DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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Considering the proposals will everyone with a copy of 'Irreversible' have their collars felt?

piscesx, Monday, 22 July 2013 12:27 (ten years ago) link

Good smokescreen for Lynton Crosby all this, eh?

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 22 July 2013 12:29 (ten years ago) link

Not that I care that much about Lynton Crosby or even think there's much of a story there but Cameron's squirming over it is hilarious if somewhat inexplicable

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 22 July 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link

How would this thing even work? Would ISPs simply block known porn sites or would they check content for keywords or what? Cos if it's the latter then I've seen it suggested that it could prevent teenagers from accessing LGBT sites etc

It's just a cover to distract attention away from other shit. Pretty soon in the DAILY MAIL OMG ROYAL BABY SOUVENIR EDITION there'll be a bit in the bottom corner of page 13 where some government spokesperson says "Oh that porn filter thing? It'll be opt in instead, using software ISPs already provide."

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Monday, 22 July 2013 12:45 (ten years ago) link

chill guys, objectification doesn't deprave and corrupt unless it's got cocks in it

what makes a man start polls? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 July 2013 12:49 (ten years ago) link

How would this thing even work?

It won't, essentially.

stet, Monday, 22 July 2013 12:49 (ten years ago) link

Well, Rupert Murdoch doesn't own any pr0n websites.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Monday, 22 July 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link

if the ban were to be introduced does anybody know where i'd be able to obtain bikini shots of barely legal teens?

what makes a man start polls? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 July 2013 12:51 (ten years ago) link

People interested in such photos could still buy the Daily Mail in a newsagent.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Monday, 22 July 2013 12:52 (ten years ago) link

thanks, that's good to know

what makes a man start polls? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 July 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link

Basically if this becomes law, anyone you see on a bus reading the Daily Mail is probably a ped0.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Monday, 22 July 2013 12:55 (ten years ago) link

i tend to make that assumption anyway, since most Daily Mail readers wouldn't be caught dead on a bus

what makes a man start polls? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 July 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link

What's the Daily Express's line on all this?

Matt DC, Monday, 22 July 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link

PENSIONERS TO COOK THEN DROWN IN ARCTIC HEATWAVE THUNDERFLOOD NIGHTMARE

will there be a sting operation to review what the PM's google search terms contained in the past?

^ sarcasm (ken c), Monday, 22 July 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link

or will any findings be classified as "for research purposes" #townsend

^ sarcasm (ken c), Monday, 22 July 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link

xxxp Dirty Desmond must be rubbing his hands with glee given the boost it will provide for his p0rn channels, I should think

Neil S, Monday, 22 July 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link

Better throw away that old vhs copy of "the accused".
Haven't most soaps had the odd rape and abused woman?
I don't watch them but I'm sure it's been mentioned.

not_goodwin, Monday, 22 July 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link

i can't believe you have just admitted to owning such things on a public internet forum

^ sarcasm (ken c), Monday, 22 July 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

under currently existed paedo porn rules, couldn't we report the sun hq for all the pictures they have of half naked 16 yr old girls in their archives?

NI, Monday, 22 July 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link

what's the legal status of those actually, will they have had to censor all archived copies, physical and online? or does it come under same kind of exemption as like a 17th century painting of a naked kid? and if some dirty old goat dilligently collected all sun under-18 page 3s until they changed the law and the police raided his house for something unrelated, could he get arrested for those?

NI, Monday, 22 July 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link

that totally sounds like im 'asking for a friend' but im not, honest. just curious at the whole tangled legal mess of all this

NI, Monday, 22 July 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link

It depends NI - had you been collecting this stuff before or after the ban came in? By the way, rather you than me, mate, think you made a bad decision.

cardamon, Monday, 22 July 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link

Less a decision, more a hobby. A sticky hobby.

glumdalclitch, Monday, 22 July 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link

i see my role more as curator than pervert

NI, Monday, 22 July 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link

In seriousness I don't know what the legality of page 3 is but I think it's a manifestation of a kind of creepy, bad British sexuality and some manifestation of that or other will always be allowed/enforced whatever else gets banned

cardamon, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 03:56 (ten years ago) link

Like in Russia, you get the combination of shockingly brutal state homophobia + yet anorexic blonde sex-doll ideal for the women and girls. In a particular strata of America you get gaybashing and slutshaming and purity rings + yet the coiling, jumping, smiling bodies of cheerleaders. In Italy and some other latin countries, teenagers having anal sex to get round the catholic sexual taboos because those taboos are so strong + the idea that a Woman is Beautiful and Sensual.

