Wes Anderson's The Grand Budapest Hotel

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well that kind of "intentional stiltedness" can be found in some or many films by lots of filmmakers, Kubrick, Fassbender, Demy, Jerry Lewis (who had a mammoth cutaway set in The Ladies Man that WA has somewhat aped a couple times, esp the Aquatic sub).

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, sometimes I'm really into that tableau framing, certainly when it lends the material some weight.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link

Morbius otm re: precedents for this kind of acting/line readings in film. Its a technique that serves to sort of give equal weight to everything going on in the film; rather than priveleging the actors and the capital-A Acting they are doing as the central thing attracting the viewer's attention, it brings all the other elements (the design, the costuming, the editing, the sdtk, etc. - all the highly stylized elements WA clearly spends a lot of time on) into sharper relief.

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link

it can produce a heightened air of unreality in the proceedings but idk "realism" is overrated

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link

wes, please stop

― 乒乓, Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:33 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so far four people in my fb timeline have shared this piece of garbage, guy has sucked so hard since he lost his writing partner owen wilson

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link

? owen's been in all his movies except maybe MK (can't remember)

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

maybe owen just doesn't want to write anymore

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

WRITING PARTNER

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

amusing myself w/ picturing Anderson's opening sequence in the Korova Milkbar

OW hasn't had a writing credit since Tenenbaums, and icey is high per usual

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

you would have to be high to enjoy any of his post tenebaums movies folks

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link

don't mind if I do!

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link

iirc tho i saw the life aquatic high and it was still dumb as hell

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link

many xposts

morbs - totally agree that other people have done "intentionally stilted" and unreal, to me it feels like it's working against him at this point. But generally, I like the look and style of Anderson movies - not a huge sticking point for me.

I don't think the acting in the new Anderson movies is child-like because it's flat exactly - more because it just doesn't feel believable, sounds like people reading lines. lines written to sound like written lines.

anyway - I was asking what you guys like, didn't really want to argue about everything I don't like

brio, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link

and here we are going over the auteur's entire oeuvre for the tenth time 5 months before the film comes out. bye til March.

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link

all these stiled manchildern, now w added stiled scripts

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link

Can we talk about how Anderson has specially tailored ill-fitting suits, a la Gene Kelly's shirts?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link

a la pee wee herman

乒乓, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link

Surprised Reubens hasn't made it to a Anderson movie, tbh.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link

guy has sucked so hard since he lost his writing partner owen wilson

― lag∞n, Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:27 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

hah for some reason i had htought darjeeling limited was co-wrote by o.w. - but no, it's fucking jason schwartzmann

i was going to say, maybe noah baumbach is a salve but he has a credit in the life aquatic

apparently this guy now has two writing credits http://i.imgur.com/AApvrJ6.jpg

乒乓, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/2zXwfIx.jpg

乒乓, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

That guy looks like he has murder credits.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

His eyebrows look like they got pissed off at each other and started to fight.

brio, Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link

Perpetually smelling a bad odor.

Aimless, Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link

the scent of CQ

brio, Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link

There's something about Anderson that reminds me of Joseph Cornell but I can't put my finger on it

I can't keep up, I can't keep up, I can't keep up (calstars), Friday, 18 October 2013 00:45 (ten years ago) link

don't put wes in a box

乒乓, Friday, 18 October 2013 00:46 (ten years ago) link

i think there's been a steady downward trend after life aquatic, which i like a great deal, but i still have a lot of time for wes anderson. i think the issue is that he stopped being able to tell convincing stories about sympathetic yet insufferable Romantics whose dreams somehow still survive their brutal conflicts with reality.

Treeship, Friday, 18 October 2013 01:14 (ten years ago) link

swap "convincing" in my previous post for "compelling"

Treeship, Friday, 18 October 2013 01:15 (ten years ago) link

i think there's been a steady downward trend after life aquatic, which i like a great deal, but i still have a lot of time for wes anderson. i think the issue is that he stopped being able to tell convincing stories about sympathetic yet insufferable Romantics whose dreams somehow still survive their brutal conflicts with reality.

Fantastic Mr. Fox does all this

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 01:17 (ten years ago) link

he stopped being able to tell stories, yes

lag∞n, Friday, 18 October 2013 01:18 (ten years ago) link

the newer ones just seem more emotionally dead than something like rushmore. there is a lot of desperation in a character like max fischer.

