this is the thread where we complain about the new york times crossword puzzle

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Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link

The new Chicago Reader crossword a few weeks ago had as a clue: "Kings of Convenience singer Erlend"!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Tracer, your complaints about the NYTimes puzzle ring suspiciously pre-Shortz.

The Atlantic Monthly (right? not Harper's?) runs cryptics by Ravathon and Cox, who are hands-down the best cruciverbalists in this country.

I've never heard anyone talk about them getting harder as a month progresses, though. What do you do when the end of a month is on a Tuesday? Seems like madness.

I can do Saturdays about 33% of the time but it takes a few hours and usually a breather in between solving attempts. I am bringing some for my x-country train trip tomorrow.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 07:34 (nineteen years ago) link

The new Chicago Reader crossword a few weeks ago had as a clue: "Kings of Convenience singer Erlend"!

Did they want the correct letter Ø in the answer?

OleM (OleM), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 09:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe. The clue that crossed it was "______ Kierkegaard"

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link

The Atlantic Monthly (right? not Harper's?) runs cryptics by Ravathon and Cox, who are hands-down the best cruciverbalists in this country
Right. Rathvon and Cox in the Atlantic, Richard Maltby, Jr in Harpers. Rathvon and Cox are the best-after all, they wrote the book- but these days I like Maltby a little better. He works in musical theater as his day job, like the man who brought the cryptic puzzle to the US, Stephen Sondheim.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 11:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Rathvon (at some point I noticed that I had misread it for all these years, but now I can't remember whether I misread it by adding the "a" or forgetting it) and Cox are responsible for the greatest crossword puzzle ever, though, which was c. 1996 and which I still have around somewhere. Its gimmick made me squeal with outrage and delight, and I really don't want to say anything more about it in case you come across it someday -- it should come at you unawares. Didn't they also do the infamous Election Day 1996 puzzle where the center read either "CLINTON WINS ELECTION" or "BOB DOLE WINS ELECTION" depending on how you chose to fill in the first 7 squares? They are gods, you cannot touch them.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 12:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Does anybody know if there are any books on how to construct crosswords?

Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 12:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I may have just made that up about them getting harder through the month. I don't know now.

mte22 (mte22), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Curious G. I just searched but the sites seem to be blocked to me!

You know, last I checked the NY Sun had a really good puzzle. Lots of well-known constructors. I've bought some of the collections.

OK, here's something.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

there is not enough complaining going on in this thread

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Eat my Will Shortz!

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I want Saturday puzzles for free, too!

WAAAAAAH!

Austin S (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Curious Geo.: There are, although I haven't read any. The difficulty is not in the grid, it's in the clues.

Tracer: I'll complain that the Sundays are surprisingly boring and tedious considering their fame.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I became a trial subscriber to the NYTimes puzzle service for a month and downloaded an entire year of puzzles (2002, I think?) and continue to work on them. It is the economical way to do it, I think. If I had the "speed download" download-a-bunch-of-links-on-a-page-at-once software then that I have now, well, then I'd have a few years of puzzles for like $5 plus printing costs.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link

The Sunday puzzle I prefer to do as part of a team or tag team to minimize the fatigue of filling in the damn thing.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

slaw is served on hamburgers, at least in my part of Tennessee. And of course, on barbecue sandwiches.

Saturday's NYT puzzle is really the hardest for me, because the answers are longer words. I can do it maybe 50% of the time. Monday-Thursday I can almost always solve, Friday about 70%. Sunday takes longer, but I can usually do it easier than Saturday's.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link

What part of Tennessee are you from edd? I'm from Knoxville and seriously, the thought of putting slaw, or slaws even, on a.. burger? I can see how it might be good, especially the no-carrot cabbagey vinegary kind. I'm perfectly willing to admit that there are facets to the New York Times Crossword Solver's personality that remain obscure to me. What's a little frightening is how FEW of them there are!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 06:25 (nineteen years ago) link

For "personality" read "experience", if there is any difference, which I'm not sure there is

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 06:26 (nineteen years ago) link

for your possible use here's a .zip file with pretty much all the nyt sunday puzzles from the last seven years (388 files/850kb). you'll need the across lite software to open 'em.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 07:16 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
this week's Sunday puzzle falls on the 1st (hah at first I wrote "this week's Sunday puzzle falls on a Monday") so in light of this thread I considered whether that meant it would be the easiest Sunday puzzle one could have. I have decided that it's not. Casuistry has got it with the boring and tedious thing, but I'm usually able to race through them quicker than this, although I still haven't sussed out the theme, which is weird, too. sometimes I wonder whether it's the puzzle that's hard, or whether I'm just not with it. It's a very particular angle you have to jut yourself out at to do these things and sometimes there's something deep within me that refuses to even get into it. my theory, which is predicated on me being just as sharp as ever, is that the crossword people at the NY Times consider this the LAST Sunday of the month.. cause they work in weeks, right? They wouldn't zip straight from a Last Saturday type puzzle (which this last one was) to a real easy Sunday puzzle wouldn't they? Anyhow.

