OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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"The lead single from Ciara's self-titled fifth album, "Body Party," is an oozing, seductive R&B track

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first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link

cap'n save-a-hack

"Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

i'm kind of relieved when i run across phoned-in robot articles written by people who have not spent any time analyzing pop culture, one less human being subjecting themselves to the grotesquery of caring in a sinking ship industry.

forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link

*puts cigarette out on palm, gazes balefully into the smoggy distance*

One burly voice screamed and that was one of many. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link

in any case, this guy answers the thread question pretty definitively; i can't imagine anyone else who gets this level of distribution and exposure who writes this poorly

One burly voice screamed and that was one of many. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link

it's a relief! phew, this person can care more about things that matter. good for them.

xp i beg to differ. i enjoyed the 'burly voice' line more than anything you've ever posted.

forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link

no offense. i mean it's a great line, not everyone can be a genius.

forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link

no offense taken. there are certainly plenty of would-be "genius" hacks who devote themselves to flexing atrophied muscles on the internet in misguided attempts to look clever.
why one of them could be in the room right... now.
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One burly voice screamed and that was one of many. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link

joan didion?

Cannae Just (Lamp), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link

holy shit, joan didion is in the room?

One burly voice screamed and that was one of many. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link

she posts as "The Other J.D."

da croupier, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link

AP (New York) -- Wire service writes like wire service

katherine, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link

katherine gets me as of late tho

Vinetalic - "My Friend Terio" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, criticising someone who's probably a news reporter for not writing a great review is insufferably smug. Unless everyone here could write a perfect court report …

Wantaway Striker (ithappens), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link

his work is factually incorrect, grammatically suspect and betrays little creativity or knowledge of the work he's writing about!

One burly voice screamed and that was one of many. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link

what standards would you LIKE me to judge that work on?

One burly voice screamed and that was one of many. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link

Everything in his AP repertoire so far is music/pop culture oriented, so I dunno where the idea that he's a news reporter comes from.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:46 (ten years ago) link

he says he's a music writer in his twitter bio

many a slip 'twixt Yow and Yip (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link

what's his twitter name again?

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link

Leave him alone!

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link

I imagine Britney saying that.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link

but shouldn't someone tell him that a bunch of people he's never heard of think he's not good at something?

j., Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link

so are we gonna be hand-wringing about poor music journalism in in-flight magazines next?

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link

I wouldn't want his job. I imagine none of us would. But the idea that he's got it instead of someone who can write and actually knows things about music is irritating.

I know! Welcome to the world.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link

god get over yourself

forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link

rme at everyone in this thread stanning for this clown. If he worked at Wendy's, he'd be fired by now.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link

Wendy's publishes music writing?

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link

irl lol

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link

WHAT THE HELL

Bad writer writes badly. When has this ever been a taking sides issue on ilm before?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link

sorry that was flip - i think it's more an issue of should we be spending our precious outrage resources on this issue rather than something else

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link

if you'd changed Wendy's to Subway otoh

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link

seriously if this rote and harmless writing irritates you, i would suggest some self-exploration, it can only get better.

forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link

The customer ate his Foot-long Cold Cut Trio with ease, and at times slowed things down as florescent tubes hummed and adjacent heat lamps warmed the Provolone

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link

Jesus fuck, this is the fucking AP, not some backwater daily. Forget about musical knowledge, this writer can barely put a sentence together.

"Mumford & Sons and the crowd were loud, but not unruly during the two-hour show. The band played their folk-rock tunes with ease, and at times slowed things down as red-orange lights shined and small light bulbs hung in the air. They (typo in original) boys were like mad scientists during "Dustbowl Dance" (they were? how so?) — singer Marcus Mumford was now on the drums and he kicked it (kicked what???) out of his way as he headed to the front of the stage to finish singing the song."

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link

I'm not even heavily invested in this whole thing, other than figuring out the author's name. I was just amazed to come back to the thread hours later and see people arguing over whether or not his work should be taken in context and whatever other excuses are upthread. Dude has written one ill-informed piece, some other really o_O things, and all of the sudden he's a frustrated news reporter who's been forced to write about music (which doesn't appear to be the case whatsoever...he chose music, and he's bad at it!).

And then I was told to get over myself, to which I say get the fuck out of my face.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link

Seriously, Matt P. That shit was uncalled for and I hope you get a summer cold and don't sleep for three nights.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link

I'm not really particularly mad at the writer or that I'm not that writer, in fact I'm not especially mad at all -- what it boils down to is that this is just another thing to mock on the internet and kill a little more time before I die. But it's still a bit sad to see how grimey the bottom of the barrel is that is now being scraped by journalistic outlets unwilling or unable to pay living wages.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link

are we sure the AP this guy with is the Associated Press? if he was with Alternative Press he'd be one of their best writers.

2 Steenz (some dude), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link

Newspaper writing is an entirely discipline than "music writing."

Meanwhile I HAVE BLOG gang of twentysomethings are turning the regular music writing game into an outlet for shameless self-aggrandizing with no idea about "ethics" or "how to write a lede" and that shit runs rampant all day long and you guys aren't crying.

Vinetalic - "My Friend Terio" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link

i have blog gang kill them all

2 Steenz (some dude), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:38 (ten years ago) link

That's because I don't read any of it. Ever. Unless something particularly good or particularly bad gets linked in my general vicinity, it might as well all take place in a parallel universe.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link

Newspaper writing is an entirely discipline than "music writing."

xxp - newspaper editing too!

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link

"The two boxers went at it like mad scientists, hitting each other with gloves and sometimes putting up their own gloves to block the other guys"

I'm a news writer, not a sports writer.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:48 (ten years ago) link

Newspaper writing has a non-zero overlap with music writing in that you shouldn't accidentally write about Trent Reznor's weenis in either

touch. zing touch. you've almost convinced me I'm real (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

what it boils down to is that this is just another thing to...kill a little more time before I die.

My guiding philosophy for at least the last 6-7 years.

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link

Can we please go back over every piece of writing linked in this thread over the years and assess whether it is appropriate to compare it to didion (if not, y'all have wasted a LOT of time)

I Accidentally Dommed Your Sub (wins), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:58 (ten years ago) link

it's funny, because in trying to pull the "You guys are taking mediocre news writing a little too seriously" move, they actually set themselves up for the "you guys are taking INTERNET too seriously" move. Played yaselves.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link

it would be one thing if the AP were still just a wire service delivering raw data but they churn out so much crap now to fill sites with it ain't even funny. all kinds of non-news crap.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:34 (ten years ago) link

The problem with this guy's writing is not that it's hacky or that it isn't Joan didion, it's that it's barely even language. Hacks are baseline competent. Hacks can remember the clause before the one they're currently writing.

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:44 (ten years ago) link

to be fair, most writers don't really know how to write anymore.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:49 (ten years ago) link


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