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The remastered "Dazzle Ships" has been on the cards for about two years, with five extra tracks - the 12 inch versions of the two singles and their respective b-sides, plus "The avenue" from the "Locomotion" 12 inch (for some reason). Still no nearer getting issued though.

Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 13 March 2006 11:45 (eighteen years ago) link

and May last year on NYLPM "with the news that OMD are due to reunite, at the very least for a performance on German telly this month."

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/nylpm/2005_05_01_nylpm_archive.html#111576540197656225

kind of

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Cool. Grimly -- I hope I will be standing beside you watching some of this stuff happen soon. Actually, it would be good to see you soon, even.

alext (alext), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

seriously tho, this IS great news.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link

hurrah, ILM OMD posse drags its old-man arses into action. hello rob. hello alex [1]. hello alan. hello esteban ...

ILM IS THREE MONTHS BEHIND AJA/DANTE!!!

... fuck. rats' cocks.

[1] did you get my triptych e-mail? if not, let me know and i'll re-send.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

this is a mini version of those watercooler thread, amirite?

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh my.

Anyway, this is all good news, no matter the timeliness.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

this is a mini version of those watercooler thread, amirite?

[comment deleted on legal advice]

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
RIGHT: according to the not-always-reliable official website, the dazzle ships reissue will be with us in the autumn. i quote:

The album, which featured the singles Genetic Engineering and Telegraph, will be digitally remastered and will feature bonus tracks, including the full-length version of 66 & Fading. The reissue will also feature some previously unreleased material in the shape of Swiss Radio International - a track that was dropped from the original release - and also a version of Telegraph recorded at The Manor during the Architecture & Morality sessions in 1981.

Meanwhile, OMD will be back in the studio on August 7th for 1 week of rehearsals for the 2007 tour.

Andy McCluskey is also to be interviewed for a forthcoming issue of magazine The Word.

this is insanely good news. i cannot wait.

sadly, the A&M gigs planned for the autumn have been put back to next year too. oh well. gives me more time to anticipate. and maybe see OMD twice in one year. the joy!

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 13 July 2006 08:44 (seventeen years ago) link

how do i shot HTML?

that's better.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 13 July 2006 08:45 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
THEY WILL BE PLAYING "ROMANCE OF THE TELESCOPE LIVE". i will be able to die happily having seen that.

the DVD re-release of A&M sounds good too. but i still want me that remastered "dazzle ships", yo.

here endeth the newsflash.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

OMD are obviously classic, apart from the awful "Dazzle Ships" album, which contained one good single ("Telegraph") and then nothing much more worth listening to.

"Organisation" and "Architecture And Morality" were ace though, and the more straight pop oriented stuff they did later in the 80s is better than its reputation.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

but i still want me that remastered "dazzle ships", yo.

That's for damn sure.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

apart from the awful "Dazzle Ships" album

now, geir. we've done this. at length. you're wrong and i'm right, remember?

and the more straight pop oriented stuff they did later in the 80s is better than its reputation

yes, absolutely. in fact, at some point i might even go back and re-investigate "junk culture".

then again ...

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

No, it's actually a good album.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

the way i remember it, there was a lot of really cringe-inducing steel-drum nonsense, that bloody awful "all wrapped up" song, fucking "locomotion", the admittedly quite ace "tesla girls" and the GREAT LOST OMD SINGLE that was "never turn away", which stuck out like, umm, a healthy thumb on an otherwise sore and bandaged hand.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

"Tesla Girls" was great. Although not as great as "Dreaming", the underrated and largely ignored masterpiece single from 1988.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 24 August 2006 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

Has this already been covered?

"Work on the forthcoming OMD album The History Of Modern continues and a provisional release date is under consideration.

Paul Humphreys has been working on the new OMD album recently and mixing work is also on the schedule. Meanwhile, Andy McCluskey is meeting with Peter Saville this week to discuss sleeve design concepts. The band are also receiving a lot of requests for licensing offers from around the world and it looks likely that a lot of deals are going to be made over the next few months.

The record label that will be issuing the album is 100% Records, who have previously worked with Moby, Placebo and The Temper Trap.

The provisional release date for The History Of Modern is scheduled for late August/early September."

keythhtyek, Sunday, 4 April 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Heard a track on some podcast recently and it sounded a little like Souvenir. Looking forward to this.

You Weaked It! (MaresNest), Sunday, 4 April 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Souvenir = my favorite OMD track, no contest. Cautiously optimistic...

Olivier Messiaen Control (Paul in Santa Cruz), Sunday, 4 April 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

The Peter Saville thing is interesting, because it sounds like they might do something that sounds like their earlier stuff again. Also, good to hear Humphreys being back again, he didn't participate on those mostly below par 90s albums McCluskey made all alone.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 4 April 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

New album forthcoming, new interview in the Quietus, GREAT quote from McCluskey that Tom Ewing flagged on Tumblr:

We looked at how we had constructed some of our more unusual songs, and a lot of them were made from concrete music, found sounds, and we looked at what we had explored in the past and we were trying not to repeat ourselves, and, well, we’ve done trains; we’ve done machinery. And then I actually said to myself “I realise now that everything that we’ve sampled from the real world – trains, machines, computers, guns, typewriters – they were actually accidental”. The audio that we had sampled was a waste product from the specific design function of whatever it was that we had recorded. Let me clarify that: a typewriter is designed to type things onto a page, not make a clicking noise when you hit the key. A steam engine is not designed to go ‘chuff chuff’. That’s an audio waste product of the inefficiency of its engine. And as the world has modernised, the accidental audio by-products, waste products, of the things that have become concrete music are going to be less and less because the designers have designed out the waste so that the machinery of the modern world has actually become more silent.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

Read this earlier on this morning... having heard two (and a half!) snippets from the album now, I'm getting very very excited for this one!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

This is closer to the "Dazzle Ships" end of town, right?

