Mercury Rev, Flaming Lips

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I think the leap Mercury Rev made with See You On The Other Side was the most astonishing. They seemed to have disappeared off the radar and I was expecting very little when I ventured out to try and find this quietly released third album. For me it's the swooning and joyous genre hopping that is this record's greatest strength. I hear a lot of it's influence in The Boo's Giant Steps and also Ladies and Gentlemen... by Spiritualised.

holojames (holojames), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Yikes, your autumn terms sound fairly horrendous. Worst that happened to me was in the summer term when some junkie stole my wallet from my room. What are the chances? A guy goes round trying doors the very moment I'd just popped out for a minute to speak to my hall neighbour!

A few weeks before the theft I went to see Mercury Rev at Aberdeen Music Hall. Levon Helm from the Band was supposed to be supporting, but in a last minute change it was the Flaming Lips. Turned out the be the day before Soft Bulletin came out. I'd only heard She Don't Use Jelly. Their version of that was incredible, a total sonic meltdown. But the Soft Bulletin stuff was amazing. Drodz on keys and guitar and his celluloid self playing drums on the back screen. Wayne banging the gong. Wonderful. The Rev were disappointing by comparison. They had some stunning moments but were a bit noodly as well. The gig ended up in the NME cos the fire alarm went off halfway through. Apparently some nutter was sitting in the bogs setting fire to toilet paper. I stood out the front. If only I'd gone behind, I could have hung out with the bands! But everyone got back in again eventually and the REv rocked it to the end. And then the next day I went down to Glasgow to see the Beasties in the round. Good times, good times. :)

Stew (stew s), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Revive!

As I go back thru the Lips' catalog in anticipation of getting Embryonic, I've been trying to give late-period Rev a shot again as well. Truth is, Deserter's Songs never got me. Honestly, I've never heard the "rural" or "Americana" in it -- outside of some of the instrumentation (musical saws, etc.), songs like "Opus 40" always just sounded like dream pop. The tunes, "Goddess on a Hiway" notwithstanding, always felt half-baked -- a song like "Holes" has a nice melody in the verse and an instrumental refrain...but that's it.

But upon further review, I should give credit where credit is due. First and foremost, the lyrics are interesting and deserve closer scrutiny. While I know everyone has done a Fridmann special since, the orchestration--particularly on All Is Dream--is pretty impressive. And though I still chafe a bit at the melody/instrumental refrain song structure in lieu of "proper" choruses (thus, my affection for "Goddess on a Hiway"), I have to admit that on songs like "The Dark Is Rising" it works pretty well. I also think they get unfair flack for The Secret Migration's launch into fairytale imagery -- it fits well w/ the dark Ichabod Crane vibe they're going for.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

first two rev albums >>>> entire flips catalogue, and i really like quite a lot of flips

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

god i have tried getting into DS so many times since it first came out, and it has just never stuck.

itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

but the soft bulletin was my freshman year in college 24/7

itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Sunday, 29 November 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link

was listening to the new Lips and hoping it kicks the ass of Rev into doing an exciting album again. I haven't even *hated* the last few of theirs, but they've certainly been on the dull side.

tylerw, Sunday, 29 November 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I like Deserter's Songs a lot, at least through "Hudson Line". But on a disk from Uncut magazine from that time there's a gorgeous version of "Holes", from the Jools Holland show---the guitar solo will break your heart.

Euler, Sunday, 29 November 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYe5Q-oMEME

Mark, Sunday, 29 November 2009 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

That's a really stunning performance. Deserters Songs is still my favourite by a long way but I really rate See You On The Other Side a lot too. This decade hasn't been too great for them, All Is Dream I loved at the time but hasn't really aged too well. I can't remember much about The Secret Migration apart from Vermillion which is one of their finest songs. The last album is the best of the three it has some really stunning moments but kind of loses it's way at the end.

The Flaming Lips really pulled it back with the new album. At War With Mystics was a classic example of an album I just loved when I first got it but after a few months I realised the songs just weren't there and I only go back to a couple of songs now and then. Vein Of Stars in particular which has one of my favourite vocals Wayne has done and they're not really a band I love for the vocals.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 29 November 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

But on a disk from Uncut magazine from that time there's a gorgeous version of "Holes", from the Jools Holland show---the guitar solo will break your heart.

You can't seriously mean that guitar solo -- I like Grasshopper's work a lot--and that's otherwise a fine performance--but that solo sounds like some kid learning the pentatonic scale.

The Flaming Lips really pulled it back with the new album. At War With Mystics was a classic example of an album I just loved when I first got it but after a few months I realised the songs just weren't there and I only go back to a couple of songs now and then. Vein Of Stars in particular which has one of my favourite vocals Wayne has done and they're not really a band I love for the vocals.

I sort of agree -- I think AWWTM works better as a piece than individually in some ways, which is a weird thing to say given that the record is a series of stylistic experiments. And yes, "Vein of Stars" is really something else.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 29 November 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I think with both of these bands, i fell in love with something early on that they progressively shed as they moved along. shed, or cloaked or mutated or evolved or whatever - whatever the word, over time i became less able to relate to their music.

this is less true of the flaming lips, as i very much enjoyed watching them grow as a band for most of the 90s, and only lost interest circa clouds taste metallic, when they finally leached the last traces of punk and rock aggression from their sound. on the other hand, i like embryonic a lot, so it may be that i'm coming back around...

with mercury rev my disengagement was a fairly straight line: i loved (and still love) yrself is steam, liked boces, and while i've enjoyed many songs since, i haven't really cared much for the albums that contained them. this isn't the band's fault, and i don't impugn the quality of their music - it's just a matter of their pursuing something that's less able to speak to me, personally.

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Sunday, 29 November 2009 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

live version of "holes" posted above is very moving, though not for the guitar solo

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Sunday, 29 November 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

The part in "holes" that kills me is that vaguely submarine-sounding synth whoosh that comes in after the line "sink like polished stones." It's not that audible on the clip upthread, but on record.. chills down the spine every time.

b thur when i peed the tree (Pillbox), Sunday, 29 November 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

ha, yeah that solo is bleak, love m rev (and that performance) tho

"I get through more mojitos.." (bear, bear, bear), Sunday, 29 November 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link

haha well I think it's a very evocative solo, if not technically anything special; its tone, in the song as played in that performance, is striking.

Euler, Monday, 30 November 2009 08:53 (fourteen years ago) link

That solo isn't a patch on the late period Louis Armstrong-a-like flugelhorn(?) solo from the album version.

ecuador_with_a_c, Monday, 30 November 2009 09:26 (fourteen years ago) link

**B**O**C**E**S**

WILLIM GARLOS CILLIAMS (stevie), Monday, 30 November 2009 09:50 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^yes

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link


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