C/D: Prince's "Around the World in a Day"

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Classic. I don't get the dislike for the album in this thread; I would take this album over Sign O the Times or Parade anyday.

Vic Funk, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, there goes my favorite Prince album.

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Matt, I'd accept your finely argued points if the music was stronger. "Temptation" and "Paisley Park" are retreads.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

of what? SPECIFIX PLEAZE SOTO

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

"America" - sounds like "Baby I'm A Star," with unspecific lyrics. With the exception of "Sign O'The Times," I'm no fan of Prince-as-Edmund-Burke ("Ronnie, Talk To Russia"), but

"Paisley Park" - I like the calliope. Sounds too much like "Magical Mystery Tour" and "Penny Lane." He did this strawberry-lemonade and tangerine trees shit better on the next album's "Christopher Tracy's Parade" and "Life Can Be So Nice."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link

"Paisley Park" is a future-funk song and has nothing to do with drugged-out Brit-hippie music-hall wank. Listen to it again and you'll see where I'm going, even if you don't agree. You might have a point about "America" but you didn't complain when he chopped and screwed "Delirious" for "Baby I'm a Star" so you cannot complain about him rocking it up for "America."

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link

If I had to make a choice I'd take all of the best tracks from Parade ("Girls and Boys," "Kiss," "Mountains") and/or most of the tracks on Sign o' the Times in preference to Around.

Not that it's not a (really) good album.

Also, I don't think "America" is a turn away from "Reagan-is-great."

These lyrics, for instance:

Communism is just a word
But if the government turn over
It'll be the only word that's heard

That's basically "Keep Ronnie, he's better than those Russkies."

ffirehorse (firehorse), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

OTM, ffirehorse

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link

sucks to have taller siblings, but this album's got things the others don't. it's weirder, spacier, further out, totally personal, couldn't care less about pleasing outside the core fan base, which was important coming off the last album

all of which is true, and none of which has anything to do with whether the album is any good or not

"Paisley Park" is a future-funk song and has nothing to do with drugged-out Brit-hippie music-hall wank

like FUCK it doesn't

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Now, now, Matos; swearing will not help you make your point.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link

haha he's not saying that just to be nasty, he sincerely wants to fuck the taste out of your mouth

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link

CAN U RELATE?

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link

blount you're a double-drag fool

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago) link

"Housequake" had nothing to do w/JB funk
"Do Me Baby" had nothing to do w/sex
Tony M had nothing to do w/commercial desperation
etc.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Nice job taking me out of context above. My original statement was in relation to Soto saying that "Paisley Park" was a retread of "Penny Lane," which it is not. There is more psychedelic music in the world than just the Beatles, who didn't invent it anyway, ho hum, la de da. Also, nice job doing the reductio ad absurdum tango to make me look like an ass, thanks a bunch.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Tony M had nothing to do w/commercial desperation

fuck you! I had mad skillz!

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"the future" had nothing to do with guy
"delirious" had nothing to do with john candy
"venus de milo" had nothing to do with television
"take me with u" had nothing to do with sophie's choice
"money don't matter 2night" had nothing to do with eddie money
"round and round" had nothing to do with new order
"head" had nothing to do with the monkees

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

reading it in context doesn't help any, either, Matt, so if you're trying to say something more than what I quoted, you need to elaborate.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link

The beats are all wrong anyway, the Beatles were on the ones and threes, "Paisley Park" is a Sly Stone shuffle thing to my ears.

The idea of "Take Me With U" as the theme song for "Sophie's Choice" is making me really nauseous

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Matt C. and Milton P. the most on-the-money on this thread (but yeah Matt you don't have to be all anti-rockist and dog the Beatles just to defend atwiad)

All the people that diss it but shot all the people that like it the most off-the-money

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

didn't he record atwiad pretty much immediately after purple rain, like before purple rain was released even? it seems like i'd heard that

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link

here's a statement I'll regret making, later, but am only pretty much doing it for (minor) humor value.

Q. How are the Beatles like Jesus?
A. They're just all right, to me.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link

JB: yes, it's in that Alex Hahn book

MC: so is what you're saying that your not caring that much for the Beatles = that song doesn't ape them in any way? because that's an awful lot what it looks like

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link

also, when did "drugged-out Brit-hippie music-hall wank" = the Beatles exclusively? no one else said it did.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm pretty sure this was the 2nd record (after Powerslave) I was so excited about I made my mom drive me to the record store to buy it on the day it was released. I wasn't disappointed, I thought it was awesome. The only song I didn't like at the time was "Condition of the HEart", I used to fast-forward the walkman through that one (producing that squeely high-sound, but it wasn't too harsh becuz there weren't no drums on the track) but you know, I was just a kid.

Last time I played the album I loved all of it, although "Temptation" sure does sound goofy.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:08 (nineteen years ago) link

bet used to show that live clip of "america" alot

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost to Matos:

Again, I was responding to Alfred Soto talking about the Beatles.

