IA at ppl who write overly conversational waaaaaay too long instructions It's cool when explanations are needed but don't be chatty and don't lump a whole bunch of steps into one paragraph.
I'm learning a whole bunch of new tasks that were written up by my predecessor and no shit it's written like some kind of Martha Stewart special. "So now that we're done with that we then take the ...'
And this is just, like Excel stuff. boom boom boom step BY step do you not understand how LITTLE I want to read your flowery too-long explanations JUST GIVE ME THE STEPS FFS
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link
It's like Yelp went into the instruction manual business.
― aldi young dudes (suzy), Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link
it's "hi la lechera, how are you" (particularly in writing, not so much irl) because i expect more from most people who would write to me than "hi how are you" i expect something a little less robotic/2nd grade letter writing tips -- not a genuine interest in my life because i don't really want to talk about that, just "sup -- here's my q"
better
QUERY:
― j., Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
u ppl sure are cranky about how you're greeted huh
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
Today I am. Not usually.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
its ok it is the irrational anger thread tbf
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
I learned in my workplace personality type class that some people require small talk or feel communication is rude without it, so perhaps this person is one of those or is hedging in case you are
― mh, Friday, 30 August 2013 00:15 (ten years ago) link
my workplace personality type class
wut
― mookieproof, Friday, 30 August 2013 00:28 (ten years ago) link
i'm an autumn
― j., Friday, 30 August 2013 00:31 (ten years ago) link
^^ IA
― carl agatha, Friday, 30 August 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link
hi how are you = feeble small talk (a) i am not that kind of person (b) this person should really know that by know since we have known each other for 15 years (c)
that is my already faded gripe in a nutshell
― no fomo (La Lechera), Friday, 30 August 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link
by NOW not by knowughsorry
― no fomo (La Lechera), Friday, 30 August 2013 01:07 (ten years ago) link
I hate that too, and even worse is 'I hope you are well?' The question mark is super-enraging.
― ljubljana, Friday, 30 August 2013 01:13 (ten years ago) link
People who phone my mobile when I'm at work, number withheld, and do not let it ring for long enough to get from my desk to somewhere where I can actually take a call
now I get to spend the rest of the day wondering if I missed something urgent when it was probably just someone trying to sell me a conservatory (would look nice on my 2nd-floor flat, I agree)
― the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 12:04 (ten years ago) link
if someone calls you on your mobile phone from a number you don't know and do not leave a voicemail it means it was completely unimportant
― space is deep (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
I would agree except 1. I don't have voicemail set up and 2. the last withheld number I managed to answer in office hours was a health service I'm supposed to have an appointment with on Friday, so I suspect the missed call may be them either reminding or rearranging - the latter would be nice to know about.
on the other hand, it probably was just a sales cold-call. (yeah, I'll ring to confirm my appointment the day before, I just don't want to annoy my boss by arranging and rearranging time off)
― the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
95% of the calls I receive on my phone come up as Unknown.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
maybe you should set up your voicemail, just a suggestion
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
so basically you're just angry that people don't just let the phone ring 30 times when no one picks up and it doesn't go to voicemail
xp I suppose that would be the logical course of action and the real problem is that voicemail makes me IA.
30 times would be great because then I could stand somewhere other than an echoey bathroom but more than 4 times or to have some visible way of calling them back 0.2 seconds after they rang off to ask what they wanted would have been nice.
― the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link
I've never had a sales cold-call leave voicemail! Voicemail is pretty much the go-to place for people who absolutely need to contact me
― space is deep (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link
Also, I get IA when people call back a number they don't recognize. I guess in absence of voicemail it's something to do? If someone's called my number and I don't know who they are, I have zero interest in doing anything other than deleting them from my call log.
― space is deep (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
At least once a week, I hear over the office intercom, "Who ever paged John David Pringleberry, he's on Line 1."
... and everyone just looks at each other like Who the fuck is John David Pringleberry?
Answer: a guy who will return any page you send to him.
― pplains, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
amazing
― space is deep (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
(Different names each week, not just that one I made up.)
― pplains, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
Eh I hardly ever call back if I don't know the number, but might do so occasionally if I've only just missed the call and it's a local number (so less likely to be marketing or a call centre)
Do most people use their mobile phone voicemail? Don't recall ever going through to voicemail on a friend's personal mobile number, most people I know send a text if they can't get hold of me and presumably would just expect one the other way round. Dunno if this is a UK thing or an age thing or just my group of friends.
