Johnny Depp: Cool or Fool?

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Best thing about "Sleepy Hollow" = SCADS AND SCADS OF BEHEADINGS

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 18:48 (twenty years ago) link

Anybody who gets Disney to let him play a pirate that aggressively swishy (hello! eyeliner! hello! holding compass like a makeup compact! hello! uberfayness!) is cool. I wouldn't do him, but I'd pay to watch Orlando Bloom do it.

Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 18:48 (twenty years ago) link

this is the rare thread where i wish mark s weren't being so glib.

Anybody who gets Disney to let him play a pirate that aggressively swishy (hello! eyeliner! hello! holding compass like a makeup compact! hello! uberfayness!) is cool

Do you mean... Jerry Bruckheimer? (Cue ghoulish circus music.)

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 18:49 (twenty years ago) link

The art direction was the best thing about Sleepy Hollow, I thought. The script really killed that movie. (WHY did they make Ichabod Crane a policeman?! WHY?!?!?!?!?!)

I really liked The Ninth Gate. "Boris Balkan" and all that.

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 18:53 (twenty years ago) link

The Ninth Gate is probably my favorite assemble-the-pieces-of-evil-hooha movie ever, but only because Pandamonium was a cartoon.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 18:57 (twenty years ago) link

Shit, I just said "evil hooha" and Dan is around.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 18:57 (twenty years ago) link

I heart you Roman Polanski.

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 18:58 (twenty years ago) link

TS: evil-hooha vs evil-chocha

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 18:58 (twenty years ago) link

Best thing about "Sleepy Hollow" = SCADS AND SCADS OF BEHEADINGS

Yeah! With the awesome neon magenta blood spurting everywhere. I mean, the autopsy scene is the funniest thing put to film. That film is awesome.

I totally love Johnny Depp and would have all of his children, robots or not. Ed Wood and Edward Scissorhands are two of my all time favorite movies. I also like Benny & Joon, fuck ya'all hataz (not that anyone's said anything about that film yet but someone WILL).

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:01 (twenty years ago) link

You've already missed out on the opportunity of having two of his children, Ally.

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:01 (twenty years ago) link

Don't rub it in!

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:02 (twenty years ago) link

Johnny Depp & Martin Landau was such a great team-up.

"You have to be double-jointed... and Hungarian!"

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:02 (twenty years ago) link

Also: "Now no one gives two fucks for Bela!"

sorry, I'll stop now

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:03 (twenty years ago) link

TS: Ally vs. Kate Moss vs. Vanessa Paradis vs. Winona Ryder vs. wait in line

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:03 (twenty years ago) link

Are you presenting that "Taking Sides" to Mr. Depp?

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

Depp has delegated to ILX the power to choose his life-mate.

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

The casting of Jeffrey Jones is fucking key too.

(x post)

(let me know what Johnny says, amateurist)

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:05 (twenty years ago) link

Dear ILX,

Here is the latest script that has been offered to me. Please inform me Classic or Dud within the next seven days.

Yours,

J. Depp

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:05 (twenty years ago) link

Can we talk about this Jeffrey Jones pedophilia scandal for a second?

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:06 (twenty years ago) link

Is it just me or does it make an awful kind of sense?

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:06 (twenty years ago) link

I'd like to take this special time to say I don't really like What's Eating Gilbert Grape?

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:07 (twenty years ago) link

Yay beheadings! And WHEN THE FUCK IS ED WOOD GOING TO BE ON DVD?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:12 (twenty years ago) link

This is as good a time as any to also point out that Andrew Farrell has suggested that the NYC get togethers be renamed "F&LNYC" instead of "FAPNYC".

http://www.monesi.com/sergio/movies/feb99/fearlasvegas3.jpg

NED DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THAT ED WOOD BULLSHIT.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:12 (twenty years ago) link

You mean about how great it is? Do go on.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

Seriously, they better put out that DVD soon. Seriously.

