Batman Begins: The Thread

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Pete will know.

No not that one either Andrew :(

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Tim Booth from James?

Confirmed: Yes, Tim Booth from James as Mr Zsaz!

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Stepmom would have been a much better film with vampires.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link

This is reminding me of when my family went to see "Mission: Impossible" during the weekend of my brother's graduation from law school. He had been partying like a fiend right up until graduation so he passed out relatively early in the movie but didn't realize it, prompting him to say "That movie made no sense! I mean, one second they're in Prague, then suddenly Tom Cruise is hanging from the ceiling in some random room with all of these extra characters who've never been introduced! What the hell were they thinking?" I didn't even like the movie but SERIOUSLY NOW, how is what he said in any way sensible or credible? Why shouldn't I make just as much fun of you for your ill-informed, incomplete take on the movie as I did him?

(xpost: ... "Queen of the Damned"? Hahahaha.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link

haha Dan I'd love a good DePalma action scene in any context. and what did I say that resembles "all of a sudden all this shit had changed! bad movie!"?

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Tom, did this flick star Alyssa Milano?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I blinked and missed Mr. Zsaz.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

!!!

Also I love IMDB so much: all 15 films with vampire-lesbian as a plot keyword

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I caught Mr. Zsasz!

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link

BTW if Miccio had posted saying "I walked out halfway through, it was shit and here's why" would people still complain?

Well, yes. See above:

I have a gigantic list of mean things to insinuate about people who didn't like this movie that I might get around to posting after lunchtime. So far this is easily my movie of the year.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I just saw a late night post-show screening of this. I was hit in the head with a blunt object repeatedly and fell unconscious multiple times, but from what I saw I have a cheese monkey AIauslsdkau aisdofa7ea890uafk;j dsjklfffffffffffffffffffff

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh bless you Hammer Studios.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:23 (eighteen years ago) link

you guys are humorless Batman fans.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Hahahaha!

My unreasoning ardor aside, the thing I'm reacting to here is the idea that if you only watch part of something in an altered state, your opinion on it is just as valid as someone who watched the entire thing sober. That particular flavor of egomania really, really, really irks me (largely because I am prone towards displaying it and therefore seek to crush it in myself and wherever I perceive it).

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Alyssa Milano AND Martin Kemp?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

(xpost: And I'm not even a Batman fan so bark up another tree, dude.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Tho I can't forgive them for this one really awful Christopher Lee mid-70s Dracula flick (on American Movie Classics, natch) where a priest gets killed by being beat about the face w/ a rubber bat. Also, despite allusions to cleavage, NOTHING AT ALL. I think Dracula dies of prostate cancer. Weak.

Also, I would LOVE to know where one can glean any humorlessness from my posts. Do I need to wear a clown nose on my wang to get roffles?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes this was it!

http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0066518/

xpost I think the critical line "If this superhero blockbuster was any good I wouldn't need to watch the entire thing sober" is a valid one! If very Miccio-ish.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I am a fan of the humorless Batman, yes.

I am not a humorless person who is a fan of Batman.

And to demostrate that I have a sense of humor, allow me to cut and paste the entire contents of a joke-of-the-day mailing list that I have been receiving for 4 years in my next several posts...

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I am capable of Micciosity.

x-post

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I blinked and missed Mr. Zsasz.

He's the guy that Dr. Crane is defending in his first scene, and the one that Batman swoops on when they're all menacing Katie Holmes near the end.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link

...and so the penguin says to the mechanic, "No! No, it's just ice cream!"

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

ROY WARD BAKER! A man among men among Swedish lipstick lesbians.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, Dan, wouldn't the egomania be if I DIDN'T acknowledge my altered state rather than sharing it with you so you can take my comments with a grain of salt and some good humor? "dude, see it sober" makes a lot more sense of a response if you're a fan than "HOW DARE YOU"

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Titanic 2000! (made in 1999)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Yay! High school debate time!

Dude, see it sober, and know when to stay down.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually I think it was Lust For A Vampire which was a sort of sequel to The Vampire Lovers. No Roy Ward action but I remember Ralph Bates and no Peter Cushing.

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Misty Mundae to thread.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link

BTW, kudos to TOMBOT for hitting on "Dude, see it sober." about 20 posts before everyone.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Though there is no state of physical, mental and spiritual purity I could achieve that would make me like the new Batmobile.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Have you never actually been teased before, Anthony? Or did you forget that I am a harsh mistressmaster?

