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if only there were sports in the olympics that werent gymnastics

max, Thursday, 8 August 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link

the olympics are the worst but the winter olympics are fine

The concept of making the Zuiderzee docile (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 8 August 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link

We're good at curling

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 August 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link

k max, I consider frilly dresses and other skating outfits to be in the unitard "family"

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 August 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link

national anthems + curious standard of "accomplishment."

same standard humanity's had since the dawn of civilization: tests of endurance, strength, flexibility, strategy...

i mean the olympics are a lot of BS in many ways but when you break it down to the essentials it's hard not to be fascinated, unless you are completely numbed/deadened i guess

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 8 August 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link

the winter olympics is preferable to summer because its less of the 'lets just show butts' festival that nbc puts on in the summer

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 8 August 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

humans have enjoyed butts since even before the dawn of civilization, tho

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 8 August 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link

it's easy not to be fascinated by a quadrennial tarted-up clusterfuck that has room for ppl jumping over things on horses, but not baseball.

"deadened," man, better than being wished dead i guess

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

i thought baseball was in?

if it's not, i can see why not tho. not enough countries! cricket ain't in there either.

R'LIAH (goole), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link

They voted it out in 2005.

Here's the storify, of a lovely ladify (Phil D.), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link

people jumping over things on horses is pretty cool, wish they would speed it up a bit tho

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link

TANK!

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

lol you got caught being a straight republican instead of just a libertarian, just own up and move on already

― balls, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


I'm not too familiar with US republicanism, but my political ideology does include some conservative trends. But I don't get it, am I supposed to be hiding this? I don't think my views align with those of a libertarian.

In Los Angeles, I don't recall there being enough black people for them to stand out in my memory.

― c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 7:14 PM

― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


Grammar/orthography, right? I don't see any mistakes on there. Is this just a habit you have of quoting random people for no apparent reason?

it's one thing to link to a bunch of articles about TSA employees being corrupt/whatever

it's another to say you can guess what "type" of people they are just by looking at them. i mean what do you glean by looking at them other than gender/race/weight and the fact that they are working a shitty, low-paying job? i mean, yeah, you can probably surmise that they weren't born with silver spoons in their mouths b/c they are, after all, working a shitty job. but beyond that...?

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


Wait, when did I say guess? I said "have you seen the type of people who work" at the TSA? And I stick to that comment. But this obviously needs clarification because there is a huge misunderstanding, from reading everyone else's replies.

First, let me make sure I understand what you're saying. You're criticising me for making an assumption about these people, but by doing so, you yourself are making an assumption about me with just a couple of lines over an Internet forum. Um...is this some type of joke? Let's put that aside for now, though.

I am not judging the TSA by "looking at them". I am judging them by how they treat me, their approach, their tone, demeanour, mannerisms. Do I really have to say that this is a human element all of us do? And when I say "type", I mean "poor work ethic". I'm in the strange position of being able to offer negative anecdotal experience but cannot because it is too personal. But suffice it to say that I know people who have been treated poorly by the TSA, including myself, on various occasions, including some who were involved in getting banned from the US, and another who flies twice a week for two years. All of us have experience flying into or through the US. And actually, I wouldn't even be able to surmise that these people weren't born with silver spoons. You seem determined to make this about race, which I'll get to in a minute. My comment was a reference to their attitude and professional work ethic. You can have poor work ethic regardless of the colour of your skin. I would never make a comment like the one I did were it not for strong evidence of the TSA's corruption. But with first-hand and anecdotal experience plus the numbers, I feel I can do so.

With regard to US race issues, I can only view it from the perspective of a foreigner who has travelled in and through the US. Notice this isn't the race thread. I do not pretend to understand the nuances of race in American life. In fact, a lot of it leaves me perplexed, to be honest with you. I am not American and do not think I have the acuteness or sensitivity to speak to racism in America, because I have not lived here all my life.

I feel like we're talking across from each other. Or we're having separate arguments.

