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"open your ears" is an argument I really only ever hear p-funk use

sassy, fun, and RELATABLE (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link

Haven't heard that one. I'm more familiar with Motor Booty Affair.

c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link

everyone should start calling Benghazi "the motor booty affair"

sassy, fun, and RELATABLE (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link

That sounds dictatorial.

c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

mister president the american people deserve to know the truth about the motor booty affair

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Images/2013/8/2/20138222246288734_20.jpg

edvard dzhozef snouden

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

an intelligence official said the controversial NSA programs that gather data on American phone calls or track Internet communications with suspected terrorists played no part in detecting the initial tip. That official spoke on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss the spying publicly.

A U.S. official familiar with the threat information said the decision to close the embassies was based on a broad swath of information, not just the intercept

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/state-dept-posts-19-countries-remain-closed

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link

Not to sound classist, but have you seen the type of people who are hired to do that work at the airport?
I'm sure they get paid very little.

― c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:57 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

TBH this sounds more racist than classist

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link

most TSA officers just look uncomfortable and bored, which is what I'd be in about 30 seconds if I had their job

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

you'd think security theater could at least be entertaining

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

on my flight to Chicago a few weeks ago the TSA guy reminding us to follow the rules smiled a lot. Maybe he got head in the garage before work?

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link

Not to sound classist, but have you seen the type of people who are hired to do that work at the airport?
I'm sure they get paid very little.

― c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:57 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

TBH this sounds more racist than classist

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 20:44 (1 hour ago) Permalink

Now you're just putting words in my mouth.

c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link

(As in, I can't imagine in what dimension what I said could be interpreted as a reference to race.)

c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link

"type of people" -- what can you learn about the backgrounds of TSA employees from seeing them for a minute or two at a time?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link

they just look like normal people. in chicago they seem to be about 80% black/hispanic.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link

Of course, this is all from my experience. I like to think I've done my fair share of travelling. So, that plus the articles on them, I think this is a different case than a simple generalisation after a few minutes of the TSA accosting me. But then I also don't think very highly of the US border patrol, and I've definitely never seen a black person working there.

Here is a random article, for starters: http://www.infowars.com/government-report-tsa-corruption-misconduct-soaring/

Any other time, I'd probably agree with you, though.

I've been to Chicago, but never through the TSA there. But just to clarify, I'm not singling out a race or races.

In Los Angeles, I don't recall there being enough black people for them to stand out in my memory.

c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link

(Actually, I wouldn't be able to tell you the race of the last TSA screener who checked my stuff.)

c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link

lol you got caught being a straight republican instead of just a libertarian, just own up and move on already

balls, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 23:46 (ten years ago) link

In Los Angeles, I don't recall there being enough black people for them to stand out in my memory.

― c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 7:14 PM

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link

it's one thing to link to a bunch of articles about TSA employees being corrupt/whatever

it's another to say you can guess what "type" of people they are just by looking at them. i mean what do you glean by looking at them other than gender/race/weight and the fact that they are working a shitty, low-paying job? i mean, yeah, you can probably surmise that they weren't born with silver spoons in their mouths b/c they are, after all, working a shitty job. but beyond that...?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 8 August 2013 00:26 (ten years ago) link

(Actually, I wouldn't be able to tell you the race of the last TSA screener who checked my stuff.)

― c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, August 7, 2013 7:19 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh wow you don't see color how enlightened

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Thursday, 8 August 2013 01:34 (ten years ago) link

i think we've piled on enough... time to move on to the next article detailing the newest revelation about which government agency is trampling on the constitution...

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 8 August 2013 01:35 (ten years ago) link

NASA trying to get to mars just bc there's no constitution there, and they would sure enjoy that

touch. zing touch. you've almost convinced me I'm real (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 August 2013 05:39 (ten years ago) link

there's a weird thing afoot of ppl wanting to boycott olympics over their truly horrifying ott homophobic policies, ppl wanting to boycott olympics over snowden/syria/'romney was right', and ppl decidedly opposed to any boycott of olympics cuz hey russia is right to bash gays/harbor snowden/arm assad. very skeptical a boycott is possible or likely (by and large history hasn't looked favorably at carter's boycott as far as i can tell), it's really not obama's style (though i could see him wanting to fuck over the olympics for personal reasons), and i'm not even sure the using russia's anti-gay policies as cover for a boycott actually motivated by realpolitik motivations would work (doubt the concerns over russia's anti-gay policies has registered at all for putin tbh, certainly not to any degree he remotely takes seriously, esp since the activism so far has taken the form of boycotting a vodka bottled in latvia by a company hq'ed in luxembourg. dan savage, genius, strikes again.), if americans were mixed over boycotting olympics over russia invading another country when russia was the proverbial boogeyman and an actual existential threat i kinda doubt they're gonna be more on board w/ an issue they know little about (and hence would definitely see as cover for snowden motivated boycott)(syria so far off the radar for average american no way would that occur as actual reason) and would probably only read as 'o so they're like chik-fil-a' if they did find out about it.

