Does anyone know anything about Acid Reflux?

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Yeah, sugar does it to me, and alcohol. I finally kept a food journal for a few weeks, logging what I ate and when, in order to see the pattern. I never cut anything out completely, just changed when I consumed it and what with.

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

gaviscon works for a while then just exacerbates the problem. i can understand wariness of natural solutions if it's oil of hemlock & rain dances while wearing a crown of thorns but honey+vinegar, what's the problem?

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

jed, you're great.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus, CHEAP! And re honey, there's no way it can possibly hurt if it doesn't help!

Haha, XP.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

aw Lauren x o x o

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember jed talking about this when I was suffering from third-trimester heartburn, and in desperation I tried it...with a packet of church's chicken malt vinegar I found in the break room. I didn't think it would work (because pregnancy heartburn comes from having a squished-up stomach and hormone-induced lax muscle tone in the sphincter above your stomach) but it TOTALLY DID.

Now I'm trying to figure out if my kid has reflux! he's on baby zantac but I don't much like the idea of it.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I get this pretty permanently, I don't necessarily think it's something you can "cure", it just comes and goes -- usually the less stressed I am in my life, the less I worry about it.

What has helped, though:

** I've stopped taking rinatidine (I think it's the UK version of Prilosec) and started taking acidophilus pills twice a day -- the friendly bacteria -- they're good for replacing the "good" acids, like cider vinegar. Incidentally also v. helpful for candida and thrush. It's probably not as effective as prilosec, but stops me feeling like I'm a medicine jar.

** I can eat spicy foods and even drink coffee (although I use a lot of milk to cut the acidity) AND beer (! but never orange juice gah) but a slice of cake will have me gobbling the Prilosec for a couple of days afterwards.

Yeah -- it's stupid of me, but I'm just NOT willing to give up cafferine and alcohol. However, cakes/biscuits/choc/prefab sliced white bread aren't so difficult to cut down on -- and they're much worse on my reflux than booze and coffee anyway.

** Avoid citrus fruits and juices, esp. tomato, orange and the supermarket ones with added sugar. If you're bored of drinking water, pick up some sugar-free pomegranate or cranberry juice from a natural food store. (They're much tastier, too, imo.)

** Yoghurt is awesome, especially kefir or any other live bacteria-containing pot. Again, go for plain without sugar, and add your own fruity accompaniment.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

** Oh, and also, re: cider vinegar, drop a tablespoon of CV in a glass of cold water -- it can be quite stomach soothing.

** And belches! I only get a certain, froggy type of belch when my reflux is bad. When I'm not getting those belches, it's a good sign that it's getting better.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

(That said, I'm off to my local cafe now for a coffee and peanut butter bagel. So never mind.)

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

gaviscon works for a while then just exacerbates the problem.

WAH? I sure as fuck hope not! I have it again (second pregnancy). I hatehateHATE it. I've been sipping on Gaviscon like mad. :-( Just small sips really, cause I hate the taste of it. *sigh*

nathalie, Friday, 24 August 2007 09:30 (sixteen years ago) link

elevating the head of the bed is meant to help quite a lot. fuck knows how I'm supposed to do that though.

Ronan, Friday, 24 August 2007 09:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Andrews is the best, I find.

nate woolls, Friday, 24 August 2007 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

I don't have a "horrible burning" in my throat, but an annoying / scratchy tickliness for the last 8-10 weeks. ENT doctor suspects GERD and its ilk, so I have been prescribed an antibotic and a nasal spray.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 7 August 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I have to stop drinking diet dr. peppers and margaritas if I want to sleep well.

heh, I just had a Diet Dr Pepper as a caffeine substitute!

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 7 August 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

wait whats gerd

Surmounter, Thursday, 7 August 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

why did he give you a nasal spray and antibiotics for gerd?

are you sure he doesn't reckon you have allergies/sinus problems?

Ronan, Thursday, 7 August 2008 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Gastro Esophagal Reflux Disorder

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 7 August 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

And yea - antibiotics?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 7 August 2008 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

That hasn't been ruled out, Ronan.... sorry, I guess the antibiotic IS the nasal spray, the other drug is Nexium.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 7 August 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I've been sick for about 3 years with some combination of either sinus probs or gerd, never properly diagnosed, just was interested to see them connected I guess.

Ronan, Thursday, 7 August 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Ronan, did you ever try that thing with the apple cider vinegar and honey?

jed_, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I've never heard of using nasal spray for GERD. do you have a chronic cough or something?