And, again, I was only making a little joke that occured to me. ("Little" = "Microscopic") I have never heard Lennon/McCartney much in Prince's psychedelia, more like Love and Sly and Beach Boys. But hey I could be wrong, what the fuck.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

there's all of those for sure, but the Beatles are certainly in there too. anyone who's listened to classic rock radio (specifically KQRS in Mpls, which Prince listened to as a kid when it was a progressive station) knows it favors the Beatles to Love and the Beach Boys.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

well, yeah, that's true. and I'm not saying he never heard the Beatles. what I AM saying is that I never hear the specific influence of them all that much in Prince songs.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link

oh, it's there all right

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

well okay then, you're the expert

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

dude, read the Per Nilsen book--Wendy and Lisa and Alan Leeds talk about it very specifically

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link

YEAH MATT

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I kind of can't see how there isn't a heavy Lennon influence on the song "Paisley Park"; in fact, that's one of the main things that makes it so awesome.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link

i still think this album felt pretty ubiquitous when it came out, despite lack of Purple Rain-ian megahit flurry, but maybe that's just cuz I was playing it a ton. and yeah, DB otm upthread when he talks about all the other extended family things coming out at the time. like Sheila E.'s Romance 1600 came out around the same time, and it felt like an extension of this album's aesthetic; "A Love Bizarre" would have fit right in on atwiad

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I like this album, tho yeah I usually skip Condition of the Heart and find America's lyrics to be soooo silly (but what an otherwise great song!). Unjustly maligned, this one is.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

"Condition Of The Heart" is maybe in the top 25 of Prince songs.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Purple Rain : Pet Sounds :: Around the World in a Day : Smiley Smile

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

shit, matos, if I had time to read books I wouldn't be screwing around here!

and Stormy OTM about Sheila E and that's not just a reacharound

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

(That arpeggio up through a major seventh at the beginning of each verse of "COTH" = BRILLIANCE)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not as big a fan of Jamie Starr Inc. '85 as I am of '84, by a lot, but that's really a matter of degree. So is my dislike for Around the World, which isn't a terrible album by any means, but a really uneven and notably uninspired one--he's clearly reaching for what came to fruition on Parade and isn't quite there yet, whereas Parade has it ALL there.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

The only song I don't particularly like on Around The World In A Day is the title track.. but only in today's context, because it seems like a foreshadowing of Lovesexy, or the overall feel of that album, which to me symbolizes the beginning of Prince's big dip into the era of bland NPG sherbert, creatively speaking.

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I remember liking the title track's melody okay

xpost

yeah it's a mess, totally thrown off, bits of it careless, not as masterful as Parade, we know we know

you are no fun at all matos. you sound like someone complaining about bad head.

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link

though I think in the long run we're all basically in agreement, you're just being a hardass

this album came out nine months after Rain, it was like an extra, it happened so fast it didn't even feel like a followup, just a promise that he wasn't going to let the fame get to him. and the fact that it was so tossed off, personal and fans-only was a straight up relief. judging it so harshly seems like a real ROCK CRITIC thing to do, when I know you're a total hardcore fan

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

yep, you nailed me there (cough) (xpost)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

parade is awful. im sayin it. ATWIAD is very inconsistent, but has some pretty great shit on it. raspberry beret, pop life, paisley park, tambourine, the ladder, condition of the heart, title track - all really great. parade is thin, flat, and the melodies are boring. nowhere near the sonic or melodic quality of SOTT, or the earlier stuff. i mean, ok. "kiss" is a good song. but i could never get into any other songs on that whole album. so ill take half-baked over a-bad-recipe-cooked-twice.

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:08 (nineteen years ago) link

wait a second, I'm not supposed to be judgmental about musicians I like? sorry, not swallowing that one at all.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

you are no fun at all matos. you sound like someone complaining about bad head.

.....

though I think in the long run we're all basically in agreement, you're just being a hardass

Heavens, Milton! You know A LOT more about Matos than me, I guess. ;-)

donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry, not swallowing that one at all.

-- Matos-Webster Dictionary (michaelangelomato...), March 1st, 2005.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll second that - Parade has its moments (Mountain, Kiss, Christopher Tracy's Parade) but it seems kinda limpid to me. I've never really been grabbed by it. ATWIAD, on the other hand, always keeps my interest, even when its being completely fucking ridiculous.

(no one likes my Beach Boys analogy = U ALL R GAY! *choke* sob)

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link

"Temptation" is amazing, imo, always gives me chills

chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link

i'm hard-pressed to think of any song called 'temptation' that isn't awesome!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 05:11 (eleven years ago) link

I've voiced the identical sentiment about songs w/tambourines in the title!

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

five years pass...

Redirecting from this current sidebar: 'The Top' by the Cure: Classic or Dud?

imago— Definitely check out the b-sides from this album: 'She's Always In My Hair' (which is an absolutely classic song, full stop), 'Girl', and 'Hello.' There's also the twenty minute (no, really) version of 'America.'

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Saturday, 19 August 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link

Oh cool!

Yeah this was awesome. Didn't even falter in Side B, although I'm not sure the opener isn't my favourite track

imago, Saturday, 19 August 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link


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