Mark G, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

I think we should start another OMD S&D thread.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

BLimey, it's all happening in music-world, innit?

mbv,
OMD,
ILX do Bowie...

Mark G, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

This is closer to the "Dazzle Ships" end of town, right?

― Mark G, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 4:38 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The two and a half tracks they've previewed so far would suggest so, yeah.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

four years pass...

New album soon! First track from same:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PO_RkGju6M

Meantime they're playing LA and SF at the end of July -- and nowhere else (at least, so far). But that's lucky for me! Already got my ticket for SF. This'll be the first time I've ever seen them, so I'm quite glad.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 May 2017 20:14 (six years ago) link

Predictably, I really love this... sounds like they're moving even further in the direction they went with English Electric, which of course I wholeheartedly welcome.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 15 May 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

Heard a clip from another track on BBC radio, it sounded pretty good to me!

MaresNest, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 10:31 (six years ago) link

So Malcolm Holmes ultimately retired?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 11:32 (six years ago) link

Word has it is he is still making contributions to the new record, but Stuart Kershaw has taken over the drum stool for live performances.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

looking forward to this, I've never seen them and I really like the last two records

akm, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link

Not really feeling this as much as "Metroland". All of this modern OMD stuff feels a bit cynical to me even if I still enjoy some of it. "You guys like 'Dazzle Ships'? HERE YOU GO!"

yesca, Monday, 29 May 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

maybe but I'm perfectly happy a band is aping itself at it's best work.

akm, Monday, 29 May 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

Yeah this song is pretty fantastic, if Wire can revisit earlier albums why shouldn't OMD? If the results are this good.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 29 May 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

I don't think this track sounds anything like Dazzle Ships, to me it sounds very much a continuation of the last couple of LP's rather than OMD circa 1983. I think the recent stuff (History of Modern onwards) has a sonic quality which distinguishes it from the earlier albums. Sure, there's a Kraftwerk influence there but that shouldn't be very surprising.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 29 May 2017 23:33 (six years ago) link

As for the track - I like it, but it sounds to me like it'll work best in the context of the album.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 29 May 2017 23:36 (six years ago) link

The themes, instrumentation, emphasis on isolated samples and vocoders - this is all the pure spirit of Dazzle Ships even if the production is updated for 2017. At best the last couple of albums are a genuine return to the spirit of early 80's OMD vs. say, "If You Leave".

yesca, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 03:24 (six years ago) link

The first half of that track is really just straight-up Kraftwerk, circa Autobahn/Radioactivity. If you stripped down the production a bit, it could practically pass for an outtake from one of those albums.

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 04:20 (six years ago) link

I don't hear any detuned guitars, toy pianos, shortwave radios or acoustic instruments treated in unusual ways on this. Dazzle Ships is a record that couldn't possibly be made again. Thematically, it just strikes me as being business-as-usual OMD. 'If You Leave' was never one of their defining tracks.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 08:38 (six years ago) link

Isotope is great, sounds like OMD. The military one ... that sounded like something from Dazzle Ships.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 11:30 (six years ago) link

Military themes have been part of OMD's music since 'Bunker Soldiers', the first track off the first LP.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

probably an unpopular opinion but "Save Me" (bonus track on History of Modern) is amazing. probably my whole track on the entire disc. idk man I'm just a sucker for a great intro

frogbs, Friday, 1 September 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link

oh, and they've got a new album out today

frogbs, Friday, 1 September 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link

And it's good!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link

Incredibly, I haven't had the opportunity to hear it yet but from what I've heard it's going to be as good as the last one, which was great.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 1 September 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

New Numan in a fortnight too!

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 1 September 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

So yeah, I'm on my third listen to The Punishment of Luxury now, and my general feeling is like it's essentially a sort of English Electric part II but with a few surprises thrown in there ('As We Open, So We Close' in particular... fuck!) ... however, it's also a much less immediate record than English Electric. Still, I don't get any feeling that they sleepwalked their way through the making of this record - I can hear a band very much still trying to do something different (for them, at least) and a couple of the tracks here suggest that there's still new territory for them to mine and new directions for them to follow should they want to follow them.

One thing is for sure, they're not going to be able to get away with releasing another album in this mould for their next one - that's if there is a next one. If they continue, though, I'd personally like to see them make a different kind of record - start incorporating more acoustic percussion back into their sound or instruments not commonly heard on an OMD record.

Oh, and 'Robot Man' really has no place on this LP.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 2 September 2017 07:18 (six years ago) link

Maybe in list form, but listened to? I bet it's just right!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDDxpKJv8Qc

Maresn3st, Thursday, 22 April 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

This is an odd beast, but kinda interesting - https://store.omd.uk.com/products/architecture-morality-singles-40th-anniversary-cd

I wonder why nothing from it ended up on the box set?

There's a very weird, faster, almost disco-y version of Souvenier and the demo of Georgia is really sweet, missing the radio clips and the sample from 'I Wish You Love' but really poppy and simple.

Maresn3st, Friday, 15 October 2021 23:08 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5NDXBf1zGY

MaresNest, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

New album out today?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 October 2023 18:44 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

listening to it now and I'm surprised there's been no discussion of it on ILX so far. it's really good! reminds me of Electric by the Pet Shop Boys - sounds surprisingly youthful (has McClusky's voice changed at all the last 40+ years?) and modern, in fact most of these probably could be modern PSB tunes

frogbs, Friday, 1 December 2023 14:31 (four months ago) link


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