Petition for Annoying Jews of ILX Board

really prevalent? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial#Holocaust_denial_in_the_Arab_world

i don't think any historian today wd make many claims to objectivity

well true but perhaps "presented as objective history" is quite close all the same

"the arab world" isn't the same as saying islamic society, just for starters

I was trying to be inclusive towards the persians

Maybe you can Gabbneb and Shakey Mo to post on your Annoying Jews of ILX Board

I have no memory of what prompted this

how prevalent is holocaust denial among them really

it is really prevalent

that's not the only time I ever remember him saying something vaguely anti-Jewish, fwiw

I don't really care it's just weird that gabbneb and I would ever be on the same side of anything lol

It was an hourlong programme focusing on the foundation of israel and developments since in context of a series on the history of the jews, told by a historian with a trait of personalising the subject.

Attacking him for mentioning that he thought israel had a right to exist (i suppose more correctly stating one of the justifications for same) seems to be the reaction of a viewer just waiting for the chance to jump.

Fwiw he addressed from various povs the thoughts of israelis who were uneasy about the placement of their settlements on cleared palestinian villages, israelis taking advantage of available housing on disputed expansions, interviewed ppl re the changing borders after and since 67, and there were varying degrees of doubt and belligerence throughout without much in the way of input from him.

The only person he took pains to clearly disagree with advocated (in as many words) a return to the biblical borders. Schama found it visibly difficult to engage with this guy and admitted as much in the next section where he and another guy dismissed these views as near enough lunacy.

He finished with a final piece p critical of the israeli state as is imo, but certainly not denying its right to exist nor asserting that, as an outsider, he had much right to a judgement at all.

In no way an hour of propaganda imo, he was never gonna present an arab case for redress in this series.

PICTS PLEASE

― Laurel, Tuesday, January 22, 2008

^^ far better post than this thread deserved

did anyone make reference to the canonical sunny successor post re: "annoying" ?

uh

look idk how to say this sarahell but the jews have a different canon

Didn't know about The Story of the Jews until today but found it on video and the history graduate in me had a nerdgasm finding out about the Geniza collection because omg

geniza collection is super cool - i visited the JTS archive in college and was really amazed

The bits in the archive they showed looked incredible, including the kids' doodles.

Found it on vimeo, not video, I should say.

This isn't really the thread for it I know but I just barrelled through the whole thing and I really loved it. Anyone complaining about that last episode is ridiculous, although I do recognise that I'm coming from a position that is if not in lockstep with Schama's at least close to it. Still, it's pretty damning of the settlements and, in a way, the pitfalls of nationalism (which, as is pointed out in the last three episodes, is one of the major sources of the horrors in Europe). Given that, I just can't understand someone complaining to the BBC.

Pardon me, but is this the thread where ILX gathers to annoy jews?

There should be a star beside each Jewish user's name.

― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:33 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Pardon me, but is this the thread where ILX gathers to annoy jews?

― Aimless, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 18:17 (2 hours ago) Permalink

no, you merely petition for the right to do so here

can I get a star next to my name

it'll cost ya

You gotta work for it

Please, sir! May I annoy some jews?

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Pe-ti-TIOOOOON ...PETITION!

No one gonna post Alec Guinness from that film?