A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

lol

yeah in Hotel California Souther comes off as this super Lothario who seemed to hold sway over Frey and Henley even at their peak....

loooool Alfred

like in the band private jet JD got to sit in the front w.Frey and Henley and the other dudes in the Eagles had to sit in the back

as far as desperado

i can't really hear this song anymore

"You're a musician?!"
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and if I remember the book correctly Souther acknowledges that Geffen eyed him a few times.

this is the only way I would have hung out with them

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you would have needed that suit and a Publix bag full of poisoned nettles.

i would have a bee-cannon as well to spray them with live bees if needed

Souther comes off as this super Lothario who seemed to hold sway over Frey and Henley even at their peak...

and he's pretty much the only person who holds any real sway over rayna james. i'm sure she'd let him sit in the front of her jet.

haha ok i had to look that up i've never seen nashville but glad JD is working

I thought Souther would be set financially for the rest of his life.

Souther has credits on most the big imperial era Eagles tracks, with some reports claiming a bunch of those songs began with him. Very front of the plane dude.

So Dylan is to blame for all this like "The Band" bs. Figures since he and The Grateful Dead are the only ones that ruined American music more than The Eagles.

mellow out man

take it easy

literally

so is desperado the template for the power ballad? are there earlier power ballads to be aware of?

it's a pretty immaculately constructed song, but it's also just so totally ridiculous.

This is flawless of course. Why on earth did they not release it as a single though? Was that a trend at the time, holding the best thing back for the album, like Gimme Shelter or Stairway to Heaven?

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, September 4, 2013 9:06 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think the A&R guys genuinely thought this wouldn't likely be a hit. Thus far, their uptempo singles tended to sell better, especially those by outside writers. The two singles that had already been released fell far short of the top 40, and were ignored outside the US. I think they wanted more crazed banjos, or at least gritty guitars on the instrumental bridge.

Is it just me, or does the string section hold onto certain notes on the outro way past their sell-by date?

Also: the Eagles' rise as multiplatinum threat coincided with the softening of the American and British charts. Check out the non-disco and R&B hits on the 1974-1976 charts; then El Lay studio rock rose as a complement to disco.

desperado's just a ballad though? it's not really a power ballad imo

Even if "Desperado" is a power ballad, there's got to be some that came before it. Like Bread for example starting in 1969 - "Make It With You" and "Baby I'm a-Want You" were the power ballads against hard rockers like "Mother Freedom" and "Truckin'". It's just that their rockers didn't become hits, so they became perceived as a (very) soft-rock act rather than a rock band balancing their rockers with AM radio-friendly power ballads.

but it's not a power ballad

its got drums kicking in midway through, strings, backup vox, it's a total power ballad!

...

you're a power ballad

vegemite raises a good point

the drums and the strings is just the way it builds to a climax, lots of ballads do this and the slightly bigger crescendo does not = 'power'

imo

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I think of "power ballad" as more a marketing term than a musical genre. It's like when an '80s pop-metal band quiets down for an uncharacteristicly slow and melodic single that wouldn't be too wimpy for the AOR stations of the day but would be palatable to top-40 or adult-contemporary tastes as well.

a true power ballad is ballady enough to get you out on the dancefloor for a slow dance with a girl at a junior high dance but then rocks hard enough at a certain point to make going through the motions of slow dancing seem really awkward

also you have to be able to picture it blaring out of a Camaro

you have to be able to picture it blaring out of Henley-Frey-Souther's apartment.

jesus you guys desperado can totally be blared out of a camaro

desperado has no power

xpost your camaro maybe

"J.D. Souther is the only one of these soulless miscreants I would've allowed to fuck me"

jackson too girly? he was a dreamboat to most.

he's a ponderous fellow

And a hitter iirc

i can't stand him. creepy

would you throw ned doheny out of bed for eating crackers?

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great album that used to sell for a dollar and now sells for $$$ thanks to the young and the hip.

So guys... I never heard early Linda ronstadt before an hour ago. This Capitol Years 2CD fucking slays in every way. Holy crap.

Ned Doheny admitted in HC that Geffen was checking him out.

"a true power ballad is ballady enough to get you out on the dancefloor for a slow dance with a girl at a junior high dance but then rocks hard enough at a certain point to make going through the motions of slow dancing seem really awkward"

journey and reo rule this land.

and that scorpions song.

stiiiiiiiiiiiiiilll loving youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu?

Cuz you know it's youuuuu baaaabe
Whenever I get weary and I've haaaad enough

linda ronstadt was amazing. i love her voice. would listen to 2 disc capitol thing.