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

It's pretty much the best film ever made. So how come I own Plan 9 on DVD and not Ed Wood? WTF is that shit? Why do they not allow me my pleasure? Though clearly there are obv. advantages to Plan 9 such as that speech about vitamins.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:16 (twenty years ago) link

This is true indeed. *SIGH* One day.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

the title of the ed wood book on which the film was (v. loosely) based is the greatest: "nightmare of ecstasy"

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:21 (twenty years ago) link

his acting in Sleepy Hollow is just like his acting in Ed Wood which is just like Sean Penn's acting in Sweet and Low Down, i.e. Brad Pitt-style Acting-101 mannerisms that swallow the things i personally want to see from my leading man, like a will, or a vulnerability, or some kind of relaxed humanity!

i mean it's serviceable, it moves the story along, but it's totally overdetermined. this style is fine for character actors, and in fact preferable for small parts—we don't want the will, vulnerability, and relaxed humanity of the cab-driver to distract us too much from the scenic goals of our protagonist, for instance, we want him to do that cab driver thing he does so we can get on with the story—which is why I really think Depp is a very good character actor stuck inside the cheekbones of a leading man.

It was perfect for "Fear and Loathing" because Hunter S. Thompson has neither vulnerability nor humanity.

(I think Sweet and Lowdown was something of a one-off for Penn, he usually doesn't lose himself like that. I bet he shudders when he sees it.)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:23 (twenty years ago) link

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Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:25 (twenty years ago) link

Johnny Depp is a fool how sometimes lands in the control of a director capable of turning working with this foolness.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know who you are anymore, Tracer.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:28 (twenty years ago) link

Nightmare of Ecstacy is the greatest title. Hurray for oral histories.

How can you say that Ed Wood's "will" was lost in the role Tracer? That performance was all will!

But I thought Sean Penn was great in Sweet and Lowdown. I don't think that the depiction of a certain particular kind of humanity is neccessary for a movie; naturalistic acting is of course just as much of a style as Depp's mannered approach.

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

taste sensation!

Not enough people up in here are talking about his performance in Fear and Loathing which I must say was totally righteous and wonderful (as someone who's witnessed The Hunter Thompson Show firsthand). It probably helps that he actually, y'know, knows Hunter Thompson and has been around him and stuff. This is not an advantage he had making Sleepy Hollow.

Plus he's one of the only rock-stars-in-a-band where the band wasn't half-bad (although it helped that 2 of the 4 members came from Butthole Surfers).

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

(not to say there's a Hunter Thompson Show...more that the man is a show, a spectacle to behold, 24-7)

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:30 (twenty years ago) link

This is as good a time as any to also point out that Andrew Farrell has suggested that the NYC get togethers be renamed "F&LNYC" instead of "FAPNYC".

not to be a prick but I could've sworn this was my idea.

Johnny Depp is an excellent actor. He's not my favorite though. My favorite actor is R2-D2.

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:32 (twenty years ago) link

Now I want to watch Plan 9 and cannot because I am aus werk and then must go to class. SUCKS TO BE ME. "Death is even more of a shock when it comes suddenly without warning!" HAHAHAHA best movie quote ever. I really kind of wish I liked that movie ironically but I really don't. I honestly, genuinely think that Plan 9 From Outer Space is my favorite movie ever and that this is why I love Ed Wood so astronomically.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:32 (twenty years ago) link

It's a glory unto the heavens.

"Can your HEART withstand the shocking facts about...GRAVE ROBBERS FROM OUTER SPACE?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:35 (twenty years ago) link

Ed Wood was a laugh, though I admit it took me a while to get into the plot.

Still haven't seen From Hell yet, though....

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:36 (twenty years ago) link

No, your idea, Tom, was that you were some kind of incarnation of Hunter S. Thompson. Andrew then ran with it. Or he stole your idea in a bizarre identity theft worthy of a Johnny Depp film! Awesome!

Ned: Can you prove that it DIDN'T happen?!

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:37 (twenty years ago) link

I tried watching that movie (From Hell) but its visual style made my brain process it as a Canadian TV show and I fell asleep.

(x-post)

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:38 (twenty years ago) link

See, the thing about Johnny Depp is that he seems to calculatedly cool, which is, of course, only cool if you're 12 yrs old.
He hangs out with HST, he paid too many thousands of dollars for Kerouac's raincoat, he let Brando feel him up in an elevator for $12 and half a box of fig newtons. Y-A-W-N.

