SPIN Top 40 Of 2003

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Matos, Mr. #1 ListMan, I'm interested in your general thoughts. (Not kidding at all.) I've always really really enjoyed Charles Aaron's writing, but lists in general are wonky.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:58 (twenty years ago) link

haha Jeanne it'll have to wait because I'm editing you right now!

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:58 (twenty years ago) link

As a sometimes defender of Ryan Adams, I have to say that album is atrocious.

bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 20:58 (twenty years ago) link

The Dizzee Rascal pick is actually pretty interesting, considering the album won't be released in the U.S. until 2004.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:01 (twenty years ago) link

I'm interested, Matos, because, seriously, this year didn't excite me much, and the list above re-assures me in my "eh"-ness. Christ, what the f* is up with rock? Don't get me started on punk. Okay, now go back to editing me.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:04 (twenty years ago) link

As a psychic intelligence network, SPIN can look into the future to gather information. Look at Chuck Klosterman's predictions for 2004 to see what I'm talking about. I believe he is one of their most talented operatives.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:04 (twenty years ago) link

(Which reminds me, I'm curious to see how the Notwist are going to fare on lists this year, seeing as how quite a few people ranked the import on their 2002 lists and others may ultimately consider it a 2002 album.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:04 (twenty years ago) link

Jealous Sound is the only band on there that I've never actually HEARD OF, though I have no idea what some of those (other?) emo bands sound like. Here are the ones that I had no idea anybody cared about:

39 The Jealous Sound "Kill Them With Kindness"
36 The Thrills "So Much For The City"
35 Brand New "Deja Entendu"
31 Spiritualized "Amazing Grace"
22 Pretty Girls Make Graves "The New Romance"
16 Blur "Think Tank"
11 Metallica "St. Anger"
07 Thursday "War All The Time"
Jane's Addiction "Just Because" (which I don't think I've ever heard)
19 T Rumschmiere "Monstertruckdriver"
12 The Donnas "Take It Off" (fine, but just another Donnas track, I thought -- was this actually a hit or something? I must've missed it.)

I like that Rumschmiere album myself, though damned if I could tell you what its "single" sounds like. Most pleasant surprise on both lists, I think, is Joe Budden. But where the hell are Lil Jon and the East Side Boyz, David Banner, Ying Yang Twins, the Youngbloodz, Turk and/or any Southern hip-hop at all beyond Outkast and Bubba Sparxx, in what was probably crunk's biggest and best year ever??? How odd.

I have nothing against AFI, who are kind of catchy in a goofy way.

chuck, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:06 (twenty years ago) link

Also in the issue:

Top 10 Reissues

10 The Moles "On The Street/Rare & Weird"
09 Television "Marquee Moon"
08 Aphex Twin "26 Mixes For Cash"
07 Miles Davis "The Complete Jack Johnson Sessions"
06 The Allman Brothers Band "Live At Fillmore East"
05 New Order "Retro"
04 Neil Young "On The Beach," "American Stars & Bars"
03 Talking Heads "Once In A Lifetime" (box set)
02 Bjork "Live Box"
01 Led Zeppelin "How The West Was Won"

Band of the Year: Coldplay

Revival of the Year: Women rock the main stage (Distillers, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Donnas)

Trend of the Year: "Mainstreamo"

The Rest Of The Best

Eccentric Geniuses of the Year: Outkast

Video of the Year: Johnny Cash "Hurt"

Best Anti-Corporate Rant of the Year: Conor Oberst disses Clearchannel

Class-Action Suit of the Year: Fans sue Creed for sucking.

Movie of the Year: School of Rock

Live Band of the Year: Metallica

TV Show of the Year: Punk'd

DJ of the Year: You (iPod)

Most Desperate Grab For Relevance (Or: Weirdest Children's Book Promo: Madonna/Britney kiss at the MTV awards.

Surgical Footage of the Year: Jack White's broken finger.

