Bernie Taupin Is A Godawful Lyricist Whose Lyrics Sound Amazing Coming Out Of Elton John's Mouth — ILM ARTIST POLL #41: ELTON JOHN

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you're giving Bowie too much credit for depth

it's funny that Elton sort of followed Bowie through the glam to philly soul to new wave transition, I have a hard time believing that Elton wasn't taking notes. but that doesn't mean I think Bowie has all that much more depth. I don't have a hard time at all believing that Bowie is more well read, or admitting that I'm just more biased towards his sources (Burroughs etc.) and that makes a lot of his songs more interesting to me. Kind of a toss-up between who's a better piano player - Elton's better at the Jerry Lee Lewis/American school of piano playing, but I haven't heard anything in this thread that reaches the compositional heights of "Life on Mars", for example.

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

Bowie barely plays piano; it's Mick Ronson or Mike Garson on the glam stuff.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link

btw when I meant depth I didn't have their biographies or reading lists.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link

09. "I'm Still Standing" (1983) [371 points, 15 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHwVBirqD2s

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

This is a good 'un

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link

The last great Elton John single

Lee626, Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link

*have = mean

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link

The last great Elton John single

― Lee626,

last great Elton single is the NEXT single from this album.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link

well I am displaying a bias there in that ime musicians who read a lot tend to write better, that's what I was getting at. who knows wtf Taupin reads.

(apparently it's Wakeman playing piano on the album version of Life on Mars! Bowie wrote it on the piano though, according to that bowiesongs blog, and yes I was thinking primarily of the piano songs on Hunky Dory)

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link

xp - that one got my vote too

Lee626, Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

maybe should have added "that was a huge hit"

Lee626, Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link

I thought "I Want Love" was pretty great.

sup (billstevejim), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link

"Your Song"
Effective vocal here, feel like this is as good as his piano balladry gets. Plaintive and relatively simple, restraint goes a long way sometimes.

"I'm Still Standing"
this is the one single of his that has always really stood out to me, catchy as hell, and I remember hearing it/seeing the video as a kid. Later on as an adult the "living through the AIDS crisis" subtext of this song became more obvious, giving the song some shading and emotional heft I had previously missed. The shift from the major key in the verse to the minor in the choruses is great, a v old school trick put to good use. synth patches don't overrun the arrangement, fuzz guitar break pops in and out like it should. good shit.

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link

love love I'm Still Standing. And it's kinda danceable too which is nice for the last exciting gasp that this album was/is.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

good karaoke tune too

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link

and I know 'Your Song' is corny as all get-out but I love it and I think this is a time when Taupin is mercifully straightforward and plainspoken and it works very well for me

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link

08. "Levon" (1971) [448 points, 21 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9eCVXKr4t4

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link

YES

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link

glad to see that "A Word in Spanish" is gonna beat that dog of a song

Euler, Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link

This song always puts me in a cool mood.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link

I voted for this, surprised to see it has so many fans though

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link

07. "Heartache All Over The World" (1971) [450 points, 2235 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh2hkTzcT7c

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link

haha!

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link

the kind of surprises that makes ILX polling a glorious place

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link

omg I didn't even end up voting for it but I'm SO happy that it placed high. childhood nostalgia etc

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link

2235 votes
is this a joke?

sup (billstevejim), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link

wtf song is this

sup (billstevejim), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link

TOKYO TO ROME

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link

oh wait it's a joke.

sup (billstevejim), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link

damn you kids

sup (billstevejim), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link

GIRLS. GIRLS. GIRLS

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link

the mid eighties were a sober, reflective time for the happily married Elton

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link

Always loved "Levon"'s (slightly disguised) reference to this:

http://www.conversantlife.com/files/imagecache/blog_wizard/files/blog_wizard/Is+God+Dead%3F.jpg

clemenza, Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link

The real #7...

07. "I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues" (1983) [452 points, 17 votes, 2 first place votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6KYAVn8ons

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

Confession: my #1. I adore this song: he's so confident he knows which syllables to stress vs throw away.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

This was def one of the tracks I was juggling around for my own #1.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

I saw a clip recently in which he changed the line to "Never forget you're my man."

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link

I didn't vote for this, but I've come round since I put my ballot in. Beautiful song.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link

and of course the Stevie Wonder harmonica

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link

and those descending melody lines ("Laughing like children/living like lovers/rolling like THUNDER")

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link

harmonica is a really beautiful bow on an already beautiful song

time on my hands
could be time spent with you

so lovely

Johnny Fever you're kinda mean for trolling me with Heartache All Over The World ;_;

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link

yeah Fever

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link

Alfred did it!

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link

TOKYO TO ROME

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link

clearly I can't read

Alfred you are dead to me

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link

like Godd?

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link

I really should have ranked this higher on my ballot. Great song.

Lee626, Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link

xpost I don't know what that means

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link

YOU'RE A JERK IS WHAT I'M SAYING

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link

Levon/Time cover/Alfred being dead 2 u

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link


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