― the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
I don't think young people use voicemail? Friends going straight to a text instead of leaving a message is another tip-off for me -- friends will text, actual legitimate calls will leave voicemail, third parties that are neither will leave neither ime
― space is deep (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
I use mobile phone voicemail. I mean, I doubt the bank or the doctor's office or a professional colleague would hang up and then send me a text if they couldn't get in touch with me after dialing my number.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link
It actually strikes me as kind of rude to expect someone to take an extra step to try and get in touch with you if they were already calling? But my mobile is my primary contact number so it's not like I only give it to friends.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
it's my only number, yeah
― space is deep (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link
Do most people use their mobile phone voicemail? Don't recall ever going through to voicemail on a friend's personal mobile number, most people I know send a text if they can't get hold of me and presumably would just expect one the other way round.
People still do call from land lines, e.g., doctors or co-workers, like carl said. Not having a voice mail box at all seems strange to me.
― disgruntled punter (Je55e), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link
Most of my voicemail messages, to friends and family at least, go along the lines of "Hey, it's pp. Gonna just text you instead."
― pplains, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:26 (ten years ago) link
In the UK there is an extra charge to ring your own voicemail so nobody really uses it (on the other hand, our minutes don't get eaten by incoming calls over which we have no control). If I can't reach someone by calling, they get a text and no voicemail.
― aldi young dudes (suzy), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
^ I knew there was a good reason why I didn't use it apart from just hating it!
However, yeah, I am kind of conflating friends and the kind of grey area of non-work non-friend phone calls, which I don't get many of and clearly need a better way of dealing with.
― the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
Oh, I didn't think about minutes. Last time I checked I had 4200 minutes left and I kind of assume unlimited or roll-over minutes are the norm, which I guess they're not.
― disgruntled punter (Je55e), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link
Ahhhh I never thought of minutes/charges, either. Jeff and I have a shared plan with the lowest number of minutes possible and we still don't come anywhere near using them, voicemail or no.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
Our plans tend to be 500-1000 outgoing minutes a month, with unlimited texts and a reasonable amount of interweb.
― aldi young dudes (suzy), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link
thankfully for carl and Jeff, conversing on ilx takes no cell phone minutes
― space is deep (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
It doesn't use up minutes for us to talk to each other.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
i use voicemail if i want to tell someone something funny/impt (that doesn't require follow up) and don't want to waste the time thumb-typing the whole damn thing
― no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link
plus your theatrical performance probably adds to it
― space is deep (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link
i try to only leave quality voicemails
― no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
So I was dimly aware that this was a thing, but I kept brushing it off like, Nah, something else has to be happening here.
But no, it's true: They're making cars now which turn on the reverse lights when you simply stick a key in the ignition?
This... this... what is the point? Why would you want that to happen? Why would you design a car to do that?
It's incredibly selfish and - I wasn't sure this was possible - adds an even more world-revolves-around-me feature to behemoth SUVs. So someone hops into their Yukon 9000 in the parking garage, sticks their key to turn on the AC, fiddle with the satellite radio for five minutes and proceeds to fake out every car coming up behind them?
So now if I'm a car jacker, I wait until I see the reverse lights come on instead of hopping into a vehicle where I don't know where the key is?
Is this really happening?
Apparently it is and can lead to some hilarious confrontations.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
And yet they still can't make a car that automatically switches on the headlights if your windshield wipers are on for more than 10 seconds.
― Domo Arigato, Demi Lovato (Phil D.), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
What are reverse lights?
― i too went to college (silby), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
When you put your car's gear into reverse, special white lights turn on near your brake lights. This is so the driver can see better to where he's backing up and alerts others that the car is about go backwards. Visual representation of that beep-beep-beep signal big trucks have.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
is this a thing on all cars?
― i too went to college (silby), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
Pretty sure they've been around in one form or another since the mid-60s, at least in the US.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
Reverse lights are standard on all cars, but that thing pp described has not been standard, and it's fucked up! It fucks with the universal language of tail lights.
― disgruntled punter (Je55e), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
My job is made up of lots of little jobs and I regularly have to cc other ppl on my emails, so they can keep track of projects they are managing that I am helping out with
I hate hate hate flow-ruiners. a) ppl who receive routine requests emailed by me and do not reply all. unless it's a private convo or it's some kind of incriminating discussion just reply all ffs.
b) people who receive a routine request emailed from me and walk over to give me the answer. yes the art of human conversation has been lost and we should talk to each other more but I need a fucking paper trail and you're ruining it.
idiots
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link