Bernie Taupin Is A Godawful Lyricist Whose Lyrics Sound Amazing Coming Out Of Elton John's Mouth — ILM ARTIST POLL #41: ELTON JOHN

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Note to self, when I have a computer in front of me rather than a phone, write out five-paragraph, line-by-line explanation of why ''Captain Fantastic'' is one of the greatest songs in Elton's catalog.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 August 2013 13:09 (ten years ago) link

I'd be interested to read it, because that song means nothing to me.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 24 August 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link

Consulting my newly purchased book of Billboard Top Ten charts, I note that Captain Fantastic, after debuting at #1 and staying there for six weeks and returning for a seventh about six weeks later, fell out of the top ten at the end of September 1975. In November, Rock of the Westies debuted at #1: by any standards phenomenal productivity and sales figures. No wonder he burned out a year later.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 August 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link

I was going to be all "LOL u bought a book of Billboard charts?! hahah" ...and then I saw it was you. As you were. :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 August 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Elton's new album The Diving Board is out today, lyrics by Bernie, production by T-Bone Burnett, stripped down rhythm section consisting of Jack Ashford of the Funk Brothers on drums and Raphael Saadiq (!) on bass. not amazing or anything but pretty enjoyable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UttbDHa1uSg

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link

Was planning on giving it a spin soon.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link

Barry Walters gives EJ the icon treatment and rather well too:

http://www.emusic.com/music-news/icon/emusic-icon-elton-john/

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"Crocodile Rock"
Don't Shoot Me I'm Only the Piano Player, 1973

Don't Shoot Me I'm Only the Piano Player was my first U.K. Number One album. It had "Daniel," which was pure pop, but there were also songs like "Elderberry Wine" and "Teacher I Need You." And of course it spawned "Crocodile Rock," which was the song that probably changed the critics' opinion of me. It was a really blatant homage to Speedy Gonzales and all the great Fifties and Sixties records that we used to love, like Danny and the Juniors' "At the Hop." My career wasn't about "Crocodile Rock" – it was just a one-off thing – but it became a huge hit record, and in the long run, it became a negative for me, because people said, "Oh, fucking 'Crocodile Rock.' " I'd never started off as a hit writer, and I didn't know what a hit was, and it's evidenced on my first four albums. Rolling Stone reviewed it and gave it two stars, and I said, "Oh, fuck off." It was a great fucking pop record. Shut the fuck up. - haha fair enough

balls, Friday, 11 October 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link

''Speedy Gonzales''?

Doctor Casino, Friday, 11 October 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link

http://youtu.be/O4HT51a4VHY

balls, Friday, 11 October 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link

haha wow that is really blatant

Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 October 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link

That is an awful, awful song. But wow re: the Elton connection.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 13 October 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

i wish there was an audio version of this interview in which scarface recites some classic bernie taupin lyrics.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 7 May 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

Oh, and Speedy Gonzales to Bruce Springsteen, also.

Mark G, Friday, 8 May 2015 13:44 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Finally digging into Blue Moves after ages of dismissing it based on the cover art and not knowing any of the songs, figured it would just be a wash of faceless dreary ballads. But actually there's some rockin' here, and some really cool arrangements and musical surprises. It's very very well-recorded, for sure. Still getting to know it so I can't call out any specific moments, but I kinda think it's at least better than Caribou as a listening experience, even though it's nearly twice as long, largely underwritten (so many instrumentals!) and lacks that album's two big hits (both true grab-you-by-the-ears standouts). I dunno, it just seems less stupid.

If the same material had just been worked on longer, filling out the instrumentals as memorable songs in themselves, who knows what might have been? It came out one year after Rock of the Westies, also an album with some problems; if he'd been on a 1990s release schedule, the best material from those two together could have yielded a platter at least as good as Honky Chateau or Don't Shoot Me.... Just need to do something about the sleeves...

Doctor Casino, Monday, 26 September 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

I never enjoyed recording studios! I loved the process of writing, but I never enjoyed the process of being in the studio. I always felt like a caged lion

--bernie taupin

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 22:50 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

RFI: With search engine disabled, can't seem to find the thread the title quote is from

Got Your Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2017 19:01 (seven years ago) link

it was the elton john voting thread and it was my quote and i can't seem to find it either. but if i had a copy editor, it would've been shortened to "bernie taupin writes godawful lyrics that sound amazing coming out of elton john's mouth."

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 19 March 2017 22:07 (seven years ago) link

It might be on the voting thread, but he first time you said it was about a decade ago.

Got Your Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2017 22:14 (seven years ago) link

Found it: Elton John

Got Your Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 March 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link

Hang the fuck on, did 'Song for Guy' not place!?

Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Saturday, 25 March 2017 02:11 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

The worst Elton John mega single.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 03:27 (six years ago) link

nine months pass...

No room for Captain Fantastic.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 02:49 (five years ago) link

^^^ baffling!

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:29 (five years ago) link

(i'd put it #1, is all)

got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:30 (five years ago) link

I really like Crocodile Rock :(

My dad is a big Elton John fan and I loved that song when I was like 6. Ditto for the Lion King soundtrack songs, I grew up listening to those. I just can’t actively hate them. I don’t really listen to them anymore but I don’t think they are his worst. Candle in the Wind is really bad though, kudos on that one.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:46 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

OTM about 'Your Song', I'm seriously fucking sick of hearing it at this stage.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 22 April 2019 00:54 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

elton on bernie:

He comes from the wilds of Lincolnshire, I come from the suburbs of London. He lives in Santa Barbara and he’s literally won competitions for roping cattle. I collect antique porcelain and the only way you’d get me on the back of a horse is at gunpoint. Neither of us can write if the other is in the room. But there’s a weird bond between us that I felt the minute I opened the envelope – I could just write music to his words straight away, without even thinking about it – and it’s lasted over 50 years.

("the envelope" referring to a guy at liberty records in london randomly handing elton an envelope full of bernie lyrics in 1967.)

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 04:52 (four years ago) link

what a great piece

had no interest in seeing this but if herself is on board then I’ll give it a gander

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 05:35 (four years ago) link

Taron Egerton and Alden Ehrenreich are the same guy, right?

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 06:07 (four years ago) link

i think so yes

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

r.i.p. Caribou, you deserved better

feeling this post today. not mentioned anywhere in this thread: the gorgeous "pinky." such a perfectly arranged/played/recorded chorus. i want to take a bubble bath in it. the lyrics are classic bernie, the chorus consisting of four lines that defy you to guess what they have to do with each other. but the last bit of the last verse is killing me right now: "oh it's ten below zero / and we're about / to abandon / our plans for the day." i wish i voted for it.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 00:30 (four years ago) link

I thought I did mention it?!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 01:02 (four years ago) link

hmm, maybe on the voting thread?

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 03:49 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

I thought of the Elton poll crew watching his highness shuffle around the stage tonight for the farewell

did anyone else tune in? his band is so good

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 November 2022 07:29 (one year ago) link


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