balls, Thursday, 8 August 2013 12:41 (ten years ago) link

We should poll these bullet points:

Vladimir Putin is not omnipotent. He does not control everything that happens in the Russian Federation, a vast and often inhospitable landmass that spans 10 time zones.

Similarly, Barack Obama does not have total control over the minutiae of the United States of America.

Putin does not orchestrate, he reacts. Putin is no chess player. He is a knee-jerk, short-sighted little tyrant. Don't give him credit where credit isn't due.

Americans, especially Americans who have never been to Russia, overestimate the abilities of both Putin and the Russians. Because, I mean, come on. Tank!

The Russians did not create the Snowden situation; Julian Assange and the U.S. government did. Assange insinuated himself into the situation and sent Snowden to Ecuador (the country granting him asylum) through Russia (his great friend).

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 August 2013 12:44 (ten years ago) link

would be so pissed if we boycoted the olympics, i love the olympics

max, Thursday, 8 August 2013 12:46 (ten years ago) link

Tank!

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 8 August 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link

max otm

k3vin k., Thursday, 8 August 2013 12:55 (ten years ago) link

would be so pissed if we boycoted the olympics, i love the olympics

― max, Thursday, August 8, 2013 7:46 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

at least you could watch it online w/o all those constant "let's take a look this american athlete's life story" interludes

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 8 August 2013 13:02 (ten years ago) link

The genuine calls for a boycott are definitely being capitalised on by those wanting to isolate Russia over Snowdon.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Thursday, 8 August 2013 13:04 (ten years ago) link

haha my commie ass is all 'as long as we don't boycott the world cup', the fuck has happened to me

balls, Thursday, 8 August 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link

It's a tough one for people to square, i think. People (often legitimately) want to send a message to Russia, a country where homosexuality is legal for anyone over the age of 16, but wouldn't dream of doing the same for Qatar or Texas where it's prohibited by law.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Thursday, 8 August 2013 13:22 (ten years ago) link

obama on leno -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5ARGYMxmaY

balls, Thursday, 8 August 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link

balls otm up there.

would be so orgasmic if we boycotted the Olympics, I hate the Olympics.

(But no TV too, plz)

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 August 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link

what do you have against spectacles of human accomplishment?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 8 August 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link

oh wait, you hate everything. except some spielberg movies IIRC.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 8 August 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link

national anthems + curious standard of "accomplishment." xp

I love lots of things where people in unitards don't get point scores from judges.

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 August 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link

if only there were sports in the olympics that werent gymnastics

max, Thursday, 8 August 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link

the olympics are the worst but the winter olympics are fine

The concept of making the Zuiderzee docile (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 8 August 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link

We're good at curling

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 August 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link

k max, I consider frilly dresses and other skating outfits to be in the unitard "family"

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 August 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link

national anthems + curious standard of "accomplishment."

same standard humanity's had since the dawn of civilization: tests of endurance, strength, flexibility, strategy...

i mean the olympics are a lot of BS in many ways but when you break it down to the essentials it's hard not to be fascinated, unless you are completely numbed/deadened i guess

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 8 August 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link

the winter olympics is preferable to summer because its less of the 'lets just show butts' festival that nbc puts on in the summer

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 8 August 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

humans have enjoyed butts since even before the dawn of civilization, tho

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 8 August 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link

it's easy not to be fascinated by a quadrennial tarted-up clusterfuck that has room for ppl jumping over things on horses, but not baseball.

"deadened," man, better than being wished dead i guess

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

i thought baseball was in?

if it's not, i can see why not tho. not enough countries! cricket ain't in there either.

R'LIAH (goole), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link

They voted it out in 2005.

Here's the storify, of a lovely ladify (Phil D.), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link

people jumping over things on horses is pretty cool, wish they would speed it up a bit tho

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link


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