i already stopped drinking soda, eating sweets and pastries, etc. so that's been good. but now i should probably do more at some point.
― markers, Monday, October 14, 2013 10:31 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
q is what have you replaced them with?
it's a great first step tho
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 02:37 (ten years ago) link
the sugar is def a huge thing
― markers, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 02:37 (ten years ago) link
xpost
i can help., whatcha need markers.
― homosexual II, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 02:56 (ten years ago) link
so i have water, seltzer, and orange juice. i've had a little decaf tea too. not too bad. on the eating side, i do have some good things, like oatmeal, some fruit, and other shit too, but as you can maybe tell it's kind of not a perfectly regular thing yet. like, tonight i ate tons of garbage. a lot of ruffles. some fries from burger king. oh, i have yogurt. so there's that! but it's this mixture now of this super salty bad shit and then healthy stuff too. i should work in the direction of lessening the amount of the former that i ate.
― markers, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 05:58 (ten years ago) link
eat, rather.
more than once i've thought of just cutting out all the bad stuff, but that hasn't worked yet. i doubt i've tried very hard tho
― markers, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 05:59 (ten years ago) link
i think gradual is ok! you have to experiment to figure out what keeps you satisfied--it's not going to be perfect. oatmeal, i tried that shit for years but it's not for me,
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link
markers, in terms of 'sugar', what you want to do is keep your glycemic index (GI) levels 'flat', meaning no real lows or real highs a lot.
There are different paths that lead to that point. If gradually cutting stuff out works for you, continue on that.
But just so you know, most packaged drinks (unless it's black coffee) will have 'sugar' your body does not need.
Pure fruit extracts are okay, but think of it this way: would you really down 10 oranges in one sitting? The point is there are too many fruits in a cup of fruit extract and this can mess with your GI levels, as well.
I'll tell you my approach based on some scientific data which can be interpreted different ways, but I'll tell you how I interpret it.
First of all, I am not a biologist or a physiologist, so if someone is more aware of the intricacies of the following process, please correct me if I am wrong.
I'm going from memory, but fruit extract only contains the juice which after undergoing this process, is highly hydrolyzed. This means that it is digested and goes into your blood stream faster. When you eat fruit whole, it isn't as hydrolyzed and the rest of its parts help slow down digestion and decrease the speed at which it is 'released'.
So, juice (fruit extract) is like throwing a lot of sugar into your body fast, while eating a fruit is slowly releasing that sugar.
― c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link
hi cutty
― ṿῗᾄǤℝᾄ (am0n), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link
Yep, cut out the soda. Whether its the fructose in HFCS or the phosphate additives, its not good news. In general, it doesn't seem a good idea to drink your calories (whether soda, milk, juice, or alcohol).
I hydrate with a couple cups of unsweetened black coffee at dawn, a pot of green tea (with a squeeze of lemon juice) in the afternoon, and hibiscus tea (brewed from flor de jamaica) after dinner. All are well documented health foods, even the coffee.
― جهاد النكاح (Sanpaku), Thursday, 17 October 2013 03:56 (ten years ago) link
oh wait please tell me more about the health benefits of jamaica tea; I like that stuff a lot (though I do sweeten it with sugar).
― quincie, Thursday, 17 October 2013 05:11 (ten years ago) link
also is jamaica really different from hibiscus or is it the same damn flower?
Same flower - I just wanted to point out that there were alternatives to Red Zinger tea in the latin groceries. You can eat the petals after a brew, too.
Aside from having pretty much the highest antioxidant content of any herbal tea, hibiscus tea is notably effective in management of high blood pressure, might be neuroprotective, and inhibits angiogenesis in incipient cancers.
― جهاد النكاح (Sanpaku), Thursday, 17 October 2013 05:27 (ten years ago) link
Cool, thanks! I'll pick some up today. How do you brew yours?
― quincie, Thursday, 17 October 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
I love jamaica, which by me is labeled "sorrel." I drop one or two blossoms into a pint glass with hot water and sometimes a peppermint teabag, add honey, drink at night. I think it might be a diuretic, although when you drink tea by the pint it's hard to tell exactly which of those things is making you have to pee at 6am.
― Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Thursday, 17 October 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link
I look forward to drinking it hot! For now, however, I must focus on iced because otherwise I will die of excessive heat, both internal and externally-produced!
My older lady friend's #1 protip for managing hormonal heat problems is to always carry a fan. I need a fan!
― quincie, Thursday, 17 October 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link
Basically make it with hot water and then refrigerate! Personally I'd stir some honey in while it was still hot but maybe you'll like it unsweetened.
― Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Thursday, 17 October 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
Nah, I need some sugar--but not as much sugar as your typical Mexican jugo vendor has incorporated.
― quincie, Thursday, 17 October 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link
Has the big honey industry scam been discussed on IL Xor yet?
The nutrition gang here seems to be quite small.
― c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 17 October 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
are you talking about funny honey?