Pet Rock of the Year: Friendster

Credibility Move of the Year: Justin Timberlake

Flops of the Year: Smash Mouth "Get The Picture," Robbie Williams "Escapology" (US sales only), Fischerspooner "#1," Everclear "Slow Motion Daydream," Live "Birds of Prey," Sugar Ray "In The Pursuit of Liesure," Third Eye Blind "Out of the Vein"

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:07 (twenty years ago) link

I was hoping the iPod would make album of the year a la "Your Hard Drive" in 2000, but nope.

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:08 (twenty years ago) link

Haha, except for Robbie Williams and Fischerspooner, those "Flops of the Year" read like "These bands were popular in 1997. How dare they continue putting out albums!"

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:09 (twenty years ago) link

WTF with EVERYONE snubbing Ween's Quebec? Not just SPIN.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:09 (twenty years ago) link

I like 27 of the records on this list (I haven't heard some and that 27 is taking you crazies' word on Dizee Rascal)

I think pretty much all of those singles are good songs, except for the couple I haven't heard.

Now, maybe this aren't THE BEST records of the year but that's not a bad batting average.

I think Pretty Girls Make Graves is the sellout emo punksters that bring the John Hughes soundtrack noise for Hot Topic kidz. That album grew on me alot.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:09 (twenty years ago) link

I haven't heard that PGMG album, but I liked the first one a lot. Still a little surprising to see them on the list, though, since I don't seem to recall their move to Matador being accompanied by much hype at all. I mean, I saw more ink spilled on their debut for Lookout! But I also don't read SPIN.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:12 (twenty years ago) link

I'm just curious why two of the singles ("Lose Yourself" and "No One Knows") came out last year (and have the same guitar riff, wtf?!), a la the White Stripes' winning Album of the Year in '02 for an '01 release. or as C. Klosterman puts it, "for the third time in three years, [Jack White] and his fake sister have unleashed the best record on earth." Yeah, and two of those times were with the same album!

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:15 (twenty years ago) link

Spin's operatives' psychic implants sometime malfunction, causing them to confuse time streams.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:17 (twenty years ago) link

Didn't they try to pull a "well, it was released on a major label in 2002" with White Blood Cells last year? They certainly can't say that about Eminem or the Queens of the Stone Age.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:18 (twenty years ago) link

12 The Donnas "Take It Off" (fine, but just another Donnas track, I thought -- was this actually a hit or something? I must've missed it.)

Yeah, Chuck, it was their big hit -- video for it and all. They had a second single, but it didn't do much.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:18 (twenty years ago) link

but the Donnas record was '02 as well! fuck, that's three!

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:21 (twenty years ago) link

and timberlake

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:24 (twenty years ago) link

and nas

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:24 (twenty years ago) link

but "Cry Me a River" was an '03 single from an '02 album--I don't think that's true of the Donnas song.

and, yeah, Nas, duh--I forgot about that. gimme a fucking break!

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

2002 is the new 2003.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

actually, "cry me a river" was released as a single in december of last year (it was on my p&j ballot). it's totally fine for spin to list it, but it's another example.

and the missy record only made the list cuz they EXPECTED to like it, which is lame.

on the whole the spin list didn't bother me. even though the blender one is better.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:26 (twenty years ago) link

and i like spin, i do, but that whole fred durst article? fucking weak!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:27 (twenty years ago) link

and andy greenwald, i love you too, but you know yr allowed to write about non-emo bands, rite?

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:27 (twenty years ago) link

"That record had terrible reviews, it had no hits, and as far as I can tell, most of Metallica's fans didn't really care about it. "

Oddly enough, it got good to great reviews in all the big mags (RS,Spin, & Blender), which I feel means that once again, rock crit has its oversized head placed up it's much more oversized ass waaaaaayyyyy too far.

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:27 (twenty years ago) link

you can put any track, regardless of its single-release status, on your P&J ballot, though.

I'm 3/4 through Andy Greenwald's book; it's terrific.

