Tell Me About: Threesomes

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Well, in my case, three of us were bi and one was a gay man with no interest in women. So there was a certain inevitability in how it turned out.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 21:23 (twenty years ago) link

Dr Alex Comfort warns that if you and your long-term partner are inviting someone in for a saucy three in a bed romp, you should watch out for mischief makers, who will make mischief in your relationship.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

"They gave each other high fives and started saying things like, ‘Oh yeah' and ‘She's liking that.'"

Oh my.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

"The trouble with threesomes is that someone usually ends up making the tea - and that someone was always me"

Marc Almond, paraphrased from memory from his biography.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 22:19 (twenty years ago) link

Tea baggin'?

Bryan (Bryan), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

Is that really what mischief makers do - make mischief?

the bellefox, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 22:32 (twenty years ago) link

talk about it for about a year first just to make sure it is not one of those, we only talk about it when we bang, sort of things. then good luck finding another single chick willing to participate.

if you do, make sure to give more lovin to the gf than not significant other.

if your gf wants a threesome with another guy...go ahead and break up now then have your threesome.

Rod Rockwell, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 23:22 (twenty years ago) link

Obviously, it's something you need to talk and talk and talk and talk and talk about with your partner. And with the third. I've been in on some discussions with polyamorous people about this, and they usually agree that all parties do need to understand what each part of the relationship means. You and your partner both want it. If either of you are unsure, talk some more. The third needs to understand why you both want it. Also, the third should not be made to feel like a third or be objectified.

There's a whole lot of baggage here, but good luck. Maybe check out some polyamorous forums or web sites. They're generally a bit more helpful and less cheesy than swinger websites.

Wanda, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 23:41 (twenty years ago) link

Why do you WANT to do this? Cos you saw it on TV? Like do you think this would occur to you and be planned during another historical period? I'm not trying to criticise you, I'm just saying, think about what Plato said, or someone, in the marketplace: 'So many things I don't need'. Well maybe you should do it. It just seems a bit of a CONSTRUCTED pleasure, though. I mean if you want to do something that's on the wrong side of the tracks why don't you just go and smash a whole lot of glass bottles in the gutter together, or something, something you make up yourselves. What would I know though?

Amity (Amity), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

did you have a bad experience, amity¿

dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 00:41 (twenty years ago) link

I think Amity has a point though... if you can't come up with a really solid reason WHY you want to do something, then it's likely you don't HAVE to do it.

Given the general agreement around here that threesomes are potentially hazardous to relationships, I'd say asking yourself why you want to do it is pretty important.

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 00:43 (twenty years ago) link

My friend who had a threesome said he wouldn't recommend having one with a significant other, because while it was a good idea beforehand in his mind, it sure wasn't in retrospect. He says if he would do it now, he would just hire out a couple of expensive escorts and do it that way.

I'm not saying it wouldn't work out of course but there are risks, and if you're deep into a committed relationship it doesn't seem like it would be worth it.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago) link

it is fun only if-
-everyone knows it is just pure hedonism
-the guy can get both girls off, not just one of them

if so, a fantastic experience
if not, a waste of time

voice, Wednesday, 4 February 2004 03:35 (twenty years ago) link

overrated.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 03:36 (twenty years ago) link

This is one of those things that possibly works best if you and your partner are gay men.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 04:50 (twenty years ago) link

That said, Martin is the most OTM, Amity is off for thinking this is some recent phenomenon or desire, and you do it because otherwise it's hard to have both your nipples nibbled on at once.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 04:51 (twenty years ago) link

unless of course you have recently given birth to twins.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 06:45 (twenty years ago) link

or are sleeping with zaphod beeblebrox

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 06:45 (twenty years ago) link

I thought those exceptions were implied.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 06:49 (twenty years ago) link

"if your gf wants a threesome with another guy...go ahead and break up now then have your threesome."

Hahahaha.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 07:01 (twenty years ago) link

Seriously though unless you both (emphasize BOTH) aspire to be swingers this is really a bad idea for couples (and if you both aspire to be swingers, well good luck with that, cuz I have met exactly ZERO sane swinging couples--never met ya Martin, sorry if you are normal--and I'm pretty convinced that swinging couples have the exactly the same insecurities that non-swinging couples do, but due to their particular sexual relationship those insecurities just tend to fester and manifest themselves in increasingly bizarre ways.) It's fine for completely unattached single folk and a lot gay men seem to have it all figured out, but I'd tend to agree with Jess, it's pretty overrated.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 07:14 (twenty years ago) link

It's no more overrated than regular two-person sex. If you're into both the people, at least.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 08:55 (twenty years ago) link

It's fine if you're not attached to either of the other parties. The idea of the emotional fallout from indulging with my current g/f makes me somewhat uneasy. But then again, she's MINE! ALL MINE!

