Let's talk about Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and how unbelievably fucked up this all is

there are good ones too

Marc New York City NYT Pick

The President understates the issue because he must try to explain but not inflame. His experience with being followed, or having similar types of encounters, is common for black men and it permeates our lives. I am an older black manager in an office in Lower Manhattan, not threatening in size or demeanor (and I even wear a tie), but I have been followed in stores, twice accused of stealing (while I was on my way to the register to pay for goods), refused service in a restaurant, told by security guards that I alone could not stand on a well known public plaza in Midtown, received irrational hostility from police, etc., etc. I had the police called on me when I was taking a picture, from a well-populated public park in Queens, of a sunset framed by the NYC skyline --the caller suggested I was taking photos for terrorist purposes with my average Canon SLR--and the police came and questioned me as a result. None of this makes sense. I don't share this stuff often with my white co-workers because they don''t believe it. But black males, many of whom have endured far more (such as my older brother), can trade endless stories. Protest is almost futile. Any miscalculated response can lead to our being arrested or worse, just because. The President was just dropping a hint, telling black citizens he understands, knowing that there is great skepticism, or outright acceptance of such conditions, by his white constituency.
July 19, 2013 at 12:50 p.m. RECOMMENDED 436

^the REAL racist

the positive way to think about this is that if the president's comments hadn't provoked any racist bullshit, that would have meant they weren't useful

the "reasonable man" as applied in stand your ground cases has become a solipsist, encased in his own universe, "reasonably" obeyant to his own paranoias and prejudices. Hallucinations and motes in one's eye now justify slaying someone in self-defense. Who needs a panopticon when all that matters is what's in your head?

― collardio gelatinous, Friday, July 19, 2013 2:29 PM (2 hours ago)

And team and ideology and brand and national and 'racial' loyalty are the only things most people can be bothered about

― Lectures of Pelé (Michael White), Friday, July 19, 2013 2:33 PM (2 hours ago)

^^ this, dead on.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/07/19/the_very_polite_conservative_response_to_obama_s_trayvon_martin_speech.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-met-kass-0721-20130721,0,6446588.column

Kass is such a fucking jackass

shudder!

― mundane peaceable username (darraghmac), Friday, July 19, 2013 11:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

another fantastic contribution to a serious thread, thanks for your effort.

xxx

I'd say more but I don't want you accusing me of ad hom and threatening to get the mods on me.

Very wise *slaps hand with rubber sap*

Shut the fuck up, dude

sorry guys, stevie otm i have been a dick around the place lately and this especially is not the thread for it. i'll absent myself.

guys, george zimmerman is an American hero

http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-truck-crash-rescue-174553647--abc-news-topstories.html

cool

Does this guy have a job?

Sharpton should be indited for federal hate crimes. Zimmerman is a good guy and willing to help people. He took a black girl to the school prom and mentors young black men and even, dare I say, voted for Obama which in my opinion was a big mistake.

I don't know what happened the night Trayvon Martin was killed and I don't care. All I know is I'd rather have a George Zimmerman walking around than a Trayvon Martin.

okay this got horrible real quick

diplopia • 3 hours ago
Bet trayvon Martin wouldn't have done this.

Esteban • 2 hours 58 minutes agoReport Abuse
Certainly not now.

robert mcmullin • 1 hour 39 minutes agoReport Abuse
No he'd have stolen the occupants jewelry.. LOL

Dodge Ram 1500 • 15 minutes agoReport Abuse
Trayvon would have robed them blind and left.

Chris • 13 minutes agoReport Abuse
Traygone would have tried to sell them the weed he was growing and after they bought it would have robbed them. Martins a hero, so glad a known gangbanging thug like Traygone is off the streets for GOOD.

http://hnn.us/articles/roots-white-rage

Amidst all the ink that has been spilled this week regarding the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the murder of Trayvon Martin, a disturbing theme has emerged. Whether talking about Zimmerman's individual mindset, or the mindset of the Florida legislators who passed the now-infamous Stand Your Ground (SYG) law, or the mentality of white Americans in general with regard to young black men, the idea that fear is at the heart of the matter has emerged as a popular explanation for Martin's murder. However, there is another emotion with perhaps even greater historical valence for understanding these events: rage.

Take, for instance, Zimmerman's own words to the 911 operator the day of the killing. "Assholes" and "f*cking punks" were the words he used to describe the person he was following. Those words denote anger and resentment but not fear. Zimmerman only indicated he was afraid of Martin after he had killed him.

sorry, graphic lynching photo at that link, btw

can we stop pointlessly reposting racist internet comments to ilx

^^^

Yeah this.

oh frogbs was REPOSTING things he saw somewhere else, i was confused about those blue boxes

zing

how is this something that really happened and not something jenna maroney attempted to stage

(by which i mean the truck rescue)

i'm kinda continuing to assume its staged until/unless the people involved get quoted somewhere

did the youngest child say "you got me" when Zimm rescued him?

oh frogbs was REPOSTING things he saw somewhere else, i was confused about those blue boxes

― Tavis Emoji (some dude), Monday, July 22, 2013 6:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

LOL! I'm an idiot and I don't understand things!

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/greek-icarus-flying-sun-illustration-cartoon-tone-29971603.jpg

I grew up in the Chicago suburb where Drew Peterson lived and worked.

A high-school friend just posted on Facebook:

"Drew Peterson, an ACTUAL cop, once responded to a car accident I was in. Then he murdered 2 of his wives."

U have good friends :)

Be extremely wary of posts containing the name 'Antonio Wesy': they are really really gross

West*

I think I saw someone in my family post some "Antonio West" thing, but I didn't read it.

yeah the Antonio West thing is really really stupid, it's a horrible story but at least the killers are going to jail

http://25.media.tumblr.com/4eae7e3ad8ca9c611f8fac8aac199a8e/tumblr_mqctov3wxv1qapt9zo1_500.jpg

cornel west called obama a "global zimmerman" LOLLL

http://m.democracynow.org/stories/13784

See also:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/07/22/if_trayvon_were_pakistani_signature_strikes_profiling

reminds me of the bill hicks routine (breaking the link to avoid an embed) http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbO0f9uaWZE

pick up the gun...

Well I'm shocked...

http://ivn.us/penigma/2013/07/25/george-zimmermans-heroic-car-crash-rescue-appears-to-be-a-fraud/

this is all from a report from "newsball.com", who are also on a weird witch hunt to expose the names/identities of the six jurors? idk man

It's true that this is all only on alternative sites so who knows but on the other hand, people willingly ate up the original story despite it being iffy and somewhat contradicted by the 911 tapes.

What i find disgusting are all the folks who seemed to think this 'cancelled' his previous deeds.

I will not go Full-Lorax tho

never go Full Lorax

this is all from a report from "newsball.com", who are also on a weird witch hunt to expose the names/identities of the six jurors? idk man

― arby's, Saturday, July 27, 2013 4:24 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i do think its interesting that after the first juror came out and appeared to be a p serious 'supporter' of Z, several other jurors and said they didn't share her thinking, and that the latest one to come out says 'we all felt in our hearts he was guilty,' like to have been a fly on that deliberation room wall

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/28/us/dc-robbery-hate-crime/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

mm-hm.

if you haven't figured out yet not to be a drunk idiot walking home alone from admo on a saturday night i don't know what to tell you

i guess every day someone's born who's never seen the flintstones

I can't parse your Simpson's ref Hoos, but for the time being I'm just writing this off as some Ashley Todd shit.