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:28 (twenty years ago) link

i'll get around to reading it eventually. it's just funny tho, cuz when i read blender or spin i don't even need to see a classification on the band -- if he's got the byline, i know what it is!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:30 (twenty years ago) link

Is that Andy Greenwald book out? I tried to find it but couldn't, and my mother, who works in a bookstore, couldn't find it either.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:31 (twenty years ago) link

yes, it's out.

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:31 (twenty years ago) link

(oh man, major x-post)

Matos -- "Lose Yourself" and "Cry Me a River" both at least have the benefit of being released in late 2002. ("Lose Yourself" didn't come down from #1 until February; "Cry Me a River" peaked around the same time.) But they can't even make excuses for the QOTSA song!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:31 (twenty years ago) link

or the Nas song

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:31 (twenty years ago) link

Who wants to bet that Guided By Voices end up on the Magnet best of list?

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:32 (twenty years ago) link

("major x-post" because I was trying to track down chart data, dammit! I thought I was safe in throwing out all my Xeroxed Hot 100s from 1991-93 a few years ago, but not if Billboard keeps all of that to themselves!)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:34 (twenty years ago) link

Charles, that's a foregone conclusion!

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:34 (twenty years ago) link

The GBV greatest hits disc deserves to, it's all (or most) of the GBV you'll ever need in one easy-to-swallow dose.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:35 (twenty years ago) link

easy-to-swallow

Cue Matos retort ... now.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:35 (twenty years ago) link

Fischerspooner also was 02. Mid 02.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:36 (twenty years ago) link

Cue Matos retort ... now.

I know, I'm pitching underhand right now.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:37 (twenty years ago) link

oh, I'll let that one slide, but thanks for thinking of me! :-)

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:37 (twenty years ago) link

I bought the Fischerspooner record in early 2001 after hearing it as part of an installation at PS1. I'm not bragging, though. I'm not really crazy about it aside from two of the songs.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:38 (twenty years ago) link

but Fischerspooner didn't come out in the U.S. till '03, by which time its potential star had sunk pretty frickin' low anyway....

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:38 (twenty years ago) link

(Jeanne, check yr email)

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:38 (twenty years ago) link

I think it(Fischerspooner) came out twice. It got launched in the UK first, and flopped. Then it launched in the US, and flopped.

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:39 (twenty years ago) link

sounds right to me!

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:41 (twenty years ago) link

Not to be a party pooper, but why do so many people on here always worry so much about The Exact Year That Records Came Out? Isn't it obvious that lots of records might not hit you until a few months AFTER they come out? Which is why literal release dates don't matter in Pazz and Jop; also, if your deadline was October last year, you'd automatically miss stuff that came out in the two months after that, right? I mean, I have no love for Spin, and couldn't care less about defending them, but this kinda thing always just seems NITPICKY to me.

chuck, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:42 (twenty years ago) link

I never understood why they didn't just make the Fischerspooner guys record a new album and hope for a single rather than push an album which quite obviously had nothing that was going to be a radio/MTV hit.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:42 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, it's really weird to keep trying to release the same set of 10 songs three or four years in a row. Aside from the Kylie remix, have they done anything?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:43 (twenty years ago) link

They mowed my lawn. They got some ribbon candy and twenty-five cents to buy some moon pies.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 21:45 (twenty years ago) link

I like the Spin list more when there were only 20 albums. These big lists seem to just pick every decent album released that year.

Shmuel (shmuel), Friday, 5 December 2003 08:52 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
07 Thursday "War All The Time" In my opinion this was the best album of 2003 and so far 2004, who cares if it was released last year.

Xeropunk4life, Friday, 23 April 2004 21:54 (twenty years ago) link

Way to tell 'em.

sLeeeter kinney (Leee), Friday, 23 April 2004 21:58 (twenty years ago) link

I agree! That's why Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band has been my #1 album each year since 1967!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 23 April 2004 21:59 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
you suck

tegan, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link

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j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link


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