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 10:27 (twenty years ago) link

I wouldn't want to share my boy with anyone. I cannot even imagine how much it would f@#k up our emotions & definitely end our relationship.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 11:12 (twenty years ago) link

What threesome overatington said.

Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 11:27 (twenty years ago) link

I had the opportunity for it twice in my life, freaked out both times and couldn't go through with it. Both times it was two girls and me. Sure its a dream come true but when its time to get busy and attempt to satisfy two girls, forget it.

I love from butter pecan to blackberry molass'
I don't discriminate, I regulate every shade of that *ass*
Long as you show class, and pass my test
Fat *fuckin* breasts, highly intelligent bachlorettes
That's the best, I won't settle for less
I wanna get a brunette, with unforgettable sex
I lay your head on my chest, come feel my heartbeat
We can park the Jeep, pump Mobb Deep, and just spark the leaf
It's hard to creep since I found Joe
Every pretty round brown *hoe* wanna go down low
But this Boogie Down pro-fessional, I'ma let you know
Once I quit the blows, get your clothes, cause you got to go
out the do' downstairs, little brown hairs everywhere
(You nasty Twin) I don't care
Round here they call me Big Pun,
Hit you with the big guns
Big tongue, known to make a chick *cum*

Chris V (Chris V), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 12:25 (twenty years ago) link

I thought it was "I can go downstairs" i.e. oral sex! Why she thinks that's nasty though is beyond me.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

I think you have to decided if this is, like amity said, something you want to do because it's chic and seemingly glamorous or if this is really a sexual thing that you and your gf are both into...not just a one-off. if you're both into it...then cool. i've met some sane poly folk although i don't think it's the lifestyle for me. swingers are a bit different in that they have less of an emotional connection with their lovers. hmmm.

oh and sorry for butting in again and again w/o introducing myself!

Wanda (Wanda), Thursday, 5 February 2004 00:14 (twenty years ago) link

if there is a baldwin involved, run for your life. If lara flynn boyle is involved, please consider.

queen G (nee Onassis), Thursday, 5 February 2004 11:08 (twenty years ago) link

hi geoff!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 5 February 2004 12:31 (twenty years ago) link

Many of the swingers I've known were very happily married (as far as I could see) couples. There are crazy people in that world, but like anything else you pick and choose who you get involved with with some care, and I don't think it's any harder finding the sane and pleasant ones than in any other realm or relationships.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 5 February 2004 23:16 (twenty years ago) link

Dr Alex Comfort on the money about third parties being mischief-makers who make mischief. And Vice magazine on the money about threesomes.

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 5 February 2004 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

In a broke down SUUUBARUUU.

Chris V (Chris V), Friday, 6 February 2004 12:23 (twenty years ago) link

Back when I was a free agent, I somehow ended up in tons of threesomes and it was always super fun. The secret (as others have said) is to never actually be 'involved' with anyone you're getting down with. While most of the people I hooked up with were single as well, there was a married couple that I met up with a few times. The only awkward moment was the time that the wife and I were chatting at a party and she claimed that I was in love with her husband. Since I only put up with the husband so that I could hang out with her, nothing could have been further from the truth. By the end of the conversation, she understood that I wasn't carrying a torch for her husband, but I never let on that she was the main attraction as far as I was concerned. Not all third parties are mischief makers. They issued the invitation(s), I accepted, and that was it.

This was all long ago, and I've been with the same person for the last three years (and very happily so). While the threesomes were a blast, I don't miss them at all.

Chris K, Saturday, 7 February 2004 04:39 (twenty years ago) link

hi Chris K!

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Saturday, 7 February 2004 07:38 (twenty years ago) link

Right back at ya Mr. Matos!

Chris K (suzy), Saturday, 7 February 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago) link

Okay, here's my couple o' cents on the topic: TALK. TALK. TALK. One-on-one and all of you together. The initiating couple (if the arrangement is of a couple seeking to bring in someone else) needs to examine why they want to do this and then look at their reasons and decide if that's reason enough to take it from a fantasy to a reality.

