Let's talk about Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and how unbelievably fucked up this all is

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Most Americans I imagine go their entire lives with little to no exposure to the criminal justice system. It takes stuff like celebrity trials or other salacious spectacles to put the legal system in the spotlight, which is messed up on so many levels, since they are the farthest thing from indicative of how things usually work. And yet they become the basis of commonplace armchair judgement for years to come after the fact.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 July 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link

Other than traffic court, I imagine most go their entire lives with little exposure to the court system, period.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Friday, 12 July 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link

Rivera's such a shitwad

Puff Daddy, whoever the fuck you are. I am dissapoint. (stevie), Friday, 12 July 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link

Most people who will have an opinion on the Trayvon verdict probably haven't watched a substantial amount of the actual trial, let alone the whole trial.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Friday, 12 July 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link

yknow i'm always surprised at what a shitty human being geraldo is, you'd think i'd be desensitized to his shittiness by now and yet

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Friday, 12 July 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link

you think people still clown him about capone's safe?

goole, Friday, 12 July 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link

or getting hit with a chair

goole, Friday, 12 July 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

people forget he used to be even more of a sensational whore than he is now

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Friday, 12 July 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

This isn't all that relevant, but Geraldo Rivera is a graduate of my law school, and his big "gift" to the law school was this crappy "cafe" on the ground floor of the main student housing building, which is called Geraldo's -- a sort of institutional-looking room with carpeted walls and a neon, cursive "Geraldo's" sign. It looks sort of like a snack bar from a 90s sitcom. But the thing is, my law school is in the middle of a neighborhood teeming with good cafes and restaurants, so no one ever went there and they stopped running it as a cafe after like two years. So now it's just this sad empty room with a neon "Geraldo's" sign where occasionally a couple of people can be found studying.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, 12 July 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link

omg that's hilarious

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Friday, 12 July 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link

Amazing

waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link

did the sign have a blinking neon mustache?

Spectrum, Friday, 12 July 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link

man I can't find photos

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 July 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link

yeah I can't find a good one either, although fwiw I think I am misremembering carpeted walls and it was actually wood-paneled walls. In any case, it didn't look like a real cafe and the sign was ridiculous.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, 12 July 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

Found one--this is when it was under construction, iobviouslty

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aE_aWSx44U0/UOyNur-dj6I/AAAAAAAAQXY/eQIsVmiK7YQ/s320/19620-C201011-Top-40-OMG-Geraldo-Rivera-Capone.jpg

waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link

His autobiography is awesome, especially the part where he talks about his sexual prowess.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Friday, 12 July 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link

if I know BLS had that sign I probably would've gone there

Spectrum, Friday, 12 July 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link

*knew

Spectrum, Friday, 12 July 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link

oh here
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/02/05/nyregion/thecity/05gera_lg.jpg

maybe airport lounge or conference room is a more appropriate comparison, but the sign always made me think of saved by the bell or something like that

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, 12 July 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link

xp yup, looks like law school. i wonder if there's a standard "law school study lounge" look builders have on file. i was hoping it'd be like the Max, with neon geometric shapes and Ettore Sottsass style animal prints everywhere

Spectrum, Friday, 12 July 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link

defense attorneys are such clowns and meanwhile the prosecution is hitting hard at the end here "isn't it every child's worst nightmare to be followed by a stranger in the dark?"

i really think they're gonna convict for manslaughter. they gotta.

sleepingbag, Friday, 12 July 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link

lmao @ Geraldo's

latebloomer, Friday, 12 July 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link

the actual picture of Geraldo's makes it seem much less bleak than I was hoping/expecting

iatee, Friday, 12 July 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link

that neon sign with the gifting statement below it is incredibly sorta lol but mostly sad.

jk, it's fucking MEGALOL.

law lounge looks just like everyones except the lighting scheme is like a weirdass starship flyover

a hand, palming an ilx face forever (Hunt3r), Friday, 12 July 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

it's very era-specific. everything is in the shape of an ellipse

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Friday, 12 July 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

i think i can hear sad lonely saxophone just looking at that fucking sign.

a hand, palming an ilx face forever (Hunt3r), Friday, 12 July 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link

Needs a neon-animated sign of a chair hitting a guy.

nickn, Friday, 12 July 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link

10:20 a.m. ET: "Four minutes -- that felt like a long time to you, that we sat here and did nothing for four minutes? You get to think what Trayvon Martin was doing," said O'Mara. "Four minutes to do what? To walk home? Run home? The four minute mile was broken when I was like, 12… I do know you can run a mile in about four minutes if you’re in decent shape."

This is complete and utter horseshit. A "decent shape" mile time is like 6-8 minutes; he's talking about running as fast as top US high school athletes as being in "decent shape".

"Post-Oven" (DJP), Friday, 12 July 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link

Rivera had gone forward in time to check out the Daft Punk record when tossing around design ideas.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 July 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link

I do know you can run a mile in about four minutes if you’re in decent shape

you know how athletic those black teens are.

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Friday, 12 July 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

ugh sorry, i just

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Friday, 12 July 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

12:51 p.m. ET: "This case is not about race, it’s about right and wrong. It’s that simple," Guy said. He asks them to reverse the roles and imagine Zimmerman walking home in the rain with a hoodie and Martin with "hate in his heart" driving around in the car.

"If it was Trayvon Martin who had shot and killed George Zimmerman, what would your verdict be? That's how you know, it's not about race. To the living we owe respect but to the dead we owe the truth."

omg legal jujitsu, a real-life invocation of the "A Time To Kill" gambit

I want to applaud at my desk

"Post-Oven" (DJP), Friday, 12 July 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

meanwhile a number of twitter conservatives are preparing themselves for riots

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Friday, 12 July 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link

somehow I can see many folks' answer to this question

If it was Trayvon Martin who had shot and killed George Zimmerman, what would your verdict be?
to be very much about race

chinavision!, Friday, 12 July 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link

but I mean if that works correctly then it should be eye opening for the person who goes "oh yeah in that case, guilty!" of course

chinavision!, Friday, 12 July 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link

How does a conservative person prepare for a riot?

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Friday, 12 July 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link

I'm not writing very well formulated posts, but I just imagine the way many people would answer that question and it makes me feel worse, not better.
xpost

chinavision!, Friday, 12 July 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

I found this one:

Kathryn Jean Lopez ‏@kathrynlopez 2h
I once had an odd exchange with Janet Napolitano involving existential matters. I'd tell you more, but it was off the record.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 July 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

lol

⚓ (elmo argonaut), Friday, 12 July 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link

meanwhile window breakers on FB are reminding each other in advance not to film unmasked people

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 12 July 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link

"if you plan to take action to support trayvon, remember..."

x|

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 12 July 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link

jury could have a verdict today if they're in agreement. nobody wants jury duty hanging over their weekend enjoyment.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 12 July 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link

reading transmetropolitan, just got to this bit:

http://i.imgur.com/DaqILtR.jpg

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 12 July 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

this stuff is making my stomach hurt

especially when i got tricked into clicking on a link saying the verdict's in and it was a picture of a dead kid lying on grass
fuck everybody


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