I love your country and multiculturalism. It is one of many things I love about living in Los Angeles. Each city/country has its pros and cons, though, and I was simply highlighting something that had already been proven to be the case. I was not trying to make a controversial commentary on race in doublespeak. Again, I don't think I understand enough of race dynamics in the US to do so, so if I ever do talk about it, I'd probably tread carefully and approach it from a "learner's/beginner's" point of view, if that makes sense.

c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9287652/images/gifs/getout.gif

max, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

But anyway, the reason I came in looking for this thread, was because of this little gem:

http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/05/technology/social/snowden-vkontakte/

So, Snowden has been offered a job at VKontakte, the Russian social networking site.

c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link

i will say i scanned past all those paragraphs and then my eyes fell on "I love your country" and I lol'd irl

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link

^

blinded by aggro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, it sounds trite, but it is true :)

c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link

"mansplain"

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link

otm

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link

the olympics are incredible, good grief

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 8 August 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

and i don't even like sports

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 8 August 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

EXACTLY

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 August 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link

haha

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link

otm

blinded by aggro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 August 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link

hahaha love the olympics (though yeah fuck american coverage and not just cuz dumb time delays and bio sketches) but if we boycott one definitely let it be a winter olympics, some real sketchy symbolism w/ the winter olympics period.

balls, Thursday, 8 August 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link

here we go

balls, Thursday, 8 August 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link

lol this georgia shit again

R'LIAH (goole), Thursday, 8 August 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link

(not you balls)

R'LIAH (goole), Thursday, 8 August 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link

dudes sure do miss the good old cold war days huh

waterface down (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 August 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link

who will direct the cold war reboot

maven with rockabilly glasses (Matt P), Thursday, 8 August 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

michael bay duh

blinded by aggro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 August 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link

im guessing that fred thompson has a lot of free time on his hands these days, time to expand his role in the entertainment industry

waterface down (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 August 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link

if we boycott one definitely let it be a winter olympics, some real sketchy symbolism w/ the winter olympics period.

yeah

max, Thursday, 8 August 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link

http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/8/4602966/email-service-used-by-edward-snowden-abruptly-shuts-down-to-avoid

― i too went to college (silby), Thursday, August 8, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


Argh. This is such an 0v32234ch.

c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 8 August 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link

looks like a 4602966 to me

blinded by aggro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 August 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link

I kissed NSA and I liked it

breastcrawl, Thursday, 8 August 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link

Nothing can backfire with this plan, right.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Friday, 9 August 2013 02:43 (ten years ago) link

can we plz install a lockbox outside the door there

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 9 August 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-to-announce-proposals-to-reform-nsa-surveillance/2013/08/09/ee3d6762-011a-11e3-9711-3708310f6f4d_story.html?hpid=z1

Obama at press conference expressing support for some changes while still claiming Snowden could have contested procedures here as a whistleblower

curmudgeon, Friday, 9 August 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link

http://preview.reuters.com/2013/8/9/nsa-to-cut-system-administrators-by-90-percent-to

― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Thursday, August 8, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


Yah, I was reading this. It will be very interesting to see where these ex-NSA employees go next and what they do with their previous work experience knowledge. I was looking at Intelligence people's resumes on LinkedIn who specifically included XKeyscore on their profiles and they don't shy away from detailing their duties. But it sounds reasonable if many of them edit their profiles after more revelations hint at what exactly some of them were doing.

Still, I'm not sure letting go of 90% of their sysadmins is anywhere close to the right solution. Like I said, it'll be interesting to see what these people will do with their knowledge when they look for work elsewhere.

c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 9 August 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/09/lavabit-shutdown-snowden-silicon-valley

One of the most remarkable, and I think enduring, aspects of the NSA stories is how much open defiance there has been of the US government. Numerous countries around the world have waved away threats, from Hong Kong and Russia to multiple Latin American nations. Populations around the world are expressing serious indignation at the NSA and at their own government to the extent they have collaborated. And now Lavabit has shut itself down rather than participate in what it calls "crimes against the American people", and in doing so, has gone to the legal limits in order to tell us all what has happened. There will undoubtedly be more acts inspired by Snowden's initial choice to unravel his own life to make the world aware of what the US government has been doing in the dark.

c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 9 August 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link

the automization of a lot of grunt work was probably happening anyway

The concept of making the Zuiderzee docile (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 9 August 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link

*automatization*

The concept of making the Zuiderzee docile (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 9 August 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link


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