2008 Primaries Thread

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But this was at KFFC!

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

kentucky fuckin' fried chicken

elmo argonaut, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

lol even former fatso eats chicken skins

elmo argonaut, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Huckabee, looking ahead to a flotilla of southern states up for grabs on Super Tuesday, was told about the move by a reporter here in the Florida panhandle.

"I can tell you this," he said, "any Southerner knows if you don’t eat the skin don’t bother calling it fried chicken."

"So that's good. I'm glad that he did that, because that means I'm going to win Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma … all these great Southern states that understand the best part of fried chicken is the skin, if you're going to eat it that way."

Huckabee admitted that he hasn't eaten fried chicken in a while because of his weight loss program, preferring it broiled or baked instead.

And speaking of possible gaffes, a good Southerner might also dispute one of Huckabee's claims: since when is Oklahoma "a great southern state"?

...

Yeah, Huckabee's crazy. Please don't drop out, Huck.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

KFCGATE 2008

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link

hillary wishes she'd thought of this tactic first

and what, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link

'well, the people of south carolina eat a lot of fried chicken... but uh yeah obama ran a good campaign'

and what, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

the buttermilk-batter constituency

remy bean, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

it's never too late, and what

Bill: "It's quite peculiar that Obama didn't bother with the batter at Popeye's that Americans hold dear to their hearts."

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

so want squirrel zing from camp romney now

gff, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ebaseball/images/cluckulogo.jpg

daria-g, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

RIP cluck u @ nyc ;_;

elmo argonaut, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link

lol ethan

xxxp

gr8080, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it's telling that so many in the press and blogland who normally shit on ted kennedy are now acting like he's basically awesome since he's endorsed obama. it seems more like the kennedys are getting a boost from barack than the other way around. he sure as hell isn't riding their coattails at this point

El Tomboto, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link

T80MB80T

elmo argonaut, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Huckabee makes the Dems look better with his stupidity, so I hope he stays.

Bill Magill, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:03 (sixteen years ago) link

have you seen his ass? who'd want him riding their coattails?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link

and yeah as msnbc pointed out a Ted K endorsement is kind of the Madden curse of this shit

El Tomboto, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link

i know everyone's sick of this so i'll try to keep it brief but i'll concede that what bill said is technically -- dictionary-definition -- racist. (if racism = the privileging of skin color over other factors in making an assessment). that he was talking about a situation in which the privileging of skin color by voters may have played a role shouldn't have mattered -- he can't read people's minds. the situation is complex. and why the hell shouldn't black voters want to be a part of the first black candidate to have a real, serious shot at the white house? i know my mom loves obama but deep down she really really wants to vote for hillary because it's the first time in her life she'd be able to vote for a woman to be president. if she likes the candidate why the hell not?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:06 (sixteen years ago) link

tombot not 8080, the reason kennedy's endorsement is important is that its signifying that its ok for establishment folks to not feel indebted to the clintons, that they would have nothing to fear from endorsing barack

deej, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:13 (sixteen years ago) link

obama's arg = we're all on this bus together, and i'm going to drive us to a better place
hillary's arg = the bus is broke and i'm the mechanic

all these reductionist metaphors which we seemingly can't live without obscure the fact that clinton and obama are two complicated human beings with all kinds of old grudges and hopes and biases many of which are probably unknown even to themselves, and we really only have the faintest idea about how they would govern

Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link

and yeah as msnbc pointed out a Ted K endorsement is kind of the Madden curse of this shit

-- El Tomboto, Monday, January 28, 2008 4:04 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

??? he doesnt normally endorse candidates in the primaries

deej, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link

look at bush jr for instance, he was just supposed to be a kind of benign nitwit

xpost

Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Why Ted Kennedy's Endorsement Matters

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 January 2008 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link

and clinton was supposed to be a progressive, not a center-right micromanager

Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link

(Or, I should say, why T. Kennedy's endorsement should matter).

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 January 2008 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah yglesias otm

deej, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link

It would matter more if it were someone else besides Ted Kennedy.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry. None of his speeches have ever shaken my belief that he's a windbag.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Duh, he's a politician; OF COURSE he's a windbag!

HI DERE, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Don Imus got into an animated discussion this morning about former President Bill Clinton's comparison of Obama's South Carolina primary victory over Senator Clinton to Jesse Jackson. ''If I had made that comparison to Jesse Jackson,'' I have a feeling that I'd be talking to Al Sharpton again,'' Imus told Michael Graham of Boston's WTKK.

elmo argonaut, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link

(The entire point of politics is to find the windbag who will pontificate on the issues you care about.)

HI DERE, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, but the QUALITY of the air escaping from the bag matters.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:30 (sixteen years ago) link

the windiest bag full of the baggiest wind, yes, but certainly consequential no matter how you look at it

elmo argonaut, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link

(The entire point of politics is to find the windbag who will pontificate on the issues you care about.)

thanks -- I'll be sure to remember it.

Whatever else she is, HRC is NOT a windbag. Neither is Obama. Romney is a wet bag. Giuliani is a bag of dicks.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Everyone you've listed is a total windbag, come on.

HI DERE, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

2008 Presidential Candidates: If you were a bag, what kind of bag would you be?

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 January 2008 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry for being grouchy. This thread gets especially gaseous when it turns into a transcript of what CNN/FOX News have been no doubt discussing all day.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not saying it's a bad thing that politicians are windbags! If they weren't, no points of view would ever get put across to anyone.

HI DERE, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link

e.g. discussion on the Ted Kennedy thing and a question on how it will "play out".

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link

what would the opposite of a windbag be? someone who didn't blow a lot of smoke up people's collective asses but got stuff done?

Mr. Que, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link

no the cnn/fox stuff is good! i don't get those channels over here! maybe you should tag it somehow, though

Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link

ah i see you just did

Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not saying it's a bad thing that politicians are windbags! If they weren't, no points of view would ever get put across to anyone.

Not necessarily so. You can drum a point home in multiple settings, without having each individual speech run long and go on-and-on about your own importance.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 January 2008 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Insofar as pols love the sound of their voices, Dan's right, they're windbags, and exceptions are rare. But Obama's speeches are too chiselled to qualify as windbaggery. Even when they soar, the sentences are short and declarative.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link

alfred i would bet than any person who doesn't feel the obama magic would describe him as a windbag

Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^this

(NOTE: I like Obama a lot but come on, dude is a total windbag)

HI DERE, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

alright. I'm gonna watch William Jennings Bryan speeches on YouTube.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

That man is a dynamic speaker.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 January 2008 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

AND A WINDBAG

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link


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