New bohemianism: beards, pickling beets, Fleet Foxes, rye...

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The only kind of farming that's bohemian is failed farming.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know, i think going "back to the land" is something urban dwellers fantasize about? i sure do.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i've never seen anyone pickling beets. i've known people with beards all my life. my dad drank rye. so calling this a "trend" is kind of absurd to me. it's like asking about this "trend" where people get progressively older until they die.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

words i hate: zeitgeist

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

that's only one word

dan m, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

it's one of them german two-wordy words though

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

several of my friends/acquaintances seem to be on the road to being business-minded, non-industrial farmers for realz and they are not annoying bohemian losers obsessed with a trend

tho i have been known to ask them to please stfu abt farming etc, if only b/c i don't really want them to move away from town

i am way too city to go this route full-time

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

i sure do.

I think that really just means you need to get out of the city. :)

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

xp with rrrrrobyn!

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.hi-arts.co.uk/default.aspx.locid-hianewnwi.Lang-EN.htm

The Ballerina Ballroom Cinema of Dreams
Back
08 July 2008

A while ago, on an impulse, a quixotic seizure, Tilda Swinton rented a ballroom in an old Victorian stone building in Nairn in the North East of Scotland, a seaside town where Chaplin used to holiday and which has a balmy microclimate and vistas across the Moray Firth to the Black Isle, Cromarty and Sutherland.

The ballroom is called Ballerina. In the 60s and 70s Pink Floyd, The Who and Cream played there. The ballroom in nearby Elgin was called The Red Shoes.

After renting the Ballerina, Tilda emailed Mark Cousins to ask if he’d help her put on a film festival in it. And she asked her architect friend Colin Cawdor if he’d oversee the refit. As quixotic as she, they both said yes. Tilda took Mark to see the place – they were making a wee film about being 8 1/2 and falling in love with cinema – and he loved it and so, together, they dreamt up a festival of beanbags on the floor, that would run 8 1/2 days, that would be a 6 out of ten on the grunge scale, that would serve home-made cakes and fish finger sandwiches, whose tickets would be £3/£2, and that would transform the Ballerina into something like a ghost train.

caek, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm almost amazed enough by that article to start a thread.

caek, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

whereas most of the buzz I keep seeing about the back-to-the-land types of today seems to be coming from people who don't qualify for the "trend" in any way and might not even KNOW anyone who does.

I guess the thing I find most interesting about Paul's thread idea, though, is the notion that an actual "back-to-the-land" trend can also be manifested in superficial ways, like listening to Fleet Foxes or ordering rye at a trendy cocktail bar. (Although rye seems to be more like a standard hipster fetishization of old-timey things.)

jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

the quixotic seizure jumped over the lazy dog

and what, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Although rye seems to be more like a standard hipster fetishization of old-timey things.

i think people just like the way it tastes.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I think that there is a significant divide among people I know, between those who are REALLY focused on profit-driven jobs (sales, mostly) and those who are focused on other things, including non profit driven jobs, family, liesure activities, etc.

Those in the former tend to have flashier cars and wardrobes, and tend to engage in more expensive and "going out" centric activities. Those in the latter tend to cook at home more frequently, dress more for comfort than latest style, be a little less spendthrifty...

I don't know. I'm currently out of work studying to take my bar exam. So, I'm forced to be spend thrifty, I dress for comfort because the rest of my life is a ball of stress, and I cook at home because I'm always here. This all could change once I am licensed and arguing for other people for profit.

B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I would like to go back to The Land
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2323/2273787242_ea09b5338c.jpg?v=0

Euler, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Its a shame that a venerable and respected beverage like rye whiskey is pigeon-holed because its percieved as trendy.

Can't we save that lable for shit that involves fruit juices or sugar-rimmed glasses?

B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

haha yeah it's funny b/c i've been out to 'the country' a few times in the past couple months and tho i loved it, each time i felt an increased sense of alienation - because 'the country' just like the city is in fact full of annoying people despite its pastoral image. the city, or this city, seems to mitigate the annoyances, for me.

i think i am just going to leave the pickling of things up to other people btw

xpostsxposts

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Can't we save that lable for shit that involves fruit juices

me and my greyhound say fuck you!

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

standard hipster fetishization of old-timey things.

Old-timey things like chamber music?

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

like chamber pots?