You also need to look at and discuss all of the possible negative outcomes of the experience - don't think "well, we're not the jealous types" and leave it at that - you don't know how jealous or insecure or uncomfortable you might be until you're in the situation. How will you address these issues if they come-up in the middle of three of you frolicking around? How will you address them afterward?

You might want to consider (since you're coming from the "couple" end of things) setting some ground rules about what can and can't be done (I know that lots of people feel more secure if there are certain activities that are reserved for just the couple - like oral sex or whatever - something that shows that there's a bond between the two of you and that you're not going to share that with someone else). However, if you do choose to set such a restriction, you need to make that clear to the third person, so they don't overstep that boundary.

As far as bringing-up the topic with this other person, I'd recommend a public, though quiet, location - don't do it at yours or their house, as if there's a negative reaction, you're going to associate that with the place where it happened - you don't want them to always feel uncomfortable about coming to your house or you visting at their place. Depending on the dynamics, if this third person is closer to one of the partners than the other, the initial suggestion might be better brought-up with just the two of them, before the group discussion begins. (Oh, and as far as where to actually have the sex goes, you might want to think about some neutral place, so that if it is a negative experience the "marriage bed", so to speak, isn't associated with that.)

When it's the three of you talking, make sure that you're not all intoxicated or otherwise under the influence - you have to all have clear heads and minds. And, like it or not, you need to talk about some pretty uncomfortable things, like birth control, and STDs, and past partners, besides addressing all of the emotional issues. Make sure that during all of this you're not pairing off as two against one, which it can sometimes feel like is happening - this isn't a tag-team event, it's a sharing of something intimate and fun between three equals. Be sure to talk about limits and likes and dislikes (really, it's best not to have decided that anal sex will only happen between the couple and then to be in bed and suddenly discover that the third person only likes anal sex - or can't stand to watch it or think about it).

The three of you also need to talk about what happens afterward - do you all spend the night together? Or does someone leave? When do you all talk about what happened? If it doesn't go well, do you agree that you'll talk about what went wrong? If it goes great, when will you talk about that?

Don't have unrealistic expectations about the actual event - it's confusing, you'll end-up in uncomfortable (physical) positions, and there may be times where someone feels left out, because the other two are caught-up in each other. And you know how tough it can be to have mutual orgasms? Three of you coming at once - well, it can happen, but I think that's more of a fluke or a result of lots and lots of (fun) practice. It's not all going to be perfect and wonderful - the fantasy is never the reality - but the reality can exceed the fantasy, if everything goes well. Or maybe you'll need to do it a few times to learn what works and doesn't work.

A threesome can be incredible - physically and emotionally - it can bring people together and provide greater intimacy - it can strengthen bonds - it can be an excellent thing. But it can also be painful, emotionally destructive, dividing, and alienating. Ultimately, no matter how much you prepare for things, you won't know how you feel about it all until it's happening. (And you may discover that the negative emotions arise sometime after the incident, too.)

Talk and talk and talk. Have a sense of humor. Make sure that you all like each other (being physically attracted to someone isn't enough). Don't take yourself too seriously. Be open. Be honest. Admit your fears and concerns. Talk about your hopes and wishes, too. If you're at all uncertain, then don't do it. If you are certain that it's something that the three of you want, then go for it, with open minds and hearts and a resolve that no matter what happens, you're going to work through the after-effects together.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 7 February 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not sure what sort of discussions (if any) my married couple had, but they're still the picture of wedded bliss more than a decade later. Can't say the same of everyone I ended up with, though. Though I didn't find out about it until a couple of years after the fact, one couple ended up getting divorced because the woman came to the conclusion that she had been a lesbian her whole life but just didn't know it until then.

I stick by the idea that threesomes are best made up of three independents versus a couple plus one. While the later version can work out ok depending on the people involved, it is much more likely to backfire.

Chris K (suzy), Saturday, 7 February 2004 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

Agreed with the "talk talk talk" crowd. If you think it might be a good idea or a bad idea, but are not sure, IT IS A BAD IDEA. If you're all agreed, while sober, that it's a good idea, and are willing to talk about it until it's well & truly worked out (this may not take long, but it may), then it probably is a good idea (and, yes, "worth it"). The "couple + 1" formulation has the additional risk of jealousy, which makes it extra-important to set limits in advance, but the additional benefit that it's a lot more clear how everyone's supposed to feel about/act toward everyone else afterwards.

orange twig (Douglas), Saturday, 7 February 2004 23:51 (twenty years ago) link

I think that the odds of a threesome (or any other sexual encounter) being a positive thing is based on the personalities involved and the comfort level of all: if they're not all able to talk, then it's much more risky. I don't think that anyone can say "this is a good thing" or "this is a bad thing." It works for some, in some situations, and not for others in other situations.

