Let's talk about Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and how unbelievably fucked up this all is

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might also help not to post under the dn 'boy_slayer' right now too fyi

you are absolutely right. this s/n was dumb in the first place, but it's probably just too much now.

first reason i'm not gonna post: too pissed to say anything coherent.
second reason i'm not gonna post: my lame s/n.

hair like e.j. dionne (boy_slayer), Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:02 (ten years ago) link

yes -- and now I luckily don't have to talk to, see, or otherwise communicate with anyone I knew when i did!

bando calrissian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:03 (ten years ago) link

head defense dude just now: "Zimmerman didn't know why he was turned into [a monster], but it was you guys, the media, who did that to him."

Clay, Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link

it was so sad that day that the media murdered a child and blamed it on poor defenseless george zimmerman.

Clay, Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:08 (ten years ago) link

can i kickstart a riot? is that a thing?

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link

xxp ignoring the people i once knew doesn't make them go away and i'd rather know what they're really thinking then have it surprise me when i visit.
wondering if its corny to wear a hoodie to the park tomorrow

ugh this is so horrible

call all destroyer, Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:12 (ten years ago) link

tn is the deep south?

mookieproof, Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:12 (ten years ago) link

think it is conceivably reassuring for someone to see one being worn?, idk

szarkasm (schlump), Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:14 (ten years ago) link

disgraceful decision

Treeship, Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link

it was looking like this verdict was kind of inevitable though? from a legal standpoint.

circa1916, Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:29 (ten years ago) link

from a this society is the worst just fuck it standpoint

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:35 (ten years ago) link

i don't know about the legal particulars of the case but whatever they are they are bullshit.

Treeship, Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link

you shouldn't be able to harass people and then shoot them because you have a vigilante fantasy. the law should be designed to prevent people from doing this.

Treeship, Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:38 (ten years ago) link

humans are garbage

Just Elevate... And Decide In The Air -- Above the Rim (dan m), Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:39 (ten years ago) link

one of my best friends is garbage

mookieproof, Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link

the others are cats?

Zimmerman's brother: "Trayvon Martin had the right to go home".

collardio gelatinous, Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:49 (ten years ago) link

there was never any legal complexity here, there aren't two sides to most issues. there's no excuse.

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:51 (ten years ago) link

fucking ann coulter fucking everyone
i am turning off media for the night

Zimmerman's brother going after Trayvon on CNN

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:59 (ten years ago) link

I basically just outed my brother's lifelong bigotry on facebook to prove a point. He still doesn't get it.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 14 July 2013 03:59 (ten years ago) link

times like these make me glad i don't have facebook

k3vin k., Sunday, 14 July 2013 04:01 (ten years ago) link

in case you're not feeling despair about the state of america you might want to try searching twitter for "fireworks" right now

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 14 July 2013 04:07 (ten years ago) link

https://twitter.com/Steele_Michael/status/356245351130337282

balls, Sunday, 14 July 2013 04:15 (ten years ago) link

in case you're not feeling despair about the state of america you might want to try searching twitter for "fireworks" right now

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, July 14, 2013 4:07 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was pretty sure I heard fireworks immediately after the verdict and thought it couldn't possibly be true, and then a friend from florida and a friend from Minnesota said they heard the same thing in their neighborhoods.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 14 July 2013 04:21 (ten years ago) link

what kind of an idiot family whose last name is zimmerman would name one of their sons robert? they didn't know that one was taken?

Treeship, Sunday, 14 July 2013 04:49 (ten years ago) link

You mean by Bob Dylan??? No, I would say they didn't know it was taken. Surely no more than 1% of the US population knows that "Robert Zimmerman" was Bob Dylan's birth name.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:01 (ten years ago) link

that can't be true. at least 96% of american households have a copy of hunky dory, in which bowie at addresses dylan as "robert zimmerman" on "song for dylan".

