katy perry - prism

Greg Kurstin has been producing for this apparently.

Well, he and Sia seem to travel in a pack.

She is vile.

sometimes i think that secretly benny blanco was the real reason for dr. luke's 2010 reign of terror on the billboard top 10

lmao is kp going altered zones

probably be about as listenable as laurel halo tbf

the title makes me think that Katy will be covering Dark Side of the Moon for this album.

Greg Kurstin has been producing for this apparently.

― Greer, Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:46 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

part of me is yay, part of me wishes he would spend his time on not katy perry

THIS IS THE PART OF ME

katy perry in listening to fun. shocker

http://donxxx.tumblr.com/post/57879423842/world-premiere-katy-perry-roar

roa-oa-oa-oa-oa-oar

The little Lumineers-y "hey!" stabs are making me die inside.

this sucks, unsurprisingly!

I don't know how I'll feel in two years about it. I originally thought "Firework" was one of the dumbest things I ever laid ears on, and now I love it unconditionally.

it's like mixing the lumineers, fun. and ke$ha in a blender and the result being almost as bad as you could have imagined

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FtjSa3y6mg

i don't hate it, amazingly (give it time, though). it's like a more tolerable "Girl On Fire."

i'm shocked i like this but i do

lyrics are crazy dumb tho

despite despising all but like 3 of katy perry's singles i'm still somehow terrified of what's gonna come of this album w/ no dr luke involvement

an interesting bit of stockholm syndrome

i really wish the lyrics on this weren't so awful... even worse than firework

I now wish i'd been louder 6 months ago when predicting that her next single would incorporate elements of civil war wave. I haven't heard the song yet, but just from reading the last page of posts... in writing it's predictable as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjecYugTbIQ

pretty sure dr. luke IS on this album after all: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/katy-perry-reteams-with-dr-luke-for-new-album-20130419

it appears that "roar" is luke/max/bonnie.

"[Wells] allows me to vomit words," Perry said.

wait she does that intentionally?!

Pretty much her signing technique.

thanking you ward fowler, that was tremendous

it's ok

wow, another empowerment anthem for gays and 12 year old girls, i'm so shocked

so sick of pop music pandering to lions, too

did you hear this Ward? katy perry sending a special message to Boycott. pretty funny.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01dz5mh

needs actual roars

"Perry also called working with "California Gurls" and "Teenage Dream" collaborator Bonnie McKee 'like an emotional abuse session'..."

ah, sensitive as always

As a songwriter she has this obnoxious habit of using cliched metaphors and turns of phrases in lieu of more specific lyrical details and this song might be the worst offender in her catalog on this front: bite my tongue, rock the boat, brush off the dust, eye of the tiger, float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, zero to hero.

she seems the kind of person who would think the stock phrases on a motivational poster are actually really poignant.

homie its ok if u want to say she's dumb

keep in mind this is the person who wrote "do you ever feel like a plastic bag drifting through the wind wanting to start again" and expected it to be meaningful

what would a plastic bag be doing with its second chance anyway

http://www2.epa.gov/sites/production/files/recycle3.jpg

http://www.etsy.com/search?q=recycled+plastic+bags

recycled plastic bags man
could be anything, another bag, a bottle, a rly cheap dildo, breathing tubes, hulk hogans shirt, a slip n slide, a project runway dress. sky's the limit, thats why the song is so inspiring 2 me.

unsurprisingly i love ROAR to bits

(sounds good in the car btw)

roar is just kp singing successories slogans over sara bareilles verses and butch walker choruses and the 'two weeks' beat

w/e

http://www.wonderworkshop.co.uk/images/iggy/iggy01.jpg

Surm otm

did anyone put any effort into this song? even by perry's standards this doesn't exactly scream lead single

and the lyrics are some platonic ideal of placeholder triteness

urgh this is horrible

i like the slogans; classic rock blankness

the chorus brings out the 13 year old girl in me, with one of those stretch headbands

wait maybe i mean 7 year old girl

it is a little shocking to me how much better this is than Gaga's single, especially considering that this isn't anything particularly special

in what universe is this better than gaga's single (which isn't even all that great)

labels tend to have to resort to costly measures to market these singles to radio because their sales and streaming stats are so paltry, namely discounting them on itunes for months on end and having them featured incessantly on the front page's "hot tracks" section, with both of these tactics costing a lot of money (not to mention lost revenue when discounted).

i'm not sure i get this. is plugging a song to radio more costly than it once was? why?

my impression was that pop radio in general is just getting lazy and playlisting whatever hits on streaming, but that the lag is only like a week. (i'm coming at this from a UK perspective keep in mind)

streaming vs radio here is pretty divided still, but radio just feels out of touch & like its lagging behind

radio lags way behind in the us still. here's an explanation of the itunes-plugging i'm referring to: http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/7503298/itunes-69-cent-song-discounts-chart-ascents-radio-plays

in short, the majority of songs promoted via discounting and forced front-page exposure on itunes actually lose money; the hope is that the sales boost will convince radio pd's to bump airplay up enough to offset the loss in revenue in the long run (unfortunately, tho, my impression is that this tactic produces few radio hits of actual longevity -- the kind radio are seeking out). while the situation is not as dire as, say, when mariah carey's label lost a ton of money deep-discounting her #2 'hit' single "loverboy" to give it a massive boost it up the charts in 2001 (it consequently became among the very last non-american idol physical single to sell over half a million stateside), it easily could become a similar crisis if the volume of download sales continues to nosedive at the rate it has been (we're basically at 2005 levels right now). keeping the itunes store up-and-running is not free!