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

No. Will an occasional stabbing pain in my throat do?

Haha, my HMO won't cover Nexium! Time for OTC; that's America, you & me.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Eh, acid reflux is the worst. one of the downsides to pregnancy for sure. I feel for you guys (who suffer from it permanently). :-(

stevienixed, Thursday, 7 August 2008 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I had this only once, it happened when I took some antibiotics before bed that didn't agree with me. woke up in the middle of the night feeling like my chest was on fire. I had it pretty bad - I seriously thought I was having a heart attack. swallowing food was so painful it nearly doubled me over. unfortunately I left for vacation to new orleans that week, so I spent several days in the food capital of the south with a painful aversion to eating anything. but big ups to the prilosec, that helped.

Edward III, Thursday, 7 August 2008 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Ronan btw you elevate the head of the bed by putting bricks under the two bedposts at the head - just a slight elevation does the trick

I still have this, it sucks, I don't take care of it unless I'm at work/on tour, the amount of health problems that start stacking up at one point if you've always treated yourself rather roughly is exactly as intense as they always said it'd be

J0hn D., Thursday, 7 August 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

see I haven't had this burning awful pain y'all are describing, but the ENT doc said this can happen w/out even noticeable heartburn.

OIn the bright side, my bed elevation was askew to begin with.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 7 August 2008 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link

No actually Jed I must give it a go. Kind of one of those things I've been meaning to try out. I've been drinking Aloe Vera juice (mixed with water or normal juice) a bit lately, that seems to have helped me feel a little better, though can't be sure.

It's weird with me, reflux seems part of other probs, I don't often get that mad painful form of it, but I do find myself swallowing mucus/acid fucking incessantly, like until my throat is just fucked. Constant frog in throat etc.

I only have two bricks is my problem for bed elevation! Where do I rob some bricks? (I also need to elevate my monitors, to avoid bass reflux affecting neighbours)

Ronan, Friday, 8 August 2008 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link

fuck a gerd, seriously

amateurist, Friday, 8 August 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I prefer to think of it as "the gerd." As in, "I need to be careful what I eat today. I have a touch of the gerd."

I had an attack of this yesterday and again this morning, disallowing me from finishing breakfast. Extreme, frightening pain in my neck, throat, and lower sinuses that there seems to be no stopping once it's started. Nothing to do but sit there and experience the unique sensation of my esophagus being burned away by stomach acid, as my mouth waters uncontrollably, my sinuses drip desperately, and tears roll down my face. Good times.

kenan, Monday, 21 December 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

most the meds for this are over the counter now

bnw, Monday, 21 December 2009 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link

nexium still beats all tho

Herodcare for the Unborn (J0hn D.), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I take one prilosec (otc) every morning and my heart burn is gone

born loser (CaptainLorax), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i used to get this when i was a kid/teenager. i didn't really know what it was or that i could just like take a tums and it would go away. I would just lay there awake half the night thinking i was dying.

gastro pub n' tug (carne asada), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I used to get this ALL the time. It was undoubtedly caused by the extremely poor diet during law school, the excessive consumption of beer and my smoking.

All of which have been changed, so my Acid Reflux ain't around no mo'.

Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Monday, 21 December 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

fucking hell

when will I learn not to gorge myself on Cape Verdian food the night before a concert

ALLAH! *rolls on floor* (HI DERE), Sunday, 28 March 2010 12:44 (fourteen years ago) link

A couple weeks ago I downed a humungous coffee then minutes later had this crippling tight pain all in my chest, sides, upper back - nothing helped. It eventually went away after 15 mins but came back a couple of days later for longer. I was wondering if this was anything to do with acid reflux or would I have had some pain in my throat etc? I've never really known what's meant by "heartburn".

Not the real Village People, Monday, 29 March 2010 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

FUCK THIS SHIT. I have felt like I have a piece of food stuck in my throat on and off for days, I'm burpy, bloated and feel like I ate corks. And I didnt bring any Zantac to work. :(

Wahhhhh.

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 05:03 (twelve years ago) link

I should know better than to eat large meals. It always does me in.

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 05:03 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Here we go again. Actually lately it hasnt bugged me much, but when it occasioally does, its that full on "I'm having a heart attack oh my god" stabby rocks pain. Like today. Ow.

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Monday, 8 October 2012 05:31 (eleven years ago) link

And the Zantac's doing arse all... WHYYY. God. I knew I ate too much rice.

