the most promising young american author is TAO LIN

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"seen"?

Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 05:45 (ten years ago) link

actually, i don't think so. i googled them and they have a V in the middle, which doesn't look familiar.

Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 05:46 (ten years ago) link

this thread isn't about me though, it's about tao lin. and also about dylannn sharing his drug preferences because he still hasn't done that.

Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 05:48 (ten years ago) link

i dont think ive seen actual 'valium' since i was in high school idk, i was wondering if they even make it anymore

xp - i think talking about whether or not people still take valium is fine for this thread

google glasses (Lamp), Thursday, 11 July 2013 05:48 (ten years ago) link

i think people still take it but xanax might have usurped its popularity.

Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 05:52 (ten years ago) link

highlights of drug use

* first drug i ever got high on-- and i mentioned it on ilx recently-- was dextromethorphan-containing robitussin cough syrup. dissociative in the same family as ketamine or pcp or mxe. they all have their own distinct flavour but similar, similar, and i think dxm might be the chillest variation. took a bit of work to master drinking robitussin extra strength. turned off lights in my room and listened to art bell on am radio out of the rockies, all the way from colorado. started seeing things, sensation of floating out of my body.

* found a qp at least of typical late 90s homegrown big bud, red hairs not very crystally, in my dad's closet along with naked polaroids of my parents dated to the mid 80s, an ammunition box of sex toys, and tons of vhs porn. i borrowed some papers off the dresser while i was in there, rolled a joint, watched letterman, smoked, could see my thoughts moving as if on an urban traffic grid with stoplights directing etc.

* bought 5 grams of mushrooms. 10th grade? ate them in the dark. had a sudden feeling of flying out the window into some fire-lit tribal drum circle, completely lost touch with reality, slowly came to and realized no difference in visuals with eyes open or closed, had no idea where i was. slowly came down and grooved on the hairs on my legs flowing like waves. kept eating mushrooms, lower doses. during this time went to first year of university and took ecstasy alone in my room, friends online hooked me up with doses of amt and 2cb and a few other things. had fun. during this time, getting high became an important hobby. smoked quite a bit of weed.

* bought a tab of lsd. watched some movie on my laptop. felt nothing. five hours in hit with wave of buzzing paranoia, a feeling like mentally looking in the mirror impossible to describe, like i was contemplating myself in the third person accompanied by horrible rush of anxiety. this feeling lasted for several weeks and was only tamed with paxil and clonazepam. during this time i also took prescription painkillers pretty frequently and tried morphine and did my first skinny rail of powder. if you dig back to ten years ago, read some of my ilx posts, i was kinda fucked up, definitely on some untreated mental illness shit. had panic attacks. hallucinated. self-destructive. once got robbed after i got set up by this broad that was taking me to buy pills, first time i ever had a gun pulled on me.

* while in china for the first time so... 2005? i went to a club and the table was covered in white powder, thought it was coke. someone scraped me up a fat line and i snorted it. wasn't coke. it was ketamine. best experience i ever had. stopped taking paxil + clonazepam combo and had limited withdrawal effects. took ketamine regularly. dancing on k is pure euphoria like driving a supersmooth giant robot from a floating twenty feet above the earth pov. felt mentally healthier.

* despite fears about my fragile mental health, still had the urge to get high. when i moved back to van, i started smoking weed again, very carefully, and found out it was probably safe. smoked good weed everyday. got put in touch with a delivery service. made a decent amount of coin resaling the weed i got and finding drugs for people i knew. did cocaine once or twice a week with work people, usually in a booth at boston pizza while watching the canucks or in a casino bathroom while my friends were playing baccarat. once got arrested shoplifting a ritter sport marzipan from a sobey's in richmond while i had a couple grams in my pocket i was holding onto for someone. police came. no problem. also had several fratboy friends at ubc who i did shrooms with a few times, very low doses. while catering a shitty luau party at that boat house or whatever in stanley park, after carving up the whole roast pig, some bros in hawaiian shirts offered me "molly," knew what it was, enjoyed it.