Treeship, Friday, 18 October 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link

yeah the characters too

lag∞n, Friday, 18 October 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link

I liked moonrise kingdom, the end was dumb tho

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 October 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link

like in royal tenenbros the characters are so charismatic and theyve got heart, then putting them in this weird fetishistic dollhouse environment just animates the whole thing

lag∞n, Friday, 18 October 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link

I'm mixed on everything between Rushmore and Fox, but I found Moonrise Kingdom very moving with a lot of character "depth" going on, with both the adults and kids. but i only came to this conclusion after becoming sort of obsessed with the blu-ray and watching it about 5 times. it's a masterpiece, imo.

ryan, Friday, 18 October 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link

moonrise kingdom is the only one i havet seen, i watched the first few mins and just couldnt do it

lag∞n, Friday, 18 October 2013 01:27 (ten years ago) link

fmf was ok for a kids movie but p hokey, dont get why everyone was so pumped abt it, maybe cause we all want this dude to be good again so bad

lag∞n, Friday, 18 October 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link

it was the cloon

乒乓, Friday, 18 October 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link

cloon is a cool dude

lag∞n, Friday, 18 October 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link

Love the coloring work in the trailer, and yeah naturalism a la Vie d'Adele can got to bed, i love this kind of artificiality.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 18 October 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link

go to bed. ha.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 18 October 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSEzGDzZ1dY

乒乓, Monday, 4 November 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link

fmf was ok for a kids movie but p hokey

wtf @ this fresh madness

midwife christless (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 11:44 (ten years ago) link

http://youtu.be/yWnKRJ4c8xY

Dan I., Thursday, 14 November 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link

i thought that would automatically
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWnKRJ4c8xY

Dan I., Thursday, 14 November 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link

anyway, i suspect this sort of thing might look better when his career is over. it's not quite the same, but i can imagine someone thinking "ugh another Hitchcock thriller?"

otm, except comparing WA to Hitchcock in any way is probably going to ruffle a few feathers.

New one looks cool, last one was fun and great. Yeah i think in 15 or 20 years when there is this body of work it will be easier to look through it and compare stuff and see some kind of development.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 November 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link

http://rymimg.com/lk/f/l/0a44ad03d95fd78484008ca4a665af66/3258002.jpg

Btw i can't find any clips online but I have this record and it is pretty much ground zero for WA-style chamber pop 60s harpsichord instrumental stuff like Mothersbaugh turns out.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 November 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

initial Berlin reviews

The two primary strengths... are, first, Fiennes’s utterly delightful performance as the non-flamboyantly gay concierge who busies himself with the hotel, Romantic poetry and elderly, rich, insecure and blond women, and second, the set design (and yes, costumes and makeup as well, but primarily the sets). Gustave is a surprisingly complex man, and I say “surprisingly” because everyone else around him, even, to an extent, young Zero, is essentially a cartoon, albeit in the best way, comic sketches straight, as they used to say, out of Central Casting.

As for the sets, the hotel, of course, is the star (though we do visit a bakery, a prison, a museum), both in its heyday, i.e., the period of the equally star-studded Grand Hotel (1932), and in the '80s... Given the enduring nostalgia for the rapidly disappearing monuments of Cold War-era communist architecture and design, such as Berlin’s now long-gone Palast der Republik, it’s hardly surprising that Anderson would eventually pick up on it. He, production designer Adam Stockhausen and art director Stephan O. Gessler have done more than dabble here; the blocky fonts and sleek paneling beneath a sheen of oranges and browns brought to the fading grandeur of the hotel by the communists are just as aesthetically intriguing, albeit more subtly, as the 30s-era pink pastry mit Sahne interiors.

http://www.fandor.com/keyframe/daily-berlinale-2014-diary-1

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 February 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link

intriguing, didnt realize any of it took place in the 80s. and as a fan of 80s soviet resort design i am now extremely interested!

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 6 February 2014 22:41 (ten years ago) link

You see, there are still faint glimmers of civilization left in this barbaric slaughterhouse that was once known as humanity. Indeed that's what we provide in our own modest, humble, insignificant... oh, fuck it.

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 November 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

The line about how Gustav's age ended before he was even born but that he "certainly maintained the illusion with remarkable grace" seems more than a little self-referential/on-the-nose re: Anderson.

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 November 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

Keep your hands off my lobby boy!

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 21:56 (two months ago) link

My favorite Ralph Fiennes performance, and he's wonderful in Anderson's Roald Dahl shorts. (Great in Schindler's List and Spider too, but Grand Budapest Hotel is the one I'll be watching most.)

birdistheword, Friday, 9 February 2024 07:25 (two months ago) link


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