omnibus PRISM/NSA/free Edward Snowden/encryption tutorial thread

i think it delegitimizes some of the moral force of his case, however a) i can't imagine much more than the hong kong trip did, b) i think even if you aren't a snowden fan it's easy to see that he doesn't have a lot of good options at the moment, and c) probably his case should matter more than the person delivering it

eh I dunno can you get good borscht in Russia these days?

you couldn't for a while, but then putin came

it's spelled "poutine"

the google / visit from the jttf story is astonishing. this needs to be front page news. maybe it will help people get it.

saw sullivan making a lot of noise about how accepting russian assistance damages snowden's position in public opinion, because he looks like he's "defecting" to russia

does sully realize that russia is not at war with the u.s.?

google/jttf story is really, really fishy

yeah, without some independent confirmation I'm not inclined to assume that really happened

i watch c-span of theswe hearings quite often, twice now, and I get the impression of a certain type of universal incompetance of a kind of unsure future..

def makes u wnt2gt n2 cryptography

i can't remember much of what i was watching..

how is monitoring the internet/phone not a necessity for technological puriy if driving forcew of culture (such as psychedelia, questionably) are not in a harmony with it.. this is a general question.

i am for prison planet, as i would commit myself as a drug addict, but i respect psychonautical life whether religiousitily based or in the government programmes or //..

right now drug culture seems to be defeating itself in uyearning for technological innovation in a n untenable syhstem of pseudopsychedelic mind-based facets of a multiverse that may not exist if it's behaviour is as such... but then again i can see the myopic workism of a corpocracy being too... unloving, or not free. but then again i would call that a projection of the mind itself. the concreteness of the universe is probably quite spelled out in theory of the mind, pshychaitry, etc, so i do not mean to be too... naive.

dude

or even the poison of a negated voice based in symbol and abscontion, might ber the tru iissu

dude :P :-) :-b

suppositionally speaking

my favorite new poster ^

nonblog version of pressure cooker story. another one. weird passing-the-buck thing where everyone contacted denies their organization's role in the visit without denying the visit itself, which yes could mean the visit never happened, and no we still don't have any evidence for it besides that blog post:

A spokesman for the FBI told to Guardian on Thursday that its investigators were not involved in the visit, but that "she was visited by Nassau County police department … They were working in conjunction with Suffolk County police department."

A Nassau County police spokesman later said the department's officers were not involved. The Guardian has contacted the Suffolk County police department for comment.

In a conversation with The Atlantic Wire, FBI spokesperson Peter Donald confirmed The Guardian's report that the FBI was not involved in the visit itself. Asked if the FBI was involved in providing information that led to the visit, Donald replied that he could not answer the question at this point, as he didn't know.

We asked if the Suffolk and Nassau police, which The Guardian reported were the authorities that effected the visit, are part of the government's regional Joint Terrorism Task Force. They are, he replied, representing two of the 52 agencies that participate. He said that local police are often deputized federal marshals for that purpose — but that the JTTF "did not visit the residence." He later clarified: "Any officers, agents, or other representatives of the JTTF did not visit that location."

We are awaiting a response from Suffolk County police and the Department of Homeland Security which operates an investigatory fusion center in the region. A representative of the Nassau County police denied the department's involvement in the visit.

the whole point of the jttf post-9/11 tho is blurring lines between federal/homesec police and local police, "improving cooperation" etc, so feds saying "it was just local police" doesn't mean much to me unless suffolk county denies it too in which case huh.

im more interested in arab psychiatric torture anywhoo.

sorry, that's rather inappropriate, or apropos

:/

or off topic

note that the atlantic piece very responsibly uses a photo from the boston manhunt to illustrate the article

doesn't seem like a journo who would make things up plus they repurposed the post for the guardian, so seem to be standing by it?

way outlandish tho

Him seeking help from Russia certainly doesn't damage his standing in my eyes. I think the whole thing is largely a question of generational lines. For me the Soviet Union was a historical villain, it just doesn't have the scaring power that it would were I a baby boomer who grew up in the age of Cold War propaganda.

