one weird overlap between tao lin fans and tedious drug talk fans
― adam, Thursday, 11 July 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link
does the narrator think about student loans when he's on drugs?
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
He doesn't have student loan debt i don't think.
― Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
from what I remember reading his parents paid for his degree at NYU and bought him an apartment in the city
― Spectrum, Thursday, 11 July 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
if i had lots of money i would probably do tons of drugs. i love drugs. but i never have money for drugs AND records. one of them had to go. plus, i gotta get up in the morning...
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 July 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
dylannn's drugs version of Brewster's Millions has taught you nothing then
― sausagehat (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link
i dated a girl who was a trust-fund druggo and briefly brushed up with that world. it's fucking depressing. maybe i'm just getting flashbacks with this.
― Spectrum, Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link
When ppl say stuff like that I feel like lex a couple of years ago being baffled at weeknnd fans talking about how depressing parties are
― ^do not heed if you rate me (wins), Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link
Idk maybe trust fund druggos are doing it really wrong but drvqs are great
― ^do not heed if you rate me (wins), Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link
the voice of young america has parents to put him/her through nyu and pay for an apartment in the city and drug abuse? that represents so many young americans. high five
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
i love drugs. they're the best. sometimes i wish someone would give me some cocaine. i used to love that stuff. snorted my weight in coke in high school. haven't done it since my stripper girlfriend brought some home in the early 90's. she got it as a tip. i love that smell. i don't know anyone who does it though. or they aren't telling me if they do. hallucinogens i could probably get around here, but i wouldn't do that anywhere near my kids. my kids would have to be safely in another state. or i would have to be. i love pain pills and opiates. would swallow any of that anyone has handy. never wanted to do heroin once i found out that if you do it enough you don't get high anymore you just do it to maintain and not get sick. which seems like a drag. i like getting high. i don't really do anything much anymore though. sad to say. don't even drink really. smoke pot occasionally. i actually just broke down and bought some pot. only smoke at night though. no big deal. netflix. i don't really like doing drugs with other people. just like to watch t.v. i'm a boring drug lover. don't really have much interest in club/internet/designer drugs that make you feel like you are dead and in a hole and all that. i'm too old for that shit. ecstacy is fun though. would do. all drugs are fun if you don't do them too much. i took way too much valium/xanax in high school - my dad had an endless supply - and it really did a number on me. i was already depressed, so, i was just adding insult to injury. should have just stuck to the acid and the coke and the booze. the fun stuff.
oh, but anyway, most drug novels are kinda bad. there are exceptions of course. jesus' son. requiem for a dream. to name two.
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
Has any author ever represented all young Americans
― ^do not heed if you rate me (wins), Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
as long as they represent the richest young americans i'm all for it
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link
"Has any author ever represented all young Americans"
judy blume? maurice sendak? richard scarry?
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link
I dont think his parents send him money in this book but they seem to have paid for his college. That makes him as privileged as i am, i guess. My dad also lives in a major asian capital too but im not ethnically asian. If i write a novel i'll make sure to not send you a copy.
I sort of hate drugs to an extent i am embarassed about. They've only ever made things worse for me.
― Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
literature and culture serve a class function since we don't have an outright aristocracy here, so it's not a shock we mostly just get novels by and about rich kids farting around for a couple hundred pages. doesn't mean there isn't any value there ... somewhere... but it's a little wearying when there aren't any relatable voices in a medium you love.
― Spectrum, Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
You need to have a good deal of free time to write a novel so that's a factor. Although, maybe not because the writers of the past seemed busy. Clarice Lispector was in law school and working full time as a journalist when she wrote near to the wild heart
― Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
I don't think you need a ton of free time, you just need passion + enthusiasm
― waterface, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
so it's not a shock we mostly just get novels by and about rich kids farting around for a couple hundred pages. doesn't mean there isn't any value there ... somewhere... but it's a little wearying when there aren't any relatable voices in a medium you love.
This is some bullshit!
― waterface, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link
What part? Privileged ppl are overrepresented in literature, pretty clearly.
― Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
Novels by and about rich kids farting around. Not true and believe me if there's one thing I know, it's farting.
