Let's talk about Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and how unbelievably fucked up this all is

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support the Black NRA!

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 September 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

god, what an ugly, shitty existence. miserable little fuck.

goole, Monday, 9 September 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link

sarah silverman?

crüt zingmaster (crüt), Monday, 9 September 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link

The news of Zimmerman's detention Monday went viral and caused a stir at the Lake Mary Police Department, which serves a town of 14,574 people. The police have been deluged with phone calls from the media asking about the incident.

“Man, it would be fantastic if you have an apartment out there [in Los Angeles] for George Zimmerman," Bracknell, the police chief, told The Times. “This guy is killing me. We’re just a small-town police department -- this really taxes us."

fit and working again, Monday, 9 September 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link

Wife and father-in-law dropping charges, apparently.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 9 September 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

ugh, so sad. i spent a nanosecond contemplating whether to peek at the comments to that piece, but decided i need to tolerate humanity for the rest of today.

why is it i'm diggin your played out rhyme scenes (Hunt3r), Friday, 8 November 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link

we discussed it on the race & racism thread fyi

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Saturday, 9 November 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link

ty

why is it i'm diggin your played out rhyme scenes (Hunt3r), Saturday, 9 November 2013 02:27 (ten years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/11/18/us/ap-us-zimmerman-arrested.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes

"Former neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman"

twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Monday, 18 November 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link

Goodness gracious, poor George does seem to get involved in an awful lot of "fights" and "disturbances," doesn't he?

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Monday, 18 November 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link

pointing a shotgun at his girlfriend

hmm

the late great, Monday, 18 November 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link

pregnant girlfriend, apparently

Vic Arpeggio, Private Investigator (stevie), Monday, 18 November 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link

man, why do so many people put George in this position of having to defend himself with guns? if his pregnant girlfriend hadn't convinced him he was in grave danger, that table might still be intact today.

Lesbian has fucking riffs for days (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 November 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

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napgenius (goole), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

that is one ugly piece of shit painting

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link

it's also a shitty rebus

zanarkand bozo (abanana), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link

omg you guys

queen bey backers (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link

it's "ONE NATION" under "GOD"

queen bey backers (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link

I feel like I'm 11 years old and reading Parade in the Sunday Inquirer

queen bey backers (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link

http://www.wallibs.com/desktop-wallpaper/1600x1197/waving-usa-flag-phogo-20122.html

Page 1 on GIS for "wavy flag"

zanarkand bozo (abanana), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link

My art work allows me to reflect, providing a therapeutic outlet and allows me to remain indoors :-)

brownie, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link

so i won't murder anyone

brownie, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

I abhor boxing. But I could get into this, tbh.

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Sunday, 2 February 2014 08:09 (ten years ago) link

good for dmx but i wish he'd chosen not to give this human shit stain any further attention

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Sunday, 2 February 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link

^^^otm

dan m, Sunday, 2 February 2014 15:15 (ten years ago) link

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/16/us-usa-florida-shooting-dunn-idUSBREA1E0MR20140216

Reuters) - A north Florida jury convicted a white, middle-aged man on Saturday of three counts of attempted murder for opening fire on a car of black teenagers during an argument over loud rap music, but could not reach a verdict on a murder charge for the killing of a 17-year-old in the car.

Michael Dunn, a 47-year-old software engineer, fired 10 rounds at an SUV carrying four teens in a Jacksonville gas station parking lot in November 2012, killing black teen Jordan Davis.

The jury said it was deadlocked on the most serious charge of first degree murder against Dunn, forcing judge Russell Healey to declare a mistrial on that count.

The jury also found Dunn guilty on a fifth count of firing into an occupied vehicle.

The trial has drawn international attention because of racial overtones and Dunn's claims of self-defense.

The failure to reach a verdict on the first degree murder charge is a blow for the prosecution and the Davis family. But the three guilty verdicts on the charge of attempted second degree murder against the other teens in the SUV, mean that Dunn still faces a sentence of at least 60 years in jail, legal analysts said.

Prosecutors told a press conference after the verdicts that they plan to retry Dunn on the first degree murder charge.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 16 February 2014 03:58 (ten years ago) link

Fucking hell

, Sunday, 16 February 2014 03:59 (ten years ago) link

you should scan the letters dunn wrote from jail. available on a jacksonville website's special-page set up for the dunn trial.

Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 16 February 2014 04:02 (ten years ago) link

I wonder how many jurors didn't think he was guilty of first-degree murder

curmudgeon, Sunday, 16 February 2014 04:37 (ten years ago) link

I haven't been tracking this closely, but just the details alone don't indicate a first degree murder charge. Dude was reckless as fuck and a manslaughter conviction should have been a slam dunk.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 16 February 2014 04:41 (ten years ago) link

Yeah it definitely felt like the prosecutor overreached in trying for a first degree murder charge

Which obviously still speaks to how fucked up our criminal justice system is

, Sunday, 16 February 2014 04:56 (ten years ago) link

first degree is premeditated, isn't it? it wouldn't make sense in this case. at least he got nailed on the other counts

Nhex, Sunday, 16 February 2014 04:57 (ten years ago) link

Deliberation and Premeditation

Whether a killer acted with the deliberation and premeditation required for first degree murder can only be determined on a case by case basis. The need for deliberation and premeditation does not mean that the perpetrator must contemplate at length or plan far ahead of the murder. Time enough to form the conscious intent to kill and then act on it after enough time for a reasonable person to second guess the decision typically suffices. While this can happen very quickly, deliberation and premeditation must occur before, and not at the same time as, the act of killing.

- See more at: http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/first-degree-murder-overview.html#sthash.cuFpiaNY.dpuf

curmudgeon, Sunday, 16 February 2014 05:17 (ten years ago) link

that's what I figured - it'd be tough to prove that he planned ahead to kill someone, even if he probably was fantasizing about going Death Wish like so many other nuts, going by his statements after the fact

Nhex, Sunday, 16 February 2014 05:22 (ten years ago) link

For example, Dan and Connie rob Victor's liquor store, but as they are fleeing, Victor shoots and kills Dan. Under the felony murder rule, Connie can be charged with first-degree murder for Dan's death even though neither of the robbers actually did the killing.
(On felony murder charges) I bet this has been used on Law and Order at least once, but I've never seen it

Nhex, Sunday, 16 February 2014 05:24 (ten years ago) link

x-post-
this can happen very quickly,

Which is why first degree can make sense here where a guy fired a gun as many times as he did

curmudgeon, Sunday, 16 February 2014 05:31 (ten years ago) link

Florida prosecutors SUCK. SUCK. SUCK. But, hey, let 'em off the hook and keep bashing juries if you want. That fact that this was a mistrial and not an acquittal means that at least one juror stood the fuck up to a white racist scum bag juror. The first degree murder charge is not dead (although I am not exactly super hopeful about it).

Three Word Username, Sunday, 16 February 2014 12:35 (ten years ago) link

Acording to NYT, the jury automatically had to consider second and third degree murder as well as manslaughter, and still couldn't come to an agreement.

On the other hand, as a scandinavian anti-prison soft-on-crime liberal, I still think 60 years in jail would be more than sufficient for this murderous racist scumbag. It's obviously not the problem in this mistrial, but still.

Frederik B, Sunday, 16 February 2014 12:50 (ten years ago) link

The trial has drawn international attention because of racial overtones and Dunn's claims of self-defense.

Man, I am sick to death of this "racial overtones" and "racially charged" language that media and commentators use in cases like these. Ain't no overtones here, it's all there in the root note.

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Sunday, 16 February 2014 13:52 (ten years ago) link

a strong, full-bodied trial, with a tart woody finish, hints of walnut in the aftertaste, and the slightest overtone of white supremacy.

eric banana (s.clover), Sunday, 16 February 2014 14:18 (ten years ago) link

a+

politically autocorrect (darraghmac), Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:25 (ten years ago) link

Wasn't it argued that it was premeditated because he had to stop, take out and load his gun first before he fired willy-nilly into the car? It's hard to keep all these shootings straight.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:30 (ten years ago) link

I will not respect the lie. I would rather be thought insane.

Simon H., Sunday, 16 February 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link

Anthony Reed on the trial and its coverage:

The ruling classes’ fantasy of the other’s pathological culture makes the deaths of those attached to it the sad but predictable outcome of the Other’s failure, the sign of a subculture unfit for modern society, rather than the indirect result of policy and the myths a corrupt social order needs to uphold itself. But it also keeps the conversation abstract. “Loud music trial” conjures away a dead black child and transforms the trial into a conversation between–and consolidation of–the ruling classes over literal black bodies.

http://thesacredwords.wordpress.com/2014/02/16/thug-culture/

one way street, Sunday, 16 February 2014 17:10 (ten years ago) link

great pieces from both Coates and Reed

Spaghetti Sauce Shampoo (Moodles), Sunday, 16 February 2014 17:28 (ten years ago) link

That fact that this was a mistrial and not an acquittal means that at least one juror stood the fuck up to a white racist scum bag juror. The first degree murder charge is not dead (although I am not exactly super hopeful about it).

― Three Word Username, Sunday, February 16, 2014 7:35 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

couldn't it have been the other way around? one white scumbag juror standing up to 11 people who saw a conviction?

le goon (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 16 February 2014 17:59 (ten years ago) link


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