I don't know if it's better to have it be a couple and then a third person or three individual people - it's based on personalities and compatabilities, and I think that the odds of something working or not working are probably close - but that the ramifications of the working/not working could be more wide-reaching if two of the participants are a couple.

I've been in threesomes in both situations, and I can't say that either situation was particularly more successful or easy than the other - again, it's personalities and the situation at the time.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 7 February 2004 23:52 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Anyone been involved in these lately?

(Sniffs) Just asking.

Curiouser, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Not recently. But I always found them overrated not in an emotional sense but in a technical-physical sense. Even with emotionally uninvolved people one doesn't want to make one person feel left out, so there's a lot of somewhat forced rearrangements. It's too much thinking basically with the usual end result of a menage a blah.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 00:20 (eighteen years ago) link

All that advice on "talking it out" sounds like the worst thing ever. Who wants to have long, boring-assed conversations with you SO and some dude/chick about how you might or might not do it and how weird it may or may not be?

This is why threesomes don't work.

sugarpants: sadness is for poor people! (sugarpants), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 07:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Really you just have to all be into it, or yeah there's no point. Drunkenness doesnt always help either, as one rather failed attempt that left me feeling nothing but sordid taught me.

(one other time was fun, but hey)

Trr4aayceeOMG (trayce), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 08:47 (eighteen years ago) link

five years pass...

this is one of those things that deserves all the hype, imo.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 31 March 2011 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link

*sings* we know what you've been dooooo-iiiiing...

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Thursday, 31 March 2011 06:36 (thirteen years ago) link

just wanted to disagree with all the naysayers in the clusterfuck thread. Threesomes are worth the effort!

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 31 March 2011 06:38 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

tmi bomb: my gf mentioned that she had one of these in college with another girl and a 'random guy'... and as someone who was never really able to manage to score random hookups ever, let alone more than one simultaneously, (and also as someone who has very very often fantasized about this sort of encounter), the thought of it is just seriously, nonstop haunting me since she mentioned it. i've become more depressed than i've been since high school, and i can hardly look at her and keep it together, i'm just constantly distracted by the idea of it. i feel like any attempt to talk through my feelings with her would turn into shitty emotional manipulation of one sort or another. and i don't think i should even want to try to arrange one with her and someone else (which she said she might possibly be into, with a number of boundaries) because i feel like even in the best case scenario, i'd find some reason to be disappointed that it isn't the same as the kind of freewheeling, no-strings hookup that she (well honestly, that 'random guy') had. i don't want to blame her or accost her for her sexual past, it's her life and her business and i understand that this is more of a deep insecurity thing that is my problem, not hers..... but i just can't seem to get over it. it's been almost a week since we talked and it's still literally the only thing i seem to be capable of thinking about when i'm not occupied by doing something. why is this such a big deal? ugh :(

blogged out, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link

Been a long time since we had a properly done logged out post. Well done

, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

Coincidental FB update from a friend:
It's so cold hell has frozen over. The only possible explanation for me eating a mango.

forbodingly titled It's True! It's True! (Eazy), Friday, 21 November 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link

the warmth of cuddling up with a mango or two

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 21 November 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link

There's this weird delusion that str8 guys have, that when a MFF threesome occurs, it is somehow all about the super-studly babe-attracting powers of the M in the equation. Of the MFF threesomes I've had, and all the women I've talked to about random hookup threesomes, 3 times out of 4, the threesome is actually about the ~bi-curious~ (or just plain bi) desires of the women involved, and the dude involved is pretty incidental / really only there as an excuse or cover to try out lady-love.

(Long term couples I have no experience with, but others' experience indicates 50/50?)

But if you are a dude asking yourself "why am I not the kind of guy who gets to have threesomes?" it is way less about you, and way more about the women you know.

TL; DR there's no guy in threesome.

Nicki Minaj - The Pink Floyd (Branwell with an N), Friday, 21 November 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link

i know one (1) guy who is in a literal polyamorous relationship with two girls (all three dating each other etc) and he is a person who once yelled at me for saying "dice" when referring to a singular die

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 21 November 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link

Beer and pot make the threesome more casual.

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Saturday, 22 November 2014 01:25 (nine years ago) link


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