* slightly dark period. broke up with my girlfriend. got fucked up on purpose everyday. never went to sleep by natural means. dropped out of school. took lsd again successfully. first short story i ever published i wrote the day after, but no real connection because i was fairly sober for most of the editing and rewriting. went to china again, smoked hash fairly often but it was weak and perfect for my mental state. got happier. tried methamphetamine for the first time, hoping it was real north korean product. came back to canada. smoke weed fairly often. use as creative tool and lifestyle accessory and to chill out.

dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 05:59 (ten years ago) link

xpost i think lorazepam for lesser issues and clorazepam for greater issues have quietly replaced valium (diazepam) but i'm not a pharmacist

dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 06:00 (ten years ago) link

usually in a booth at boston pizza while watching the canucks or in a casino bathroom while my friends were playing baccarat

huh

i have a rx for clorazepam but i usually sell it because i dont need it as much as i need money

google glasses (Lamp), Thursday, 11 July 2013 06:03 (ten years ago) link

i'm going to pick up taipei based on treeship's account, but damn this thing sounds so utterly depressing. i hope the protagonist kills himself in the end as an act of mercy for the human race.

Spectrum, Thursday, 11 July 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link

one weird overlap between tao lin fans and tedious drug talk fans

adam, Thursday, 11 July 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link

does the narrator think about student loans when he's on drugs?

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link

He doesn't have student loan debt i don't think.

Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

from what I remember reading his parents paid for his degree at NYU and bought him an apartment in the city

Spectrum, Thursday, 11 July 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link

if i had lots of money i would probably do tons of drugs. i love drugs. but i never have money for drugs AND records. one of them had to go. plus, i gotta get up in the morning...

scott seward, Thursday, 11 July 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link

dylannn's drugs version of Brewster's Millions has taught you nothing then

sausagehat (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link

i dated a girl who was a trust-fund druggo and briefly brushed up with that world. it's fucking depressing. maybe i'm just getting flashbacks with this.

Spectrum, Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link

When ppl say stuff like that I feel like lex a couple of years ago being baffled at weeknnd fans talking about how depressing parties are

^do not heed if you rate me (wins), Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link

Idk maybe trust fund druggos are doing it really wrong but drvqs are great

^do not heed if you rate me (wins), Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link

the voice of young america has parents to put him/her through nyu and pay for an apartment in the city and drug abuse? that represents so many young americans. high five

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

i love drugs. they're the best. sometimes i wish someone would give me some cocaine. i used to love that stuff. snorted my weight in coke in high school. haven't done it since my stripper girlfriend brought some home in the early 90's. she got it as a tip. i love that smell. i don't know anyone who does it though. or they aren't telling me if they do. hallucinogens i could probably get around here, but i wouldn't do that anywhere near my kids. my kids would have to be safely in another state. or i would have to be. i love pain pills and opiates. would swallow any of that anyone has handy. never wanted to do heroin once i found out that if you do it enough you don't get high anymore you just do it to maintain and not get sick. which seems like a drag. i like getting high. i don't really do anything much anymore though. sad to say. don't even drink really. smoke pot occasionally. i actually just broke down and bought some pot. only smoke at night though. no big deal. netflix. i don't really like doing drugs with other people. just like to watch t.v. i'm a boring drug lover. don't really have much interest in club/internet/designer drugs that make you feel like you are dead and in a hole and all that. i'm too old for that shit. ecstacy is fun though. would do. all drugs are fun if you don't do them too much. i took way too much valium/xanax in high school - my dad had an endless supply - and it really did a number on me. i was already depressed, so, i was just adding insult to injury. should have just stuck to the acid and the coke and the booze. the fun stuff.

oh, but anyway, most drug novels are kinda bad. there are exceptions of course. jesus' son. requiem for a dream. to name two.

scott seward, Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link

Has any author ever represented all young Americans

^do not heed if you rate me (wins), Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

as long as they represent the richest young americans i'm all for it

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

"Has any author ever represented all young Americans"

judy blume? maurice sendak? richard scarry?

scott seward, Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link

I dont think his parents send him money in this book but they seem to have paid for his college. That makes him as privileged as i am, i guess. My dad also lives in a major asian capital too but im not ethnically asian. If i write a novel i'll make sure to not send you a copy.