My complaints for this week are: "dais" twice in a row, with practically the same clue, what's next, "microphone's environs"?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 2 May 2005 05:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate it when they repeat like that. I was working in some (NYTimes) book and they had the same clue in three of the first four puzzles. Seriously, pay a little more care, people! Crossword puzzles are supposed to be transcendent!

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 2 May 2005 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm telling you, you want to get residuals for a long time, change your name to "Euai"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 2 May 2005 05:49 (eighteen years ago) link

or "Euai Kapaui"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 2 May 2005 06:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, I'm too lazy for bugmenot.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
yesterday's quite enjoyable, but "hit sign" = "sro" ... ? am i missing something here?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah the internet one was like that, you had to fit "edu" into one square, ditto "net" and "com" and "org", it was like a handwriting challenge just to cram all the letters in!

I catch this thread a year after the fact, and wowee: I totally remember this one! I really enjoyed it! One of those dramatic Thursdays where figuring out the theme opens up a whole new world. It's like the moment in action movies where the hero's getting his ass kicked by an unstoppable creature and then suddenly the geek calls in and says "it's fire, he's only vulnerable to fire," and then the hero turns around all refreshed and lays his smack down.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Standing Room Only.

The Yellow Kid, Friday, 17 March 2006 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

wow! that's cool. yesterday's was really good.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
"cross shape" = "tae" ??

plus did the circled spaces actually spell anything? i feel like there was something i was missing

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link

should be "tee". file that one away, it's standard.

the circles were "crossings", as in down-clue crossing the across-clue (or vice versa, I forget).

patita (patita), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

replace the first letter with a Q?!? I mean c'mon Will Shortz.

jergins (jergins), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

yes i get the crossings bit, but one doesn't need a circle to see that the clues cross.

"columbus" was the first of those that i got, and i was all like "aha! columbus circle!" but no. i liked that. but then the circles proved to mean 0. i even took the circled letters and tried to anagramatize them, but they make nothing.

i obv thought "tee" at first, but then that makes the clue that goes through it "Big Eest" .. "Big East", surely?

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
"Boomers' kids" = GENX ???

WTF, Shortz?

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

"Boomers' kids" = GENX

Am I the only one who's a bit skeptical about this?

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, but the apostrophe placement puts it on the level.

jim wentworth (wench), Thursday, 27 July 2006 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link

it's cheeky not to abbreviate that clue, or put "(abbrev.)" there, it's kind of breaking the rules - it's TOTALLY breaking the rules, actually

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 July 2006 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link

by the way, my name is now Euai Kapaui

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 July 2006 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

pronounced "yowee ka-powie"

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 July 2006 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

No, "Gen X" is short for "Generation X" the same way "Boomers" is short for "Baby Boomers". It's not an abbreviation, it's more like a nickname.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 27 July 2006 00:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa, my post from a few hours ago doesn't seem to have shown up. In it I pasted Wiki's definitions of Boomer (1946-61ish?) and Gen X (1964-82ish?) and pointed out how for many people (including myself -- my parents are both Boomers, and I am Gen X) it seems valid. Plus, what else could it be?

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 27 July 2006 00:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Argh - SHORTZED agane.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 July 2006 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
I heard it was pretty interesting today.

Run Ruud Run (Ken L), Friday, 22 September 2006 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

srsly, wtf?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 22 September 2006 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

SLAWS may be the funniest word.

Abbott, Friday, 4 April 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link

The Nintendo DS NTY Xword game is pretty sweet bcz you can have a friend (w/no cartridge even!) share a game & you solve the crossword together, each collaborating on yr own DS's screen. So much better than trying to arm in over each others' arms and omelettes and coffee while mutually solving.

Abbott, Friday, 4 April 2008 02:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Some of my favorite times have been tackling the xword with friends at a diner.

Abbott, Friday, 4 April 2008 02:15 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

that "slaws" clue STILL has the power to bother me. more than three years later

i finally had coleslaw on a burger, yesterday - it was great - but no matter how many bowls of different peoples' coleslaw was out there, it would all just be "slaw"

the plural of "slaw", in other words, is "slaw"

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

ffs lads

Synonym found after deleting half the letters of EXHILARATE

Pulitzer-winning author whose name is found in nonconsecutive letters of “page turner”

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 March 2024 12:40 (two weeks ago) link

i mean i’m sorry that james AGEE is inevitable fill several times a month but try harder

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 March 2024 12:45 (two weeks ago) link

for all of the grid embellishments, that puzzle was kind of dull in general.

jaymc, Thursday, 28 March 2024 13:01 (two weeks ago) link

57A was brutal clue and answer.

Astarion Is Born (Leee), Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:20 (two weeks ago) link

not really a complaint, but it’s weird to go six years without ARHAT then get it on back-to-back days

mookieproof, Friday, 29 March 2024 03:50 (two weeks ago) link

I learned it from the NYT Spelling Bee!

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 March 2024 10:41 (two weeks ago) link


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