omnibus PRISM/NSA/free Edward Snowden/encryption tutorial thread

note that the atlantic piece very responsibly uses a photo from the boston manhunt to illustrate the article

doesn't seem like a journo who would make things up plus they repurposed the post for the guardian, so seem to be standing by it?

way outlandish tho

Him seeking help from Russia certainly doesn't damage his standing in my eyes. I think the whole thing is largely a question of generational lines. For me the Soviet Union was a historical villain, it just doesn't have the scaring power that it would were I a baby boomer who grew up in the age of Cold War propaganda.

Regardless of what happens to him or how he is portrayed by the media or anything else, he should be content in knowing that what he has done is set an example, and that maybe the generation that grows up with Edward Snowdens already in the world will expect a higher level of transparency, legitimately delivered or not.

don't know about "regardless of what happens to him." i mean, if he disappears or spends the rest of his days in the clink i guess the next generations will have an example.

considering how powerful the US is and how many countries would be eager to execute its every whim, Snowden's options of places that would help him basically limits him to countries that are on the US' bad side

Does anyone want a job as an XKEYSCORE Systems Engineer?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/08/01/is-xkeyscore-still-active-defense-contractor-posted-a-job-listing-for-it-2-weeks-ago/

Have a look at the spy tools' codenames for other Xkeyscore jobs Cryptome dug up: http://cryptome.org/2013/08/nsa-xkeyscore-saic.htm

Haha. Love it.

Also, with regard to someone mentioning getting into crypto, lots of it is infosec which is a lot of Fed/defence/gov't stuff. so it's difficult to have any...um...let's say "impact". Of course, if you are looking to be the next Snowden, all bets are off. And good luck with that. Dunno. Very political and nutty/surreal.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/01/employer-tipped-off-police-in-pressure-cookerbackpack-gate-not-google/

ah ok, thanks lbi. my other theory was disgruntled neighbor.

It's not less amazing to learn she was turned in by her employer tbh. Didn't half the world google those words after the Boston bombings?

To be honest, I thought her story was a little fishy. Not that it counts for anything, but I had a hunch something didn't add up. I'm glad and surprised the story unfolded as quickly as it did, though. Kind of makes me wonder....

I mean, with this whole surveillance state thing, it can be used to explain various scenarios, which may be (partially) true, but it is a little disingenuous and misleading.

For me, it's more important to find out that XKeyscore is still going on and they are still recruiting engineers for it.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/08/nsas-internet-taps-can-find-systems-to-hack-track-vpns-and-word-docs/

Bringing up Iran is a good one.

Roy Edroso has some things to say about Pressurecookergate as well.

cheers me that this is what reverb motherfuckers grow up to be

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/02/the_whistleblower_may_have_to_hold_his_tongue

not gonna sign up to read that tbh

protip click the reader button in safari and the annoying signup box goes away

or disable javascript, or whatever

not lying: i read all mordy's foreign policy links through the greyed-out gap between the signup box and the bottom of the screen

Snowden's choice of Russia as the place to hide out from the U.S. justice system is "more than weird," says Vladimir Varfolomeyev, an editor at Echo of Moscow radio station. "He might as well be whistleblowing about America from North Korea, Iran, or Uzbekistan." Besides, if Snowden had heard of Pussy Riot or Magnitsky, he wouldn't have praised the rule of law in Russia, the journalist added.

'choice'
'had heard of'

what can we do to end the tedious meta-dialogue about whether his choice of asylum country is some kind of reflection of his aims as a leaker, that working to live somewhere else as an avoidance of decades in prison in his own country that felt the need to assure the world it would't torture or kill him doesn't hollow out the morality of his stance, i'm so fucking sick of this

/bruneau

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

there is a discontuinity in that snowden being in russia is conditional on putin's glee in fucking over obama, which is a legacy of cold war tu quoque arguments, except that world no longer exists

so he is in a vestigial space between philby & sakharov and a more diffuse world order where dissidents seek sanctuary in whichever nation has relative political indemity or a demagogic interest in upsetting their country of origin

his eventual home will probably be one of those latin american nations that were humiliated by the treatment of evo morales in austria, in addition to the usual litany of complaints against america

Hey guys,

Just a quick note on getting around pay-wall articles: copy the URL, then go to www.google.com and paste it on there and search for it. Click on link. That should get rid of it.