"witness" would be a great lead single

as maura pointed out in the Paramore thread, there are three women in the American top twenty who aren't "muses for EDM dudes."

no no. two of them are muses for edm dudes and the other is julia michaels. (who has that whole "sounds about to sneeze" vocal affect going on.)

oh yeah, sorry

It's probably been discussed in another thread, but I'm curious why women are being shut out of the charts. Is it a programmer thing? I remember reading about country music programmers believing people didn't want to hear two songs by women in a row, but does that extend to Top 40 now? (Sorry if the answer to this is obvious, but we discuss this phenomenon a lot and I really have no idea what's behind it)

Trump Executive Order

given that Katy Perry, Rihanna, Adele and Taylor Swift have dominated the charts for most of the decade it's hard to see some kind of new conspiracy to shut women out of the charts.

oh god it's not a conspiracy. it's the way streaming reflects certain norms of taste, which reflect certain gender biases. pay attention.

a conspiracy, smh. sorry that women had equal time for once. gotta get the men back in control so things are neutral.

Yeah, because that's just what I said, men deserve dominance over the pop charts. Whatever.

not to mention, if you're going to argue that gender norms are leading to biased use of streaming by listeners, that's exactly the opposite of a conspiracy in the charts, unless the conspiracy was to include streaming in the chart formulas in the first place.

I would not be surprised if there was some stan-war element to it, people giving poor feedback to their pop stars not of choice

, if you're going to argue that gender norms are leading to biased use of streaming by listeners, that's exactly the opposite of a conspiracy in the chart

not to speak for maura but i think that's exactly what she's saying?

in other news tay zonday just followed me on twitter :o

here's a nice depressing image to remind us of how unkind/averse to women mass culture has been:

http://i.imgur.com/8qVw9ms.png

women rarely performed more than a quarter of hit singles on the pop charts and even in their "best" period (which was shortly before the dawn of the rock era) still weren't even cracking 40%. data in this graph only go to 1990 but i doubt it changed much in the years that followed. i have lots of recent years' chart data d/l'd to my computer so if i find the time maybe i will crunch numbers for the past few years to see just how badly representation of women has declined since that one summer when billboard was posting articles about how women were ruling.

(the figure comes from this 2005 research paper: https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/bitstream/1807/9925/1/Liddle-charting%20Gender.pdf )

my pet hypothesis is that the radio-format landscape is so divided along implicit gender and racial lines nowadays that you end up with one of two scenarios: when mainstream/top 40 pop is popping, (white) women can thrive and men temporarily take the backseat. when crossover hits are favored*, men dominate to an obscene extent. (women of color who aren't already established stars lose no matter what.)

(* from any direction; most non-pop radio formats are even more heavily male-dominated than pop is. adult contemporary is the only exception. however, mainstream ac is, with the exception of adele, virtually unable to break new singles nowadays, and for each rachel platten/p!nk single that hot ac manages to break, there'll be like 3 white-guys-with-guitars making the same moves.)

Really liking the music/production on this but the vocal lines/hooks are increidbly plodding.

i really hate the lyric you're 'bout as cute as an old coupon expired

Witness; officially a flop. But she has a cunning plan. Supposedly..

http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/katy-perrys-label-boss-says-shes-planning-a-comeback-after-a-disappointing-response-to-her-latest-album-witness__21456/

Not sure this will get Katy back on track commercially, but I really dig her new collaboration with Zedd. The video is great too and oddly moving. The whole thing kind of feels like a more successful attempt at what she was going for on Witness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrbgUtCfnC0

I liked Ex Machina in music video form better when Bjork did it twenty years ago and the tone of the song and visuals matched

new single, co-written with dagny! it's...good?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEb5gNsmGJ8

that's surprisingly nice, certainly the most i've ever liked one of her singles

this sound would have been a good fit for Taylor actually lol but alas

This is pretty good

it's funny taylor beat her to the pre-chorus marching band snares lol but this chorus does go to an unexpected place. not sure i would call it good exactly but it is something

the chorus is quite good imo

I really wasn't expecting that chorus. It's very I Want You by Savage Garden.

Really love this. Just the kind of single she needed to put out right now.

this song is fine but almost literally any other pop singer working today would deliver it better. (my first thought was carly rae jepsen, but I could easily imagine halsey, kelsea ballerini, even someone like sabrina carpenter)

Well Dagny already had a go at it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnQBqinwlwQ

I'm not particular about technical skills or talent in pop music but her voice is distractingly bad on this, sometimes she is a great pop star and sometimes she is just a pop star but it still amazes me that she's managed to have such longevity given how obvious her strain in her voice is

i think it's pretty good. certainly an improvement over the single that led off witness.

Her new single isn't bad either, and this might bode well for her upcoming album whenever it'll come out, but Katy Perry will still be the worst thing about Katy Perry songs

major label artists aren't permitted to release albums anymore unless they score a big hit single (a 'bullet') first, unless they have an adele/swift-like track record of pushing units in the past. maybe she'll get to put out an ep.

it's pretty boring to me but perhaps the charlie puth stans will like it given his involvement

Small Talk is nice enough, but it's too slight to give her the big hit she/they want to launch another album.

Never Really Over remains one of the best songs of the year. I'm shocked it wasn't massive.

i grew to love it

"never really over" i mean, not the new song which i haven't heard

lol so now i've heard it and when she sang "small talk" i was like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZdC7vvUCo