Has there been a thread about John Martyn?

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middle of the day and the whole town looks pissed

gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

listening to 1987's piece by piece for the first time, thought i was in for an ugly horror show after the first track but some of it is very nice. even if at points it does sound like john has wandered in on some bloke playing around with a dx7 and decided to sing along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A903GGnzgyw

Merdeyeux, Monday, 12 May 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

I still haven't warmed to this guy at all. Glorious Fool still sounds wispy.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link

his best work is with phil collins tbh

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 9 June 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link

Echoplex-era FTW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wJevkA7_O4

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 9 June 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

one or two songs on the new Slowdive really sound like him

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 12 June 2017 09:16 (six years ago) link

You need to listen to "One World", Alfred

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Monday, 12 June 2017 09:36 (six years ago) link

omg what alfred

Tim F, Monday, 12 June 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link

not even "small hours"?

Tim F, Monday, 12 June 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link

One World is revelatory

ciderpress, Monday, 12 June 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link

Gonna give this revelatory album a spin in a few minutes. Stay tuned!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 June 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link

his 70s solo albums are really where it's at -- Bless the Weather - Solid Air - Inside Out - Sunday's Child - One World. If those don't do it for ya, he's probably not for you.

tylerw, Monday, 12 June 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link

Solid Air and One World are holy. Can't imagine anyone not falling for the former in particular.
"Small Hours" is one his most gorgeous moments but may I dare saying that Robert Smith's cover of a few years back might even top it.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 12 June 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

The small bit of vocals in small hours is the best thing ever

Heez, Monday, 12 June 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

he is really great

bless the weather has the field beat for worst cover/best album
maybe some manuel gottsching/ashra competition but it's a contender at least

although i do not like sugar lump

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 12 June 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

there is probably a thread for that

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 12 June 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

thread for not liking sugar lump

or at night (Jon not Jon), Monday, 12 June 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link

i learned last night that my friend's dad, an older musician, knew martyn, anne briggs and bert jansch o_O

or at night (Jon not Jon), Monday, 12 June 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

Glorious Fool still sounds wispy.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2017

Is this the first John Martyn album you've tried? Its an odd choice.

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Monday, 12 June 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link

I mostly love 'Bless the Weather', it was the first JM album that clicked with me but, yeah, "Sugar Lump" and the artwork are not so great.

michaellambert, Monday, 12 June 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

I sympathise with Alfred. On paper, Martyn is exactly my sort of thing, but he just hasn't clicked with me. I own Solid Air and Stormbringer

Duke, Monday, 12 June 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

xxpost Jon, please grill your friend's father (for info, not for lunch)! Haven't really followed him, but agree that Solid Air and One World should convert the infidels if anything will. Also maybe Road To Ruin, with aforementioned wife Beverly---who also sounds good on John Renbourn's early 60s gypsy stash, Attic Tapes, finally out a couple years ago, and I carried on about it on the post-Fahey thread---ditto about the very recent album Renbourn's ancient colleague Wizz Jones did with fellow vet Pete Berryman and son Simeon Jones. The most specific Martyn connection I'm aware of on that 'un is a song inspired by the (or a) night Jones and and JM found themselves in deep freezing water.

dow, Monday, 12 June 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link

the tune "give us a ring" is my favorite john & bev track. the rest are kind of dull imo! i love that song though.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 12 June 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

i'm a pretty big fan of "John the Baptist" off of Stormbringer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE_nbrW5cMU

tylerw, Monday, 12 June 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link

Is this the first John Martyn album you've tried? Its an odd choice.

― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B)

I own Inside Out and Well Kept Secret.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 June 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

It's a sweet little mystery

Heez, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 02:56 (six years ago) link

hello! where exactly should one begin with john martyn?

joshywinty (josh), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 03:02 (six years ago) link

I started with "Road To Ruin" then went to "One World" and then I was hooked forever. Love him.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link

I like Bless the Weather, Solid Air, Inside Out, Live At Leeds, One World and the solo with Echoplex Battle of Medway. That was recorded in 73 I think and put out about 10 years back.

Don't like his treatment of Beverly.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 06:53 (six years ago) link

"Musically it was just dreadful. It was appalling at that point. It was dominated by real second-ratedness. All the great Sixties heroes had disintegrated into drugs or to nothing. I stopped listening to English music, except for John Martyn who would bring out a good album every year in that period." - Tony Wilson on the years before punk, quoted in John Robb's Punk Rock: An Oral History.

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 08:02 (six years ago) link

I'd add Grace and Danger to Stevolende's list. Sweet Little Mysteries: The Island Anthology is a good primer.

heaven parker (anagram), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 08:13 (six years ago) link

the tune "give us a ring" is my favorite john & bev track. the rest are kind of dull imo! i love that song though.

Written by Paul Wheeler for Nick Drake, iirc. It would fit quite well into Bryter Layter.

Can I just put in a word here for Oscar Jerome, who has a SE London John Martyn vibe going:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04bTf2PbMqY

mahb, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 08:55 (six years ago) link

Bless the Weather and Solid Air are probably the best intros but One World is his masterpiece

Number None, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 09:26 (six years ago) link

xp - huh! did not know that. might explain why i like that song better.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

listened to One World this morning -- what a weird, brilliant record.

tylerw, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link

I swear by everything from London Conversation through One World.

Solid Air was my first record of his and I can't imagine a better introduction.

I've come to appreciate Live at Leeds (in both incarnations) and Inside Out the most out of all that stuff, but in that period I mentioned above, he put down one of the most consistent runs in recorded music, I'd reckon.

And he's clearly been hugely influential.

Austin, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

...on John Bonnamossa

brimstead, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link

sorry... the acoustic portion of the JB show I encountered a few years back REALLY made me think of john martyn

brimstead, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link

Who's John Bonnamossa?

Austin, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

My favorite Martyn performance bar none:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&noapp=1&v=lE6i_qnoAgo

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 10 July 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link

My favourite live performance ever I think

Number None, Monday, 10 July 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link

that guitar tone is extremely metal

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 10 July 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

love it

down that brown path (Spottie), Monday, 10 July 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDMWVr9k5R8

Number None, Sunday, 15 December 2019 11:48 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Uncle.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 February 2020 18:27 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYLVM560Fok

tylerw, Friday, 21 February 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link

One World got me in the last week of December.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 February 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link

I love that Lester Bangs story about being on a music biz junket to Jamaica in the mid-70s, and while the other hacks are hanging round the pool smoking weed at the Holiday Inn, he gets a ride into Kingston -- against everyone's advice -- to go record shopping. After an hour or two he goes for a drink and is surprised to see another long-haired, bearded white guy sitting at the corner of the bar, only to find it's John Martyn.

I've prob. misremembered the details, but it just says a lot about what I love about JM; that he was from this folky background, but so hip -- for want of a better word -- to what was going on in jazz, reggae, dub, ambient etc. Not sure who/what would be the equivalent these days.

fetter, Friday, 21 February 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link

It says a lot about how he liked a bevvy too.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Friday, 21 February 2020 21:25 (four years ago) link


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