Also, you can try Googling the headline/title of the article, but sometimes the article headline changes.

tbh is there much clucking among "lib" bloggers? Only Sully has tut-tutted.

paste it on there = paste it on Google's search field (in case it isn't obvious :S)

lolol

so an edit was made to snowden's wiki page to read "edward snowden is an american traitor"

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Snowden&diff=566904988&oldid=566903734

Revision as of 20:53, 2 August 2013 (edit) (undo)
156.33.241.5 (talk)
(changed dissident to traitor)

dig a bit:

156.33.241.5 looks to be located in Stafford, Virginia in United States based on our research.

Host: 156.33.241.5
IP: 156.33.241.5
Hostname:
ISP: United States Senate
Organization: US Senate
City: Stafford
Region: Virginia

drunk intern strikes again

fuckin guy

User contributions
For 156.33.241.5 (talk | block log | uploads | logs | filter log)

20:53, 2 August 2013 (diff | hist) . . (-2)‎ . . Edward Snowden ‎ (changed dissident to traitor)

20:45, 2 August 2013 (diff | hist) . . (-4)‎ . . The Five People You Meet in Heaven ‎ (deleted redundant 'was' in first paragraph) (current)

15:36, 29 July 2013 (diff | hist) . . (0)‎ . . Donald E. Graham ‎ (current)

18:50, 17 July 2013 (diff | hist) . . (+74)‎ . . Tonga Room ‎ (Added credits for 1967 redesign) (current)

21:14, 2 July 2013 (diff | hist) . . (+1)‎ . . Pork ‎ (→‎Disease in pork: the FSIS is part of the USDA and not a part of the FDA)

14:11, 7 June 2013 (diff | hist) . . (+15)‎ . . Samanids ‎ (→‎Domination)

14:07, 7 June 2013 (diff | hist) . . (+171)‎ . . Samarkand ‎ (→‎The pre-Mongol period)

18:30, 28 February 2013 (diff | hist) . . (+3)‎ . . Ruger Super Redhawk ‎ (→‎The introduction: Minor edit to reflect original Redhawk still remaining in production and 4" availability)

22:14, 2 August 2013 (diff | hist) . . (-2)‎ . . my dick ‎ (changed my dick to my giant dick)

In today's news: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/04/congress-nsa-denied-access

*The House was asked to vote on whether to defund the NSA programme or not
*Congressmen are not allowed to know even basic info on it, yet still vote on it
*Some people seem to be more in favour of the NSA--these include Feinstein and Rogers, and the latter got a nice little perk (more $s)
*A quote:

Whatever else is true, members of Congress in general clearly know next to nothing about the NSA and the FISA court beyond what they read in the media, and those who try to rectify that are being actively blocked from finding out.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805

So many things to quote from that article. I just can't decide.

dlh that is fukkin hilarious

also now on tpm -

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/did-someone-in-senate-edit-snowdens-wikipedia-page

the gentlemanly institution

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805

So many things to quote from that article. I just can't decide.

― c21m50nh3x460n, Monday, August 5, 2013 11:49 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jesus

So it's just going to be this way from here on out. Good luck to us all.

Article of the day: Under civil forfeiture, Americans who haven’t been charged with wrongdoing can be stripped of their cash, cars, and even homes. Is that all we’re losing?

If all this stuff was so secret, none of us would be discussing it. The system works!

lol

so it seems to me either

- al qaeda is not as decimated as we have been led to believe, and still capable of launching a fearsome attack
- the 'intercept' aspect of this is being played up, likely with leaks to republicans who can safely gin up 'just like 9/11' nonsense, as surveillance damage control

yeah i haven't come into this thread like SUSPICIOUS cuz it makes me feel like a stoner but um it's p fuckin suspicious

otm

Two brain dead Republicans, notably lobotomy victim Peter King, made the rounds of the talk shows yesterday saying the Obama administration was right to summon John Ashcroft from the dead to ask Admiral "Buster" Poindexter to reactivate color-coded warnings.

boo hiss:

The county’s district attorney, a fifty-seven-year-old woman with feathered Charlie’s Angels hair named Lynda K. Russell, arrived an hour later. Russell, who moonlighted locally as a country singer,

between that horrifying 'civil forfeiture' article and the newspaper shit and the NSA shit and the eminent attack/convenient distraction i...kinda want to go back to bed

You probably need a bunker, not a bed.

Or better yet: a bed in a bunker.

Make sure to put your bed bunker inside another bunker.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/06/us/tsa-expands-duties-beyond-airport-security.html?pagewanted=all

given their public-pleasing work, this is simply natural