Regardless of what happens to him or how he is portrayed by the media or anything else, he should be content in knowing that what he has done is set an example, and that maybe the generation that grows up with Edward Snowdens already in the world will expect a higher level of transparency, legitimately delivered or not.

don't know about "regardless of what happens to him." i mean, if he disappears or spends the rest of his days in the clink i guess the next generations will have an example.

considering how powerful the US is and how many countries would be eager to execute its every whim, Snowden's options of places that would help him basically limits him to countries that are on the US' bad side

Does anyone want a job as an XKEYSCORE Systems Engineer?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/08/01/is-xkeyscore-still-active-defense-contractor-posted-a-job-listing-for-it-2-weeks-ago/

Have a look at the spy tools' codenames for other Xkeyscore jobs Cryptome dug up: http://cryptome.org/2013/08/nsa-xkeyscore-saic.htm

Haha. Love it.

Also, with regard to someone mentioning getting into crypto, lots of it is infosec which is a lot of Fed/defence/gov't stuff. so it's difficult to have any...um...let's say "impact". Of course, if you are looking to be the next Snowden, all bets are off. And good luck with that. Dunno. Very political and nutty/surreal.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/01/employer-tipped-off-police-in-pressure-cookerbackpack-gate-not-google/

ah ok, thanks lbi. my other theory was disgruntled neighbor.

It's not less amazing to learn she was turned in by her employer tbh. Didn't half the world google those words after the Boston bombings?

To be honest, I thought her story was a little fishy. Not that it counts for anything, but I had a hunch something didn't add up. I'm glad and surprised the story unfolded as quickly as it did, though. Kind of makes me wonder....

I mean, with this whole surveillance state thing, it can be used to explain various scenarios, which may be (partially) true, but it is a little disingenuous and misleading.

For me, it's more important to find out that XKeyscore is still going on and they are still recruiting engineers for it.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/08/nsas-internet-taps-can-find-systems-to-hack-track-vpns-and-word-docs/

Bringing up Iran is a good one.

Roy Edroso has some things to say about Pressurecookergate as well.

cheers me that this is what reverb motherfuckers grow up to be

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/02/the_whistleblower_may_have_to_hold_his_tongue

not gonna sign up to read that tbh

protip click the reader button in safari and the annoying signup box goes away

or disable javascript, or whatever

not lying: i read all mordy's foreign policy links through the greyed-out gap between the signup box and the bottom of the screen

Snowden's choice of Russia as the place to hide out from the U.S. justice system is "more than weird," says Vladimir Varfolomeyev, an editor at Echo of Moscow radio station. "He might as well be whistleblowing about America from North Korea, Iran, or Uzbekistan." Besides, if Snowden had heard of Pussy Riot or Magnitsky, he wouldn't have praised the rule of law in Russia, the journalist added.

'choice'
'had heard of'

what can we do to end the tedious meta-dialogue about whether his choice of asylum country is some kind of reflection of his aims as a leaker, that working to live somewhere else as an avoidance of decades in prison in his own country that felt the need to assure the world it would't torture or kill him doesn't hollow out the morality of his stance, i'm so fucking sick of this

/bruneau

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there is a discontuinity in that snowden being in russia is conditional on putin's glee in fucking over obama, which is a legacy of cold war tu quoque arguments, except that world no longer exists

so he is in a vestigial space between philby & sakharov and a more diffuse world order where dissidents seek sanctuary in whichever nation has relative political indemity or a demagogic interest in upsetting their country of origin

his eventual home will probably be one of those latin american nations that were humiliated by the treatment of evo morales in austria, in addition to the usual litany of complaints against america

Hey guys,

Just a quick note on getting around pay-wall articles: copy the URL, then go to www.google.com and paste it on there and search for it. Click on link. That should get rid of it.

Also, you can try Googling the headline/title of the article, but sometimes the article headline changes.

tbh is there much clucking among "lib" bloggers? Only Sully has tut-tutted.

paste it on there = paste it on Google's search field (in case it isn't obvious :S)

lolol

so an edit was made to snowden's wiki page to read "edward snowden is an american traitor"

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Snowden&diff=566904988&oldid=566903734

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156.33.241.5 looks to be located in Stafford, Virginia in United States based on our research.

Host: 156.33.241.5
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Organization: US Senate
City: Stafford
Region: Virginia

drunk intern strikes again

fuckin guy

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