Melody Maker Albums of the Year 1988

My mum likes The Pogues. ;_;

If that AR Kane album really sounds as NickB describes it then I've been missing out!

I don't think it does, but then that's just my opinion. I don't like The Pogues either but any band with Terry Woods in them can hardly be descibed as fake Oirish.

If it helps people don't think they're fake Oirish in Oirland

Did the Cardiacs make it into any critics' EOY polls ever?

The people standing next to me at The Forum last night were having an animated conversation about Cardiacs.

Mind you, it was at a Gong concert...

It was probably my ex-brother-in-law

The Pogues in precis:

hoidy hoidy hoidy hoi an a hoidy hoidy birmingham six hoidy hoi an a drunk un shite un whisky kilburn rent boy hoidy hoidy hoi

Actually, "Rum Sod" etc was the one.

I got "grace" but played it once. approx.

Although I did use "Fiesta" for the Dance Troup in Turkey, before it became ubiquitious in adland...

I'm gratified that no one is lamenting the exclusion of Rattle And Hum from this list.

(Introspective by the PSBs should have been in but they were also disliked at MM)

If I were Irish, the act mentioned on this thread I'd patriotically declare as upholding the adventurous, aesthetic spirit of the nation would be the one with Kevin Shields in it. Dingbod OTM.

Okay, I know we're just bashing the Pogues but, to clarify: is this Green Hazed Daze song I'm watching on youtube representational of the general sound etc of AR Kane, if so I like a lot.

primal scream? ; )

OK, had another look at the list OH Godddd....

I'd vote for "Life's too good".

I would be interested in crossing the road for getting a copy of "Fishermans Blues" OK? s'about it. ~Not heard it (partfrom thi singles).

If I were Irish, the act mentioned on this thread I'd patriotically declare as upholding the adventurous, aesthetic spirit of the nation would be the one with Kevin Shields in it.

That'll be the Kevin Shields who's lived in England for 20-odd years then?

and was born in NY etc etc yeah but they're IRISH, look at their NAMES

THEIR DRUMMER'S NAME i mean

...

Like Shane McGowan?

I wouldn't ever actually listen to the Pogues but their abrasive drinking songs fit with a whole lineage of pissed off hyper conservative music in Ireland. They're hardly Planxty though....

Always preferred Band of Holy Joy myself.

This is a pointless argument, MBV are Irish, The Pogues are shite, finito.

Nyah Fearties for me

Every time I see that name, I can't help but hear Vic Reeves announcing it! (Band of Holy Joy, I mean)

Nobody stays in Ireland, that's why its so romanticized, it's bloomsday so I don't mind mentioning that Joyce wrote Ulysses in Paris

right, but getting back to AR Kane...?

What did they do after AR Kane?

?

I probably didn't do a very good job of describing them BTW :o(

Did MARRS, got lots of money, bought themselves out of the 4AD contract, and went back to their high-paying day jobs probably.

And gave up music then?

Strange how Colourbox totally vanished after MARRS (predicted Dale verdict: "They were a weird lot, weren't they?").

I dunno, probably. They might be writing high-selling singles for Tracey Ullman in Japan, for all I know.

AR Kane did "i" the year after which was poppier but also brilliant (Primal Scream did an interesting cover version a couple of years later except they called it Screamadelica). Then they put out a crap third album on David Byrne's label in '94, since when nowt has been heard.

Joyce wrote Ulysses in Paris

don't think he did

But yes, to answer the question Green Hazed Daze is representative of what '69' sounds like, but there is generally more sonic fannydangle involved and definitely a heap more noise. (multiple x-posts)

Wasn't Finnegan's Wake written in Paris (and Ireland) (and everywhere else in Europe over a 20-year period)?

It certainly wasn't written in Ireland!

Mostly in Trieste and Zurich wunnit?

"Finnegan's Wake" was mostly written in Paris, I think

This is all very well, but is it worth reading?

Oh aye, it's a belter.

"Ulysses" was written in Trieste and Zurich

Someone type Finnegan's Wake into Babelfish for me please.

Dingbod, the honours. Into English, as custom demands.

It'll prolly come out like a review of the new Coldplay album

Still maintain that translating the Coldplay review into English was one of the funniest ILM posts this year.

"That poor writer's end was hastened by that same intrusive apostrophe."

A bit boring really (usually with B/fish, the more banal the source material, the more interesting its translation turns out) but here's the first bit:

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It works if you imagine Kristin Hersh singing it.

It's certainly the best description of the Fall I've ever read.

ahem-hem, re: a.r. kane dudes's post-1994 thereabouts-whereabouts: rudi tambala's released a coupla things as sufi; ayuli's made coupla as alex!; there was one song - don't recall by which - on a wire tapper comp. a few years ago.
the snippets of their stuff i've heard here&there been sometimes pretty good.

ugh someone voted the wonderstuff

Wow Marcello voted for AR Kane? I must adjust my assesment of him.

Sorry that sounds rude. I didnt have a bad assesment to begin with. But anyway.

I've had bad and good assessments of Marcello. I wouldn't be quick to pass judgement with that dude. To this day I have no idea how I stand about him. ILX might be a little more entertaining with his presence, though. He was noticeably silent on that Phil Spector thread. I somehow he'll return to ILX for awhile, if at all.

DOUBT