The Ghost of The Moon (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Damn internet with the lack of inflections and stuff, use winkies next time, I'm fragile.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link

seriously that thing is the TurdTank.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:51 (eighteen years ago) link

If blood will flow when fresh and steel are one
Drying in the colour of the evening sun
Tomorrow's rain will wash the stains away
But something in our minds will always stay
Perhaps this final act was meant
To clinch a lifetime's argument
That nothing comes from violence and nothing ever could
For all those born beneath an angry star
Lest we forget how fragile we are

On and on the rain will fall
Like tears from a star like tears from a star
On and on the rain will say
How fragile we are how fragile we are

On and on the rain will fall
Like tears from a star like tears from a star
On and on the rain will say
How fragile we are how fragile we are
How fragile we are how fragile we are

The Ghost of STING (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Russians can have babies, too!

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

AM, store these in your browser cache for the next time:

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David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Re: the Burton Batflick - "I can't believe they'd try to invalidate Adam West like that."

Yeah, wtf, I said this at the time as well! I was 7.


Tom, have you seen the second part of that trilogy, Lust For A Vampire? The girl who plays Carmilla in it is so, so hot!

BARMS, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.theasylum.cc/Images/vvz_dvd3.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

It turns out I have seen it!

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Miccio, your review is OTM. You missed the best parts (the scarecrow) but it's not like those scenes redeem all of the major flaws in the parts you did watch.

The opinion of a half-awake drunk >>> the opinion of someone who doesn't like the Hunger.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Walter's vagina, meet sand. Sand, meet walter's vagina. Oh, you already know each other?

The Ghost of Dan Pot (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link

So I saw it last night and it's pretty dang good, but it's basically the Lamont Cranston/The Shadow story with different names.

And will there be a "delete Katie Holmes" option on the DVD? Seriously, whenever she was on screen it felt liked someone hooked up a 16-ton weight to the movie and threw it off a bridge.

Liam Neeson should play more bad guys.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Are the people on this thread who are saying they couldn't follow the action sequences in this film or Gladiator being serious or are they exagerrating for some unknown effect? Cos if you're being serious get one fucking Ritalin. Either that or I have the amazing X-power of being able to pay attention carefully.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

THANK YOU ALLY

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Also OTM about Christian Bale's weight gain NOT necessarily being steroid-induced, 50-75 of those claimed 100lbs gained would just be gaining his normal body weight back from The Machinist.

ET OTM about Liam Neeson.

Dan OTM about backstory et al.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I've already put it on the record that I really, really disliked the 1989 Batman and that the reason I enjoyed the next one was because of Michelle Pfeiffer. I guess I like my superheroes emo and faux-realistic.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link

So I saw it last night and it's pretty dang good, but it's basically the Lamont Cranston/The Shadow story with different names.

Well, yeah. Batman was a total riff on The Shadow & like-minded pulp characters. To wit:

"[Bob] Kane and [Bill] Finger got together and brainstormed the new character DC wanted. Kane suggested a pair of bat-style wings, which he'd doodled in sketchbooks for years. Finger proposed the wings be turned into a more practical, yet uniquely scalloped cape, then added a triangular motif to the costume, including triangular "fins" protruding from Batman's gloves, and pointy bat ears. In formulating the basic story line, the two drew upon favorite films (such as The Bat Whispers, in which a detective prowls the night as a killer wearing an ungainly bat-mask); novels (such as Johnston McCulley's All-Story Weekly, in which the rich playboy Zorro becomes an avenger by night, and the various books featuring Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes, who utilized deductive reasoning to solve crimes); and radio programs (such as The Shadow, in which wealthy playboy Lamont Cranston used his mastery of disguise to strike fear in the hearts of criminals)."

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a gigantic list of mean things to insinuate about people who didn't like this movie that I might get around to posting after lunchtime. So far this is easily my movie of the year.

Still waiting on this list, as it applies to me.

the thing I'm reacting to here is the idea that if you only watch part of something in an altered state, your opinion on it is just as valid as someone who watched the entire thing sober.

Incidentally, I consider watching it in IMAX to be tantamount to an unplesant altered state. That's why I'm still willing to hold out "final" judgement on, if nothing else, the "coherence" of the action sequences, until I see it in a realistic format. (Though I'm guessing the overall emo dourness of the film is probably just as overbearing in 35mm.)

(xx-post d'oh, beaten to the emo-labelling punch!)

Eric H: not a troll, with one exception (Eric H.), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Dan, you have me giggling like the Riddler.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link


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