Treeship, Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:04 (ten years ago) link

no wonder Robert Zimmerman became such fast friends with Gordon Sumner and Archibald Leach at school

Gukbe, Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:07 (ten years ago) link

there was never any legal complexity here

mmm, kinda was. not to pee on the outrage parade, i think it's gross that this dude gets off completely clean, but it's pretty hard to nail this dude down based on the rules of the game.

circa1916, Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:08 (ten years ago) link

i say dude way too much.

circa1916, Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:09 (ten years ago) link

GZ created a situation where a situation wasn't, and that situation resulted in the discharge of a sidearm that fatally injured an unarmed person. He was negligent from the get-go and a manslaughter conviction should've been a slam dunk.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:10 (ten years ago) link

But didn't the prosecutor go for murder rather than manslaughter? That's a much higher hurdle, because you need to prove intent, right? Zimmerman should be in jail right now, for manslaughter.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:12 (ten years ago) link

They were able to add a manslaughter charge before the jury was sent to deliberations.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:13 (ten years ago) link

I didn't follow the trial, but was that a last minute addition, or did they explain the case for manslaughter from the start? I just don't see how he could not be guilty of manslaughter. I mean, I do see, but I don't ... see.

Meanwhile: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:14 (ten years ago) link

Media right now: "bla bla riot bla bla bla riot bla bla riot"

StanM, Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:21 (ten years ago) link

i'm glad IF trayvon got a few swings in before he was shot.

mods feel free to delete this post, if necessary.

hair like e.j. dionne (boy_slayer), Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:29 (ten years ago) link

Even though I'm not surprised, I'm really upset by this. both by the lack of justice for Trayvon, and the disgusting behaviors it's already prompted. and because I'm about 25 miles from it, I'm not likely to hear the end of it anytime soon.

I don't think I can say anything else about this atm.

staff rules everything around Mi (Neanderthal), Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:46 (ten years ago) link

i would wear a hoodie (with dress shirt and tie beneath) for the next week if it weren't summer. i know it's stupid. i just. want to. scream.

AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHGHHGHGHGHGHGHGHHHHHHHHH.

hair like e.j. dionne (boy_slayer), Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:50 (ten years ago) link

i guess it's just saturday night. but, i want this thread to clusterfuck with yelling and screaming and such. i hope you lot, which are not here, are pissed wherever you are (i know that a lot of you are finding out on tvs at bars, yr friends, etc.)

welcome princess of hell (boy_slayer), Sunday, 14 July 2013 05:58 (ten years ago) link

you are seriously the fucking worst

go troll for attention somewhere else, asshole

mookieproof, Sunday, 14 July 2013 06:01 (ten years ago) link

mookieproof otm

staff rules everything around Mi (Neanderthal), Sunday, 14 July 2013 06:04 (ten years ago) link

also can I just say thank you to everyone in this thread for the reminder that there are decent people that exist in this world.

staff rules everything around Mi (Neanderthal), Sunday, 14 July 2013 06:05 (ten years ago) link

Well, it's official, folks: murder is legal in the state of Florida.

del griffith, Sunday, 14 July 2013 06:20 (ten years ago) link

Murder your own toddler, murder a neighbor's kid, murder everybody! It's a free for all!

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 14 July 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link

*if you're white

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 14 July 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link

GZ created a situation where a situation wasn't, and that situation resulted in the discharge of a sidearm that fatally injured an unarmed person. He was negligent from the get-go and a manslaughter conviction should've been a slam dunk.

otm. I don't think there was enough evidence to convict him of murder but my god there should've been enough for SOMETHING. so sad/angry that someone can do what GZ did in this country and not be punished whatsoever. the fact that some people are gloating/cheering over the decision is truly sickening.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 14 July 2013 06:29 (ten years ago) link

Well, it's official, folks: murder is legal in the state of Florida.

― del griffith, Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:20 AM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

basically. if you start a confrontation that escalates into a brawl, and then you shoot the other person dead, you should be alright. provided said other person is the only witness and you have demonstrable injuries (however minor) to attest to the brawl.

reminder to self: don't patronize any bars in florida.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 14 July 2013 07:07 (ten years ago) link

i'd like to read a lawyer's, or someone smart at the NYer or something, take on the manslaughter charge

k3vin k., Sunday, 14 July 2013 07:16 (ten years ago) link


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