A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

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Ned Doheny admitted in HC that Geffen was checking him out.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link

"a true power ballad is ballady enough to get you out on the dancefloor for a slow dance with a girl at a junior high dance but then rocks hard enough at a certain point to make going through the motions of slow dancing seem really awkward"

journey and reo rule this land.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link

and that scorpions song.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link

stiiiiiiiiiiiiiilll loving youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu?

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link

Cuz you know it's youuuuu baaaabe
Whenever I get weary and I've haaaad enough

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link

linda ronstadt was amazing. i love her voice. would listen to 2 disc capitol thing.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link

still loving you is so great. would have loved to hear linda ronstadt sing it.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link

it's a badass power ballad for sure

UNLIKE DESPERADO

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link

i forgot about that doheny song title "i get it up for love". says it all.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link

totally. scorps kick ass on that song and still melt hearts.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link

I'm pretty sure we played "Desperado" as a slow dance at my school.

Eagles were big up there. It was even our mascot.

pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link

Ned Doheny s/t is terrific, haven't heard Hard Candy yet.

You all nailed it - Camaro blarability is the key measure of power balladry.

574 srsly (Lee626), Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:11 (ten years ago) link

speaking of eagles friends always loved windmills by rick roberts. henley on drums/backing vox:

http://youtu.be/lRElZswFQMo

scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link

also good:

http://youtu.be/YrKU00PaMPU

scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link

Is it just me, or does the string section hold onto certain notes on the outro way past their sell-by date?

well there's one moment -- the second to last chord of the song -- where the strings are doing a graceful ritard while the piano impatiently anticipates the chord, so if anything it's not the strings holding on for too long but the piano letting go too soon. but it's a cool effect!

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link

in 2005, when I still received everything Rhino put out, they sent me the box of all the Eagles records. So I became familiar with 'em in a way that I never would have if I had to spend money on 'em, etc etc (that's hardly anyone's concern now)…

The Long Run is far away my favorite, and I expect to contribute to this hugely entertaining thread as soon as it gets to records I like/ have something to say about.

But in light of where the thread is now, may I refer you all to the first ILM thread I ever started. To me in 2006, "desperado" is like a Ray Charles song. so was "new York State of Mind."

TS: "Desperado" vs. "New York State of Mind"

veronica moser, Thursday, 5 September 2013 04:33 (ten years ago) link

My god Hell Freezes Over rode the top ten in '94-'95 for six months.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 11:04 (ten years ago) link

"Certain Kind Of Fool"

http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/whitcap/randyutc-1.jpg

http://youtu.be/JPsB__7MemQ

scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:03 (ten years ago) link

IT'S RANDY'S TIME TO SHINE!

scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:03 (ten years ago) link

playing this on the front porch just now i suddenly got embarrassed and turned it down in case anyone walked by...

scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link

oh god i think my neighbor heard me i didn't see them there in front of their house...

scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link

"turn up the eagles the neighbours are listening"!!

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link

BONUS 1980 SOLO RANDY VIDEO!!!!

http://youtu.be/k3jFaDmC1t0

scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:12 (ten years ago) link

This so strange, it's like an amalgam of all the artists The Eagles would've been aspiring to - the intro is pure Joni, it goes sort of uninspired Neil in the chorus, there're CS&N and power leads in there - and yet it doesn't sound like The Eagles at all.

It's pretty terrible in truth. More boilerplate r'n'r. The solo is very good and I like the oo-oos; the dual guitar at the end not so much; the bass is okay; the drum roll at the end is plain weird. What the hell is the story? Some kind of lame moralising, why are they glamorising outlaws then moving onto this.

The vocal is a bit horrible but at least it's got a tense kind of urgency to it. How's that, is it all fifths? Reminds me of the pleading in the Beatles' Dr Robert, though that was for effect, rather than the adolescent whine that this basically is.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link

i dare you to remember what it sounds like five minutes after you play it.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link

"They say that he was craaaazy,
The kind that no lady should meet
He ran out to the ciiiity
and wandered around in the street "

this is pretty dire. I guess it's sorta clever that the second verse could be about a guy buying/practicing a guitar as much as it's (apparently) him becoming a gunslinger, in keeping with the "rock stars are the new outlaws" crackpot theme of the LP. Otherwise, ugh. I thought Meisner was a better singer than this.

agree there's a Neil Young feel to the chorus, but like eighth-generation Neil Young.

col, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:51 (ten years ago) link

I disagree, I think it's quite memorable because of the vocal. But still rubbish though. Crappy lyrics too - "he was a poor boy, raised in a small family" - not going for the telling detail at all there.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link

i like the chord progression. everything else could use some work. still better than at least half of the first lp.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link

haha the vocals sound weird...like in a different key?

some of the verse reminds me of if Styx was country rock

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link

its really clunky. kind of ahead of its time though for 1973. by 1978 there would be a zillion AOR bands writing songs like this.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:22 (ten years ago) link

guys like this. they took inspiration from randy.

http://www.popsike.com/pix/20120622/290732554815.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:24 (ten years ago) link

fyi: that EP by The Deal sells for a ton if you ever see it. 200 dollar record.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link

why?

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link

Sounds really familiar. Like did Cher do a cover of this?

pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link

the intro sounds REALLY familiar. like its a song i should know. another song.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link

The vocals remind me a little of Chris Bell on "I Am The Cosmos": he's at the top of his range (but not really, as we'd see in "Take It To The Limit"), and straining just a little. It works with Bell, not as much with Meisner.

Verse reminds me of the Motels' "Only the Lonely" ("They say that he was craaaazyy"/"It's like I toooolllld you")

Sounds kinda unfinished, like Meisner was pushing the guys to do a drawn-out ending and Henley was like, "Nope, you're done."

Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link

"why?"

beats me. i sell a lot of stuff like that to italy for some reason. private press/tiny label AOR stuff in general always good to sell. 70's and early 80's.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link

huh...that's so weird...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9nq6Dml4PA

^this band later featured a super young Dave Ellefson from Megadeth

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link

The Litterer Band were a big AOR band in nothern Iowa in the late 70s and early to mid 80s...though they sorta retooled as a hair metal band like a lot of those bands did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bgDNtXNUXg

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link

the intro sounds REALLY familiar. like its a song i should know. another song

Carey by Joni Mitchell?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link

amazing that afterwards one song stays here and the other goes there

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link

it's a no embeds thred m@tt

zvookster, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link

oops if anyone is a mod they can take it out

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link

oh before i forget we need a group vote. coming up is a 48 second instrumental on the Desperado album and i need to know whether i should pair it with the next actual song or do we just talk about a 48 second instrumental tomorrow. i'll leave it up to you guys.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link

48-second instrumental please

Listening to this and Joni back-to-back has sledgehammered home The Eagles' fundamental averageness, I need as much of a break as thread concept can give me.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link

Friday would be the perfect day for me to enjoy a 48-second Eagles song.

I'm on board with reprises getting their own days in the sun too.

pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link

another vote for the miniature instrumental (& the reprise)

col, Thursday, 5 September 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link

I'm down with 48 seconds

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link

Ditto

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 September 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link

A Certain Kind of Fool is almost good. I like the plaintive, strained singing on the verses. But not quite. This is miles above Frey filler though.

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 September 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link


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