I feel asleep in From Hell too (at home).

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

Larry King made out with Brando on TV just because Brando asked him to, no fig newtons involved. You can't really blame Depp for that indiscretion; Brando makes everyone his bitch.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:42 (twenty years ago) link

naturalistic acting is of course just as much of a style as Depp's mannered approach

I agree, but I prefer it because I think it produces more open-ended, less determined results.

I'll admit I find Depp fascinating, because of his narcissism, which he never seems comfortable with. He goes out of his face to efface "himself" (whatever that is; if you watch an interview with him he's lost in his own haze to the point of being bad-mannered). He loads up on tics and extraordinary makeup, it's like self-flagellation. Thats why DiCaprio will never be Depp: DiCaprio is totally at ease with his own self-regard.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:53 (twenty years ago) link

Brad Pitt kind of does the same thing on a regular basis, except for when he decides to be lame and does movies like Meet Joe Black.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:02 (twenty years ago) link

Depp is a consistently entertaining, and as far as I know well aware that his looks and his ambition clash. Keanu Reeves so has pictures of him all over his bedroom.

Actually, Ally, I think I got the Tom=HST, and I certainly didn't come up with F&LNYC. It's an easy mistake to make, a simple way to tell the difference is

No Carrier Signal (afarrell), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:34 (twenty years ago) link

Well maybe this is Fight Club and you don't actually exist outside of TOm's mind, did you think of this Mr. Farrell?

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

Wait, I'M TOM'S Tyler? Jesus.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:42 (twenty years ago) link

(ok, that's unlikely, you're right, and as such I'm wrong. You can both kill me with guns next you see me)

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:46 (twenty years ago) link

Every man thinks he's Tyler. Every man is actually Jack. As long as every man gets Helena Bonham-Carter, everything works out alright.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 20:50 (twenty years ago) link

Johnny Depp fans paid $3k to unseal the court documents just to get dirt on Amber, but ended up unintentionally exposing Depp and information he tried to keep private instead. A thread 🧡πŸͺ‘ pic.twitter.com/NzH8eD1yJI

— chateau bunny (@cocainecross) July 30, 2022

groovypanda, Sunday, 31 July 2022 10:40 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

An interesting (?) resolution to this case:
- settled by Heard (she was going through the appeal process with some very high profile 1st amendment lawyers and the case was thought to be strong)
- only has to pay $1m but is free to speak ???
- the resolution threads two themes that you see in a lot of cases like this: she was being put through the ringer financially and subject to such grotesque harassment that this is the result

Amber Heard settles with Johnny Depp and speaks out: "I will not be threatened, disheartened, or dissuaded by what happened from speaking the truth. No one can and no one will take that from me. My voice forever remains the most valuable asset I have." https://t.co/m6xTr4nwJA

— Variety (@Variety) December 19, 2022



Statement from Instagram:

My heart goes out to Amber Heard as she has made the decision to settle the defamation lawsuit against her by her abusive vindictive ex-husband, Johnny Depp. He and his team used misogyny, victim blaming, and lies to further abuse her on the stand. I hope she heals from this… pic.twitter.com/DdCKpQnVSu

— 𝝠sh (@starfallgoddess) December 19, 2022

bit high, bitch (gyac), Monday, 19 December 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

Heartbreaking, the worst person you know, etc

The Sun is still calling him a violent wife-beater. #CannesYouNot pic.twitter.com/ePVgLq7CgP

— Xandra 39 (@carriecalista) May 19, 2023



Reminder that the Sun can print that cos they won a libel trial against him πŸ’†πŸ»β€β™€οΈπŸ’†πŸ»β€β™€οΈπŸ’†πŸ»β€β™€οΈ

Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Friday, 19 May 2023 17:16 (eleven months ago) link

fuck Johnny Depp

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 May 2023 19:36 (eleven months ago) link

and Cannes for that matter.

hate teh stupid 'narrative' that won out thanks to Depp's abusive legal tactics

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 May 2023 19:37 (eleven months ago) link


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