https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBj_uN7j1MQ
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Thursday, 22 August 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
http://holdenweb.blogspot.com/2013/08/bradley-mannings-post-sentencing.html
― c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 22 August 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
@DennisThePerrin "Ewww! Mom! Dad! Now I have a terrorist name!" -- Chelsea Clinton
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 August 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link
chelsea clinton is 33 years old
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 22 August 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link
same age as Jesus
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
woke up it was a chelsea manning
― Mordy , Thursday, 22 August 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
I christen thee n/p for 'no point'
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 August 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
the point is it's a terrible joke, bc why would a 33-year-old woman say "Ewww! Mom! Dad!"? also why would chelsea clinton care if she has a terrorist name? it's one of those things that looks like a joke but there's not really a joke other than that there are two people named chelsea
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
btw i still have no idea who dennis perrin is or why you think people should care what he says about stuff
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link
"Ewww! Mom! Dad! Now my band has a terrorist name!" -- Thurston Moore of Chelsea Light Moving
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link
The joke is her dad was a fucking terrorist, and she'll be a legacy politician like Mom.
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
you know what's fucking stupid? that. on every level. come on, you're capable of much better.
― maven maven (Matt P), Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
honestly not sure who you're talking to there
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
dr morbius
― maven maven (Matt P), Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
cool. i am not capable of much better than this.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
it's funny cuz the Clintons are all cunts. Get it now?
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
charming
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:00 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink is it?
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
oh I get it
― crüt, Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
Thing is, with added encryption, I don't think the NSA can crack RSA yet. *knock on wood*
Lots of talk at the BlackHat conference this year about how RSA is going to fall sooner rather than later. Also, you should be using at least 2048 bit keys for everything.
The encryption systems used to secure online bank accounts and keep critical communications private could be undone in just a few years, security researchers warned at the Black Hat conference in Las Vegas yesterday. Breakthroughs in math research made in the past six months could underpin practical, fast ways to decode encrypted data that’s considered unbreakable today.Alex Stamos, chief technology officer of the online security company Artemis, led a presentation describing how he and three other security researchers studied recent publications from the insular world of academic cryptopgraphy research, which covers trends in attacking common encryption schemes.“Our conclusion is there is a small but definite chance that RSA and classic Diffie-Hellman will not be usable for encryption purposes in four to five years,” said Stamos, referring to the two most commonly used encryption methods.Any hints that those methods could be undermined must be taken seriously, said Stamos. They are used to protect banking, online commerce, and e-mail, as well as the mechanisms that ensure that updates downloaded by operating systems such as Windows and OSX are genuine. The result of the two encryption methods being broken would be, said Stamos, “a total failure of trust on the Internet.”RSA and Diffie-Hellman encryption are both underpinned by a mathematical challenge known as the discrete logarithm problem. That problem is computationally difficult to solve, ensuring that encrypted data can only be decoded quickly with knowledge of the secret key used to encode it in the first place. Breaking RSA or Diffie-Hellman encryption today requires using vast computing resources for significant periods of time.However, it is possible that algorithms able to solve the discrete logarithm problem quickly could exist. “We rely on that efficient algorithm not being found,” said Jarved Samuel, a cryptographer who works for security consultancy ISEC Partners and presented alongside Stamos. “If it is found the cryptosystem is broken.”Earlier this year, French academic Antoine Joux published two papers that suggest such an algorithm could be found before long. “This is a big deal, since there was marginal progress for 25 years,” said Samuel. “This will spur researchers into looking more closely at the problem and most likely result in more progress.”
Alex Stamos, chief technology officer of the online security company Artemis, led a presentation describing how he and three other security researchers studied recent publications from the insular world of academic cryptopgraphy research, which covers trends in attacking common encryption schemes.
“Our conclusion is there is a small but definite chance that RSA and classic Diffie-Hellman will not be usable for encryption purposes in four to five years,” said Stamos, referring to the two most commonly used encryption methods.
Any hints that those methods could be undermined must be taken seriously, said Stamos. They are used to protect banking, online commerce, and e-mail, as well as the mechanisms that ensure that updates downloaded by operating systems such as Windows and OSX are genuine. The result of the two encryption methods being broken would be, said Stamos, “a total failure of trust on the Internet.”
RSA and Diffie-Hellman encryption are both underpinned by a mathematical challenge known as the discrete logarithm problem. That problem is computationally difficult to solve, ensuring that encrypted data can only be decoded quickly with knowledge of the secret key used to encode it in the first place. Breaking RSA or Diffie-Hellman encryption today requires using vast computing resources for significant periods of time.
However, it is possible that algorithms able to solve the discrete logarithm problem quickly could exist. “We rely on that efficient algorithm not being found,” said Jarved Samuel, a cryptographer who works for security consultancy ISEC Partners and presented alongside Stamos. “If it is found the cryptosystem is broken.”
Earlier this year, French academic Antoine Joux published two papers that suggest such an algorithm could be found before long. “This is a big deal, since there was marginal progress for 25 years,” said Samuel. “This will spur researchers into looking more closely at the problem and most likely result in more progress.”
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
wait waht. Diffie-Hellman is about discrete log. RSA is integer factorization. Later on the article acknowledges that RSA "relies less directly on the discrete log problem". Another article I read states more honestly "history as has shown that advances in the discrete log problem are followed by advances in factorization."
if yr interested in cryptosystems that could be resilient to large advances in the problems we now rely on, this is a good place to start: http://pqcrypto.org/
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Friday, 23 August 2013 03:23 (ten years ago) link
Goddamnit, this is where I curse I didn't take any of the higher pay-grade/non-physics-related math classes in college...
