probably a lot more of that in the shakey book i haven't read it.
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link
btw never believed that line about Young not reading.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
scott! You'll love the Shakey book!
Young probably got his licks in on Stills too. That story in Sharkey about Young conning Stills into overpaying for a guitar could just be the tip of that cocaine iceberg.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
"Shakey"...stupid pono phone.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
if Stills had been in the Eagles then I would understand the hate for the band that's the genesis of this thread. & I like CSN! but Stills is gross and his CSN(Y) (& springfield) songs are by and large the worst of those bands. BLAHHHHK QUEEEN oh fuck you
― Euler, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
well, the dude did write the lyric "Forgive me if my fantasies might seem a little shopworn."
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
The Eagles didn't need Stills...they had Frey!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
Dallas Taylor's book is worth checking out for lots of disturbing CSN stories.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:38 (ten years ago) link
i worry about pono sometimes
otm
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Saturday, 31 August 2013 05:28 (ten years ago) link
"Doolin-Dalton"
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FkHsCg7rmtw/UBPcSFnuVFI/AAAAAAAAALg/8iSnR8vDo98/s1600/EaglesPlus.jpg
http://youtu.be/-dzW2jzWdds
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
it took four members of the brain trust to write this song:
"Doolin-Dalton" (Glenn Frey, J. D. Souther, Don Henley, Jackson Browne)
and to be fair it actually sounds like an effort, you know? they were trying, man.
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
at least they look like they could hit a gay bar
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
"Graveyards filled with tombstones, waiting for the names" -- this is not how tombstones work iirc
― Brad C., Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
I always thought this look was pretty dope. Looking forward to finding out why it bombed.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
well, not making "desperado" a single might be one reason!
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
It wasn't?!
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link
and Alice Cooper's was still better.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
"tequila sunrise" and "outlaw man" were the singles.
Year Single Chart Position1973 "Outlaw Man" Billboard Pop Singles 591973 "Tequila Sunrise" Billboard Pop Singles 64
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
the album got to number 41 in the states. did better on canadian charts. which makes sense as canada was suffering from stampeders fever.
http://s.cdon.com/media-dynamic/images/product/music/album/image5/rubes_dudes_rowdies_import-stampeders-1195523-frnt.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
stampedin' into your heart!
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/2CPt3eSBJiQ/maxresdefault.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
As with the first LP, you can spy the path of an alternate Eagles here: a mildly ambitious country-rock band that petered out around 1975. Fair to say this is the most Leadon-influenced album?
― col, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
my pal michael robbins wrote the best Eagles poem. i forgot about it. i wish i could copy it here but i don't know how to copy googlebooks stuff. its here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=SC-ptkaj8UQC&pg=PT43&lpg=PT43&dq=%22michael+robbins%22+%22desperado%22&source=bl&ots=MxctQbFe4e&sig=1YzF915aX3GqB0iedfP4tWRfOCA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=UhAiUvPuE_PHsATGkYHIDg&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22michael%20robbins%22%20%22desperado%22&f=false
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
Yeah this is really good, can hardly fault this at all. Maybe have Henley singing the whole thing, The Eagles need a bit of grit and he's the raspiest. This has plenty grit even without that though, and the great merit of cutting in with a minor chord or something whenever things start to get trite ('lay down your law books...' - in fact the end of every verse, which is nicely done).
It's a good piece of writing, nice arrangement (harmonica suits them well), and pretty much ideal to open a concept album. I suspect said concept album is going less interesting places than it might, but that's another day. Best since Witchy Woman anyway.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
I love this song, not gonna front
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 August 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
I like this one. It achieves that rare feat of a concept album track being able to both set up a narrative and push the story ahead within a 3:30 run time. The "Better keep on movin'" part reminds be of the Derek & The Dominoes version of "Little Wing".
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 August 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
Never heard this album (apart from the singles) all the way through. Henley's vocals on this reminds me of Rod Stewart a little. Was ready to launch into a Two Minute Hate, but it's a good song.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/4vX9v-RF9Es/hqdefault.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
ha, everyone was so ready to hate. hey, this song is good!
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
i was looking forward to this album tbrr
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
i was talking to this great guy i know - he's a musician who performs under the name Dredd Foole - and i asked him what his earliest memories of the eagles were. what he thought of them at the time. and i kinda figured he would wrinkle his nose and all that, but he said that Desperado was an album that really meant a lot to him at the time. that album and Carney by Leon Russell. those albums fit his mood/frame of mind at that moment. it made me want to play them both.
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
My favourite Eagles record fwiw
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
(I used to have that first Dredd Foole album!)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
Missing two pages (stupid Googlebooks), but here's Grace Lichtenstein's essay on the Desperado lp from Stranded
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link
I had the first dredd foole and the din album too!
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
I like that essay; stoked for the album now
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
This is decent, but it kind of makes me think that, in their heart of hearts, they really wanted to be the west coast Band.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
^^^
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
I had the Dredd Foole and the Din album too. Downloaded it to hear it again a few months ago, in fact.
― 誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
I was 12 or 13 the first time I heard this album, my dad or step-mother owned a copy.
This track felt portentous, like the opening scenes of a grown-up Western. I'd seen "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" but but this seemed darker and meaner: Bill Dalton is not buying either God's will or the law books, he's cussing, he's clearly a serious outlaw. His sidekick appears out of nowhere and joins up like one of the Magnificent Seven. They ride out. To be continued!
At this point I was totally on-board. I loved how the album cover looked like the Time-Life "Old West" books I was getting in the mail:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/Thecowboys.jpg
― Brad C., Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
Don't get the love for this one; find it rather dull and unspectacular country-rock, especially for an album opener.
― Lee626, Saturday, 31 August 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
Wow, the Time-Life "Old West" series!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8kZDZ4eXXk
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
http://img0.etsystatic.com/001/0/5863214/il_570xN.352465900_mckg.jpg
― scott seward, Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link
in the 70's there were Osmonds...and lots of cowboys.
and Osmonds dressed as cowboys. obviously. from time to time anyway.
― scott seward, Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:08 (ten years ago) link
[osmondscrazyhorses.jpg] haha xpost
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:12 (ten years ago) link
Well they were a little bit country iirc
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link
The story of the Desperado artwork:
http://youtu.be/lcTTdwv1Xp4
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link
"Twenty-One"
http://www.rockcellarmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Henry-Diltz-Eagles-Gunfire.jpg
http://youtu.be/k-L_sxkI9xY
― scott seward, Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
Digging this. Maybe because it reminds me of the Flying Burrito Brothers' "Christine's Tune." But so far, my favorite/least-annoying Eagles harmony singing.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link