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

xp My pomegranate-tini says, well excuuuuuse me.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

That's it, no more flush toilets for me, it's all about the fashion chamber pots from now on.

dan m, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't want to meet the hipster with a chamber pot fetish. christ, if you thought the Rainbo smelled bad BEFORE...

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Just kidding, I don't drink pomegranate-tinis. Unless they're half-price.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

"Pffft, yours is tin? I've got the original porcelain."

dan m, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i pee into a buffalo skin sac which i proceed to pour on the mint in m backyard. NITRATES

Will M., Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

laurel drank a pomegranate martini last week! i saw it!

bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Dan, you just don't get it: the tin sounds WARMER, more REAL.

xp: yes, and it was half-price!!

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, alright. Greyhounds, margaritas, screwdrivers and gin&juice don't implicate the trendy frufru drink label.

Neither should rye.

B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

thank you barkeep!

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Gin and juice, you say? Like, say, LIMEADE?

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

bearded hipsters running vodka lemonade stands while playing acoustic guitars

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

sounds like a bad sitcom on the cw.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I have a beard, I pickle beets (they're delicioso!), have never heard Fleet Foxes (sound like something I would hate, from what I've read), and I prefer wild turkey to rye (cue ZZ Top's Driving While Blind). I also drive a prius.

I do all of these things because they are new and hip and trendy and not because they're like fun or anything duh

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Bearded hipsters drinking gin and limeade while singing Pavement songs on a Brooklyn rooftop.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

beard also recent edition because before now I couldn't really grow one and I was home with my baby daughter for 7 weeks and thought "hey you know what fuck shaving". now I look like Captain Nemo.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Bearded hipsters drinking gin and limeade while singing Pavement songs on a Brooklyn rooftop.

that sounds pathetically similar to my early 20s.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

That sounds pathetically similar to my er........July 6th.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

i think people just like the way it tastes.

Undoubtedly, but how do you explain its recent resurgence among the young urban demographic? A lot of people suddenly decided they liked the way it tastes?

Old-timey things like chamber music?

No, more like whatever Grandpa was into: thrift-store pants from Sears and Roebuck, smoking out of pipes, Tony Bennett LPs, etc. Unless you know hipsters that are into Hadyn and Mozart.

jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Undoubtedly, but how do you explain its recent resurgence among the young urban demographic?

it's recent? like i said, i've always known rye drinkers.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I went on a date once with a young Brooklyn type who dressed like an Amish man and was an up-and-coming shaped-note composer. That guy is seriously so far ahead of the curve he might be a genius.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, you just mentioned your dad. I don't go to places like the Violet Hour or anything, but I've gotten the sense that rye is becoming trendy, and I'm assuming that's why Paul mentioned it. For instance.

jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link

i still don't even know where the violet hour is but i'm imagining i must walk past it every day coming back from the train.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Seriously though in some ways we're making a mountain out of a molehill here (on ILX? surely you jest). Everything -- EVERYTHING -- gains and loses popularity as markets change and people's tastes cycle around until most people have forgotten about something and it seems fresh to them. I don't know if it's exciting, really, I think it's just...life.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

oh fuck, i know where it is!

xpost.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

and now that i know it seems all the douchier to me.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

It's where Mod used to be. There's no sign anymore, though: I think they want to make it like a speakeasy or something.

jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

The people making pickles and raising goats etc are actually more "normal" in terms of the history of the world than we are, getting our lowest-common-denominator processed foods off of store shelves. Depending on how big a lens you use, moving OFF the land is probably the more shocking trend.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

invididuals drinks it because it tastes good. groups drink it because its trendy. /sociology 101

Granny Dainger, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link

No, I'm just being a dick

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha so am I, kinda. (Jay-Z says "wears her hair in a twist!") It's totally archaic, but I really do like the use of "wear" for styling decisions, including hair growths -- wear your jeans tight, wear your hair long, wear side-whiskers, wear a beard

nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link

wear your heart on your sleeve, wear your fingers to the bone, wear a point into the ground, wear out a welcome

rrrobyn, Friday, 18 July 2008 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i have just been french-english exchanging and in this talk often turns to discussions of the idiomatic and grammatically weird or archaic when trying to find correct translations - it is funny but also confusing because yeah maybe the wear a beard thing etc is right even if only nabisco and people in the 19thC use it

language so crazy

rrrobyn, Friday, 18 July 2008 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link

ok but if she has already put her hair in a bun she is wearing her hair in a bun.

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:36 (fifteen years ago) link


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