― how's life, Thursday, 17 October 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link
that's it, ya
― c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link
Have been moving towards eating a low GI diet for the past week or so, mostly because I want my body to use fat more efficiently as a fuel. This has been hard cos I'm someone that's used to living on bread and potatoes the whole time, I probably ate about one loaf of bread a day and I'm trying to replace that with more beans/nuts/fruit instead. Have to say I feel terrible at the moment, my energy levels are just so wiped out, my brain is shot and I'm slurring my words like a drunkard the whole time. Is this perpetually drained state a common thing? I thought it might be due to something else like overexercising, but yesterday I lapsed and had a really sugary flapjack and within a minute I felt fantastic and back to my usual self. Guessing that the depleted energy is probably just my brain telling me that I'm tired just so it gets to have all the glycogen for itself and I'm sure I'll adjust in time, but holy shit, this is grim.
― john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 12 June 2014 13:04 (nine years ago) link
bread lovely bread :(
― john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 12 June 2014 13:05 (nine years ago) link
you need to add more fat to your diet to get through that low carb flu stage. After a 10 days or so you will start to feel better.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 12 June 2014 13:12 (nine years ago) link
yeah, my nut consumption has gone through the roof and is costing me a small fortune
― john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 12 June 2014 13:21 (nine years ago) link
you have to just sort of power though it until your body adapts but it's tough, especially if you are getting a good amount of exercise in. i drank a lot of bulletproof coffee and it helped. http://www.bulletproofexec.com/bulletproof-coffee-recipe/
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 12 June 2014 13:37 (nine years ago) link
prbly gonna give that a miss but thanks anyhow!
― john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 12 June 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link
is there a current nutrition nazi thread?
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 25 September 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link
i don't think so
― call all destroyer, Friday, 25 September 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link
i ate a lot of kale this summer and im never gonna die
― johnny crunch, Friday, 25 September 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link
now i cant remember what i was gonna ask!
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Monday, 28 September 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link
Seems silly to start a 2015 thread for just the month of gluttony, so let's just run this one out OK
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 6 December 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link
I'm going to Portugal and I'm going to learn to love tinned sardines and I'm going to bring them back and actually eat them this time. Last time sardines were a thing around ILX, I bought probably seven tins of highly recommended brands and never ever opened even one. And then I moved and they. . . did not.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 6 December 2015 21:58 (eight years ago) link
Can we all just admit that quinoa is really not that delicious.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 6 December 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link
Cauliflower was the new kale, what is the new cauliflower?
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 6 December 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link
lol quincie I did the same thing re sardines
i was too scared
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 December 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link
quinoa tastes so weird & earthy...i dont like it unless it's bumped to the max with big flavors/spices
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 December 2015 22:22 (eight years ago) link
also i learned the hard way that red quinoa gives me horrible bowel cramps :(
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 December 2015 22:23 (eight years ago) link
I was in G on 14th street waiting for my sandwich order and this douche comes in and starts bitching loudly about grit in his "KI-NO-NA." Front of house is completely at a loss until the manager comes over, apologizes, and gives the guy basically a free meal. Now I get to spend the rest of my life thinking of that douchebad everytime I see the word quinoa. KINONA. KINONA.
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 6 December 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link
I can see where people might get KWEE-NOH-AH, but KI-NO-NA?
I'm having cauliflower tonight, but I'm making it with cream. And a steak.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 6 December 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link
Every dish I've tried with quinoa would be better with bulgur wheat. Chalk the quinoa phenomenon to unfounded protein anxiety.
The research circles I'm following bifurcate into those who favor higher protein intake increase satiety and reduce obesity, and those who point out that cancer, diabetes and overall mortality are considerably lower in those who eat little complete protein (up til 65-70). In the lab, protein restriction (or just methionine restriction) accounts for most the benefits of calorie restriction on healthspan. Those who want to get sw0le and those who want to live to 120 may benefit from very different diets.
― Humean froth (Sanpaku), Sunday, 6 December 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link
maybe i could start a protein nazis 2015 thread but it's pretty much thread of getting sw0le
― #amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Sunday, 6 December 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link
how is yr sw0le quest going harbl?
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 December 2015 00:05 (eight years ago) link
i am pretty str0ng, could do better
― #amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Monday, 7 December 2015 00:19 (eight years ago) link
I like quinoa OK but it's p. bad for the planet iirc so I feel bad whenever I buy it. also I feel selfconscious abt pronouncing it "keenwa" - not sure why really - so I mostly just hope to avoid saying it out loud. have heard "kwinola" before so El Tomboto's witnessed douchebag is not alone in errant consonant insertion
PS I shouldn't really be here as I am the furthest thing from a nutrition nazi but I've got some good intentions for the new year (haw) so please do keep reviving/starting NN threads, maybe it'll help keep the pressure on
― a passing spacecadet, Monday, 7 December 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link
Sardines purchased. Sardines to go in dinner tonight. No sardine excuses.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 7 December 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link
With whole wheat pasta. Don't worry, I eat so much cheese and wine, do not actually mistake me for an NN.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 7 December 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link
I bought a selection of sardines and conservas (mussels, oysters, etc.) last week but I haven't touched them yet. I just can't figure out what to do that's meal-like.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 00:22 (eight years ago) link
im a big fan of this - http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1013094-pasta-with-sardines-bread-crumbs-and-capers
― just sayin, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 00:42 (eight years ago) link