A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

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that woman was paul simon

woah

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link

Sweet baby Paul

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link

This song is like the bastard child of Alex Chilton (pplains otm) and Stephen Stills (will otm, but lyrically this is like him too--remember his tmi jams "Make Love To You" and "Fair Game"?) (not Manassas, but whatever). Was this the song that got dropped for "Nightingale"? Weird that it never got collected on an album--you'd think with so little rare or unreleased Eagles material it would have been on the box set or something.

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link

Also, I had to grab my copy of CSN to sure I had "Fair Game" correct, and Chilton's Free Again was directly under it in the stack. Eerie.

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link

"Make Love To You" and "Fair Game"?

ha i don't know these but going to listen to them right now

|citation needed| (will), Friday, 30 August 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link

I bet Neil is fine to hang with, but his circle is pretty tight. Randy Newman is a bro, don't think he's a dick, have talked with him a few times and he was cool. There is no way Paul Simon did not know Richard Thompson, or if he didn't, he had surely heard him in Fairport, or whatever. Maybe he misheard? Los Lobos guys I have heard could be dicks. To this day I know people who dread booking them because they shut the place down. They are always the last to leave, with the bar dry.

Was reading the Sammy Hagar book, and he and Eddie played the Bridge School benefit once (!). Paul Simon was there and asked Eddie if he wanted to do "Sound of Silence" and Eddie didn't know it. Now that I believe.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 August 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzZsl1YVkZw

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 August 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

Dying here. That EVH cameo is straight out of St. Sanders.

Vast Halo, Friday, 30 August 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link

Is Neil a good guy? I mean I'd love to hang out with him, but I'm not sure I'd be expecting a mellowed-out good time as such.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2012/10/the-vexing-simplicity-of-neil-young.html

"On the ride Young told me that he didn’t read, but I might have guessed anyway. He was a reserved and slightly grave figure, and talking with him was like being trapped with someone whose mind had no reach. He could only talk about what he felt or had seen or thought. I couldn’t respond to one of his remarks by raising an idea it had made me think of and have him make some connection to some other thought and then respond to that. A part of him seemed to have been arrested at a very early age."

fact checking cuz, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link

plus, he's a victim of Stills abuse. hard to come back from.

scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link

again in that hotel california book people were dumfounded that neil would hang with stills for so long cuz stills was so horrible to him. but neil loved jamming with stills so i guess that was worth it.

scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link

probably a lot more of that in the shakey book i haven't read it.

scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link

btw never believed that line about Young not reading.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link

scott! You'll love the Shakey book!

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link

Young probably got his licks in on Stills too. That story in Sharkey about Young conning Stills into overpaying for a guitar could just be the tip of that cocaine iceberg.

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link

"Shakey"...stupid pono phone.

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link

if Stills had been in the Eagles then I would understand the hate for the band that's the genesis of this thread. & I like CSN! but Stills is gross and his CSN(Y) (& springfield) songs are by and large the worst of those bands. BLAHHHHK QUEEEN oh fuck you

Euler, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link

well, the dude did write the lyric "Forgive me if my fantasies might seem a little shopworn."

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link

The Eagles didn't need Stills...they had Frey!

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link

Dallas Taylor's book is worth checking out for lots of disturbing CSN stories.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:38 (ten years ago) link

i worry about pono sometimes

otm

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Saturday, 31 August 2013 05:28 (ten years ago) link

it took four members of the brain trust to write this song:

"Doolin-Dalton" (Glenn Frey, J. D. Souther, Don Henley, Jackson Browne)

and to be fair it actually sounds like an effort, you know? they were trying, man.

scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link

at least they look like they could hit a gay bar

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link

"Graveyards filled with tombstones, waiting for the names" -- this is not how tombstones work iirc

Brad C., Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link

I always thought this look was pretty dope. Looking forward to finding out why it bombed.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link

well, not making "desperado" a single might be one reason!

scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link

It wasn't?!

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link

and Alice Cooper's was still better.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link

"tequila sunrise" and "outlaw man" were the singles.

Year Single Chart Position
1973 "Outlaw Man" Billboard Pop Singles 59
1973 "Tequila Sunrise" Billboard Pop Singles 64

scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link

the album got to number 41 in the states. did better on canadian charts. which makes sense as canada was suffering from stampeders fever.

http://s.cdon.com/media-dynamic/images/product/music/album/image5/rubes_dudes_rowdies_import-stampeders-1195523-frnt.jpg

scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link

stampedin' into your heart!

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/2CPt3eSBJiQ/maxresdefault.jpg

scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link

As with the first LP, you can spy the path of an alternate Eagles here: a mildly ambitious country-rock band that petered out around 1975. Fair to say this is the most Leadon-influenced album?

col, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link

my pal michael robbins wrote the best Eagles poem. i forgot about it. i wish i could copy it here but i don't know how to copy googlebooks stuff. its here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=SC-ptkaj8UQC&pg=PT43&lpg=PT43&dq=%22michael+robbins%22+%22desperado%22&source=bl&ots=MxctQbFe4e&sig=1YzF915aX3GqB0iedfP4tWRfOCA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=UhAiUvPuE_PHsATGkYHIDg&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22michael%20robbins%22%20%22desperado%22&f=false

scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link

Yeah this is really good, can hardly fault this at all. Maybe have Henley singing the whole thing, The Eagles need a bit of grit and he's the raspiest. This has plenty grit even without that though, and the great merit of cutting in with a minor chord or something whenever things start to get trite ('lay down your law books...' - in fact the end of every verse, which is nicely done).

It's a good piece of writing, nice arrangement (harmonica suits them well), and pretty much ideal to open a concept album. I suspect said concept album is going less interesting places than it might, but that's another day. Best since Witchy Woman anyway.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link

I love this song, not gonna front

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 August 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link

I like this one. It achieves that rare feat of a concept album track being able to both set up a narrative and push the story ahead within a 3:30 run time. The "Better keep on movin'" part reminds be of the Derek & The Dominoes version of "Little Wing".

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 August 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

Never heard this album (apart from the singles) all the way through. Henley's vocals on this reminds me of Rod Stewart a little. Was ready to launch into a Two Minute Hate, but it's a good song.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/4vX9v-RF9Es/hqdefault.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link

ha, everyone was so ready to hate. hey, this song is good!

scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link

i was looking forward to this album tbrr

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link

i was talking to this great guy i know - he's a musician who performs under the name Dredd Foole - and i asked him what his earliest memories of the eagles were. what he thought of them at the time. and i kinda figured he would wrinkle his nose and all that, but he said that Desperado was an album that really meant a lot to him at the time. that album and Carney by Leon Russell. those albums fit his mood/frame of mind at that moment. it made me want to play them both.

scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

My favourite Eagles record fwiw

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link

(I used to have that first Dredd Foole album!)

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link

Missing two pages (stupid Googlebooks), but here's Grace Lichtenstein's essay on the Desperado lp from Stranded

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link

I had the first dredd foole and the din album too!

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link

I like that essay; stoked for the album now

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link

This is decent, but it kind of makes me think that, in their heart of hearts, they really wanted to be the west coast Band.

Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link

^^^

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link

I had the Dredd Foole and the Din album too. Downloaded it to hear it again a few months ago, in fact.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link


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