― waterface, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link
i was lucky to grow up in a grittier era
http://covers.openlibrary.org/b/id/6622437-M.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AMBLVX9NnzM/TgfuY8BXxaI/AAAAAAAAAUE/gZh2K-wmIYE/s320/nittygritty.jpg
http://img1.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n13/n69840.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link
"Real and Tough"
― Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link
- bret easton ellis
― """""""""""""stalin""""""""""" (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link
treeship if you write a novel i would read it. i don't hate privileged people. i question their monopoly on greatness that's all
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
tao lin is the face of white privilege
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
or asian-american privilege
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
tao lin is an anchor baby
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
tao lin's parents are convicted felons
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
tao lin is a miscegenist and child pornographer glorified by the leftwing media
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link
tao lin is marijuana
― waterface, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link
lol dylannn
― Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link
those whose parents pay for their $200,000 NYU tuitions and expensive NYC housing and medicine cabinets, right on
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link
life is so depressing!
yep makes you wonder where they got all that money.
― dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link
tommy wiseau?
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theliftedbrow.com/12-poems-by-tao-lin/
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link
Pyrazolam, which as the name suggests is structurally very closely related to alprazolam, is like a mild xanax in that it doesn't have much of a benzo buzz, yet its anxiolytic properties are as strong, or if anything, stronger. If you're actually wanting something functional, rather than a euphoric high, I'd say they're the best benzo ever, both for dealing with ordinary anxiety-producing situations, and for cancelling out the bad effects of come-downs. They're currently legal to buy online in U.K. £45 for 250.
[Being wary of analogue provisions in the Misuse of Drugs Act, 1971, I double-checked by calling my local county police force (using non-emergency "101") to ask if it was ok for me to possess these; they said they'd check with the national police drugs agency then get back to me in 15 minutes, when I was informeed - yes, "we can confirm it's not a controlled drug". Feels so much safer buying something like this when you know that conversation will have been recorded..]
― Campari G&T, Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link
i was walking on the street behind nyu’s libraryit was cloudy, i was thinking about a girlmy heart felt like a non-organic potatowith root things starting to grow out of it
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link
important highlight from a vice interview of early this year
PART VI: HATE
What are five things you think about when you think of love?Like stream of consciousness?
Yeah.Fish. The shape of a heart. A halo. Hate. For some reason: a fish flopping around.
What about hate? Five things.HTMLGIANT’s comment sections. Hamilton... I get the VICE guy confused with the Gawker guy...
Nolan?Yeah. Hamilton Nolan. The other Gawker guy too. What's his name? There's another shit-talker on Gawker.
They all are.Yeah. So—Gawker.
Max Reed or something?Something like that.
― i better not get any (thomp), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
occupy taipei
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
haha if i wanted reasons to like lin less
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 11 July 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
max reed
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 11 July 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
that's the title of his next book: Max Reed
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 July 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
about an uninspired young sax player burdened with high expectations
― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 12 July 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link
Alt-jazz
― Treeship, Friday, 12 July 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link
I'm sitting on my macbook
I open gmail
I click on the emails
I read the emails
I click on facebook
Oh my god like why do people keep posting feelgood images to facebook?
I go and make some instant noodles
I spill some of the noodle powder on the worktop
The noodles aren't very filling
I go back to my laptop
I click on gmail
I look at my emails again
I've got a notification on facebook
Apparently someone's invited me to an event?
― cardamon, Friday, 12 July 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
^ THIS is how we live now. THIS is great literature.
I think it communicates something really essential, you know? Like about a contemporary lack of empathy? But perhaps you need to have been depressed when you were a teenager. I mean you can't really say anything negative about this because although it's serious literature - not for squares who like the Da Vinci Code and Twilight - it's not 'literary', right, because when I say 'literary' in quotes like that it has a definite meaning and isn't just a vague conversation-stopper.
― cardamon, Friday, 12 July 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
It's not serious literature
― waterface, Friday, 12 July 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
What I'm saying is he's on the cover of Time magazine and being published as literature and talked about as literature but that doesn't mean it's okay to ask if he's actually a good writer, yeah? Have some fucking decorum guys. And what with him being Asian, well clearly you can justify his writing style because it's Buddhist, because no-one of Asian descent who claims to be a Buddhist is also a total bullshitter, nu-uh, not ever.
― cardamon, Friday, 12 July 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link