Parallels might be drawn with Iran and Saudi too but I'm not qualified to say. To be honest the above is probably horribly reductive too. But the point is there's always some form of sexuality that's allowed in, and page 3 is ours.

cardamon, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 04:05 (ten years ago) link

up against tough competition, claire perry making valiant play for the actual most stupid current MP: http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/2013/07/24/cameron-porn-advisors-website-hacked-threatenslibels-blogger/

lex pretend, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 10:43 (ten years ago) link

Next week: members of the Flat Earth Society are brought in as advisors to the UK Space Agency.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 11:21 (ten years ago) link

God, imagine being a government so racist that Nigel Farage felt the need to call you out for being too racist.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 July 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link

"Go home or face arrest" sounds like something from one of Nick Griffin's wet dreams.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Thursday, 25 July 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link

out of interest, if you're arrested for not going home what's the punishment?

Mancunian stagger (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 July 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link

You get to stay in the UK...

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Thursday, 25 July 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link

Or they make you a member of the Royal Family or something.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Thursday, 25 July 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link

saw this being retweeted earlier re: this campaign

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rlig1e

gyac, Thursday, 25 July 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link

tbh probably very little thought has been given to how actual illegal immigrants might take it- the campaign isn't aimed at them.

using "GO HOME" as a phrase is the offensive bit, right?

^ sarcasm (ken c), Thursday, 25 July 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

out of interest, if you're arrested for not going home what's the punishment?

Deportation, iirc. You might be kept in a detention centre while awaiting deportation but it's not a given.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 July 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link

For those too lazy to click:

a friend complained about the #racistvan; her report is well worth a read:

"I just spoke to the Home Office via their text-callback service about the 'GO HOME OR FACE ARREST' billboards. Very interesting conversation with the woman working there: she recorded my complaint, warned me that notes of complaint via that route were being binned and quietly gave me the official Home Office complaints address: Home Office, Direct Communications Unit, 2 Marsham Street, London SW1P 4DF.

"Then she told me she and her colleagues felt the message was counterproductive and would increase fear, making it less possible for destitute migrants or people who might want to claim asylum to approach the HO for help - and she said she'd raised this with the PCS and was hopeful that the union would respond. So, in summary, even the Home Office's own staff don't want to deal with the fallout of this campaign."

aldi young dudes (suzy), Thursday, 25 July 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link

WE! SA!! LUTE!!! YER!!!!

Mark G, Thursday, 25 July 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link

the campaign isn't aimed at them.

Yeah, it's an attempt to try and convince people who were thinking of voting for UKIP to vote Tory instead. Paid for by taxpayer's money.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Thursday, 25 July 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

Trust me, any expat/migrant/child of migrants looking at that thing is thinking NO, FUCK *YOU*.

aldi young dudes (suzy), Thursday, 25 July 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link

http://scriptonitedaily.wordpress.com/2013/07/30/newsflash-uk-border-agency-id-checking-people-of-colour-at-train-stations/

Forget the van, this is the absolute worst.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 09:40 (ten years ago) link

Apparently there are liberals in prominent positions in the British government.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 09:42 (ten years ago) link

jfc i keep doing Children of Men jokes but this has gone way beyond

UMA DAS MELHORES MUSICAS DELA (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 09:42 (ten years ago) link

This is shocking. I would be surprised if the UKBA itself had a hand in deciding this was a good idea or a good use of resources. This has everything to do with the realigning of control that saw them coming back under Home Office command.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 10:04 (ten years ago) link


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