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Monday, 8 October 2012 05:32 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

hi thread

my ENT thinks i have this so i'm going a month without eating any good food and taking prilosec every night. it seems to have gotten worse, tho i haven't gone all in on the diet at all ("i'll start tomorrow"...). still apparently the prilosec should be doing something by now. everyone else seems to take it in the morning, not sure why i'm supposed to take it at night

infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link

and i seem to have it similar to a few people here, where there's no heartburn or pain or really any symptoms other than a feeling of liquid rising in the throat. until my ENT handed me the GERD pamphlet i was certain i had been experiencing swelling. that's all it feels like. went to my GI this morning to talk about it and my enduring intestinal issues and he seemed annoyed at how often ENTs jump to GERD when there are other reasons for it. i hope he's onto something bc i don't think i'll always be able to afford pills and i also don't think it's humanly possible for me to cut out coffee. if it comes down to it i just might deal with having the frog-in-throat feeling all the time, but mention of esophageal cancer itt has me worried

infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link

afaik you are supposed to be taking it in the morning!

the late great, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

everybody's talkin about the gerd, gerd gerd gerd, gerd is the werd etc

diagnosed with gerd a week ago, have been taking prilosec since last Tuesday, and have been trying to hit the diet pretty hard wherever I can. have scaled back my coffee intake considerably, dialed back to one small single shot latte with 2% milk which I don't have til after lunch or when I finish work, instead of first thing in the morning.
prilosec seems to have kicked in now, I am finally able to sleep through the night, and I'm not feeling food-pregnant when I wake up.

timing of this whole lifestyle change was pretty terrible though -- this weekend I went to a concert and then a tailgate the following day, a weekend which would normally be wall-to-wall booze. I was unprepared, at least on Saturday night, for how much it suuuuuuuuuucked to be the person choosing to be sober when every single one of your friends is drinking. tailgating on sunday was easier, it didn't gnaw at my brain so much.

biggest downside so far (sry for tmi) - fucking prilosec made me constipated as a motherfucker. it's stressful to have to not only figure out my diet for reflux but to also figure out okay where can I add more fiber gah. hello psyllium my old friend

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 02:43 (ten years ago) link

might not be prilosec! gerd is often connected to intestinal/bowel issues (HIIIIIIIIIIIII)

^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 04:11 (ten years ago) link

ugh

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 04:49 (ten years ago) link

yeah but since I started prilosec on Tuesday and was constipated by Friday, I'm kiiinda thinking prilosec in this case

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 04:49 (ten years ago) link

might be worth it to try out zantac

^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

I took the slow-release prilosec & it was great for the 3 or 4 months or however long

but I got a bit weirded out by a lot of the things I was reading about how it can have long-term adverse affects on your stomach if you take it for too long

Now that I'm off it I'm pretty much back in gerd world...I got lazy and it flared up again recently. But now I'm torn between going back on prilosec again, or trying to ride it out with diet changes etc.

idk

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 May 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link

I was going to make a dumb joke and say that I though that this was an ILM thread.

Sorry Neanderthal, hope you feel better.

THE VEIVET UIUERABOUIU (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

Lol the capitalization made me think the same at first

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

happened again Monday morning in the middle of my sleep (for same stupid reason as before - overeating right before sleep). this time, I don't know that I was successful clearing everything (a first). i was clearing stuff from lungs all day.

had a fever of over 100 all day, no other symptoms - possibly due to dehydration, or presence of foreign material in lungs, idk. went away immediately and permanently after I got a normal night's sleep and hydrated profusely. did the usual COVID tests, not that, and today I feel normal other than occasionally coughing up residual gunk. everything I can read suggests that if my respiratory system is fine, this type of minor aspiration should clear up in a day or two rather than become pneumonia.

anybody else had this happen? naturally, in my situation, I have to make sure ER visits are truly necessary before I make them, as it would require my brother to take FMLA leave to back me up w/ the folks.

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Monday, 16 January 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link

I have never had anything quite like that or anything remotely approaching pneumonia myself. I don't know if this is your situation, but my (US HMO) healthcare provider has phone consultation and often non ER appointments available in a few days.

FWIW as embarassing as it is I do mostly sleep on a wedge anymore. Recently in another thread I was praising the effects of (non peppermint) gum and slippery elm tea, which fortunately has almost nullified any symptoms (after about 8 years)

fajita seas, Monday, 16 January 2023 22:25 (one year ago) link

I'm all better now. Definitely not eating late anymore. Yikes

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 January 2023 03:49 (one year ago) link


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