I sort of hate drugs to an extent i am embarassed about. They've only ever made things worse for me.

Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link

literature and culture serve a class function since we don't have an outright aristocracy here, so it's not a shock we mostly just get novels by and about rich kids farting around for a couple hundred pages. doesn't mean there isn't any value there ... somewhere... but it's a little wearying when there aren't any relatable voices in a medium you love.

Spectrum, Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link

You need to have a good deal of free time to write a novel so that's a factor. Although, maybe not because the writers of the past seemed busy. Clarice Lispector was in law school and working full time as a journalist when she wrote near to the wild heart

Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link

I don't think you need a ton of free time, you just need passion + enthusiasm

waterface, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

so it's not a shock we mostly just get novels by and about rich kids farting around for a couple hundred pages. doesn't mean there isn't any value there ... somewhere... but it's a little wearying when there aren't any relatable voices in a medium you love.

This is some bullshit!

waterface, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link

What part? Privileged ppl are overrepresented in literature, pretty clearly.

Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link

Novels by and about rich kids farting around. Not true and believe me if there's one thing I know, it's farting.

waterface, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link

"Real and Tough"

Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link

- bret easton ellis

"""""""""""""stalin""""""""""" (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link

treeship if you write a novel i would read it. i don't hate privileged people. i question their monopoly on greatness that's all

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link

tao lin is the face of white privilege

dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link

or asian-american privilege

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

tao lin is an anchor baby

dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

tao lin's parents are convicted felons

dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link

tao lin is a miscegenist and child pornographer glorified by the leftwing media

dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link

tao lin is marijuana

waterface, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link

lol dylannn

Treeship, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link

those whose parents pay for their $200,000 NYU tuitions and expensive NYC housing and medicine cabinets, right on

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link

life is so depressing!

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link

yep makes you wonder where they got all that money.

dylannn, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link

tommy wiseau?

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link

http://www.theliftedbrow.com/12-poems-by-tao-lin/

scott seward, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link

Pyrazolam, which as the name suggests is structurally very closely related to alprazolam, is like a mild xanax in that it doesn't have much of a benzo buzz, yet its anxiolytic properties are as strong, or if anything, stronger. If you're actually wanting something functional, rather than a euphoric high, I'd say they're the best benzo ever, both for dealing with ordinary anxiety-producing situations, and for cancelling out the bad effects of come-downs. They're currently legal to buy online in U.K. £45 for 250.

[Being wary of analogue provisions in the Misuse of Drugs Act, 1971, I double-checked by calling my local county police force (using non-emergency "101") to ask if it was ok for me to possess these; they said they'd check with the national police drugs agency then get back to me in 15 minutes, when I was informeed - yes, "we can confirm it's not a controlled drug". Feels so much safer buying something like this when you know that conversation will have been recorded..]

Campari G&T, Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link

i was walking on the street behind nyu’s library
it was cloudy, i was thinking about a girl
my heart felt like a non-organic potato
with root things starting to grow out of it

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

important highlight from a vice interview of early this year

PART VI: HATE

What are five things you think about when you think of love?
Like stream of consciousness?

Yeah.
Fish. The shape of a heart. A halo. Hate. For some reason: a fish flopping around.

What about hate? Five things.
HTMLGIANT’s comment sections. Hamilton... I get the VICE guy confused with the Gawker guy...

Nolan?
Yeah. Hamilton Nolan. The other Gawker guy too. What's his name? There's another shit-talker on Gawker.

They all are.
Yeah. So—Gawker.

Max Reed or something?
Something like that.

i better not get any (thomp), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link

occupy taipei

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link


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