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 03:29 (ten years ago) link
yeah I think I'll go ahead and try to learn something about elliptic curves before I start worrying about scalable quantum computing being achieved
― i too went to college (silby), Friday, 23 August 2013 05:26 (ten years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/1983/03/27/magazine/the-silent-power-of-the-nsa.html?smid=fb-share
― balls, Friday, 23 August 2013 05:37 (ten years ago) link
feel like the endgame here is the NSA's eventual symbolic dismantlement and transplantation into the other agencies, all of which presumably want some of the treasure.
― i too went to college (silby), Friday, 23 August 2013 05:42 (ten years ago) link
(talking out my ass of c.)
― i too went to college (silby), Friday, 23 August 2013 05:43 (ten years ago) link
ssa will be dismantled before nsa
http://theweek.com/article/index/248653/nsa-where-the-debate-breaks-down
― balls, Friday, 23 August 2013 05:50 (ten years ago) link
NZ police affidavits show use of PRISM for surveillance - apparently PRISM was used prior to the Kim Dotcom raid
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 08:33 (ten years ago) link
Groklaw shuts down too
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 08:42 (ten years ago) link
Massive public dislike/outcry abt recent passing of bill increasing/cementing those powers here (New Zealand) btw, to no avail
― albvivertine, Friday, 23 August 2013 09:07 (ten years ago) link
Looks like the UK Govt or the Independent are pulling some shenanigans.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/23/uk-government-independent-military-base
― oscar, Friday, 23 August 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
Didn't somebody have dinner with somebody else and Stephen Fry earlier in the week, ostensibly to talk about Russian homophobia?
― aldi young dudes (suzy), Friday, 23 August 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/style-blog/wp/2013/08/21/fbi-suspected-william-vollmann-was-the-unabomber/
The celebrated writer William Vollmann has revealed that the FBI once thought he might be the Unabomber, the anthrax mailer and a terrorist training with the Afghan mujahideen.
In the September issue of Harper’s magazine, Vollmann describes the alarming and ludicrous contents of his 785-page secret government file, 294 pages of which he obtained after suing the FBI and CIA under the Freedom of Information Act. Spiked with sarcasm directed at what he sees as the agencies’ arrogance, presumptuousness and ineptitude, his Harper’s essay, “Life As a Terrorist,” is inflamed with moral outrage at the systemic violation of his privacy. “I begin to see how government haters are made,” he writes.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 23 August 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
Ya, lots of news lately. Been reading the articles but had not had time to post on here.
Here is another one fresh off the press: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/23/nsa-prism-costs-tech-companies-paid
Not sure if it's been posted yet. If so, my apologies.
Seems like my WWW use has become increasingly narrow. Has anyone else's? Thinking it might change/go back to the way it was over time, though.
― c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 23 August 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
anybody following the whole independent vs. snowden/greenwald thing
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 23 August 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
confusing
independent thing smells like a set-up. release 'damming' information that has shades of benghazi, make false claims about the guardian's journalism, report 'controversy' over leaks being dangerous to the public, and on top of that, retail this weird story about how the information miranda was carrying could be injurious to public safety.
so its all a one-sided story _plus_ it has "new" information.
it sources that to "the leaked documents obtained from the NSA by Edward Snowden". But the fact that this information was _in_ the leaked documents probably came to the independent via a government source, which mainly wanted to provide background on how 'dangerous' the leak was overall.
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Friday, 23 August 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link
well and snowden has denied ever giving anything to them which uh
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 23 August 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
oh sorry didn't read you very carefully there duh
There is currently a room full of very smart individuals working 24/7 figuring out ways to erode or topple Snowden/Greenwald's effect on the public consciousness. The Independent thing is just the tip of the iceberg.
― oscar, Friday, 23 August 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
Still hoping for some opinions on this thread: VPN providers S/D
(obv. VPN isn't NSA-proof, but am interested in slowing things down at least)
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
Anonymity on the Web is really hard. I have my own thoughts on it, but nothing you can't find out with a simple Google search. Sorry for the non-answer. It's Friday and I'm feeling a bit burnt out.
In the meantime, have you seen this? https://panopticlick.eff.org/
― c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 23 August 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 3,308,511 tested so far.
Interesting. And this is with JS, Java, Flash all off and w/ad blocking on.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
The fonts you have installed also are a big unique-factor.
There are so many things, which I guess can be like meta info, which is used to ID you.
― c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
their FAQ says 85% of visitors are unique (altho the rate is falling as more data is collected). i'd read abt that font list trick for identifying a user before; i guess graphic designers must be more trackable than the average person
― 1staethyr, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
+ apparently it's not just the fonts u have installed but the order in which the list is returned, which reflects node order
― 1staethyr, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
ugh
― Z S, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/cass-sunstein-nsa-appointment-082213
Eeks
― curmudgeon, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
Charles Pierce allows Jeffrey Toobin space on his blog to respond (and, yes, buy Toobin's book on the 2000 election).
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 August 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link
toobin's nuremberg outrage really was the most revealingly bonkers shit. basically: suggesting that the international law adopted after ww2 was intended to apply to america = calling americans nazis. that stuff's for people who need it! meanwhile, this opening graf where i actually do directly compare edward snowden to JAMES EARL FUCKING RAY is just a thought-provoking historical analogy; we are all adults here.
― one yankee sympathizer masquerading as a historian (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 24 August 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link