Which film critics do you trust (if any?)

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"Sure, you can surf JSTOR, but what about people who aren't interested in academic writing?"

Gukbe, Monday, 8 July 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link

i want to start a film site w/h4a, alfred, slocki, and morbs. da croup, jjusten, veggiegirl, you're in too. we'll call it 'the smash cut to black, then a loud scream'

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 8 July 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link

Thankfully, I didn't want to write about movies anymore anyway.

the evening dj there (Eric H.), Monday, 8 July 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link

oh, u kid

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 July 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link

now taking bets on if the dissolve will run anything and dumb as this: http://www.avclub.com/articles/never-leave-the-cave-without-it-13-good-performanc,99756/

Gukbe, Monday, 8 July 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

Which film ilxors do you trust (if any)?

I am p curious to see what films these guys write about/prioritise. p4k more legitimately has a mandate to write domestically/insularly about American/w/e film, but a film site covering the same territory would be kinda disgustingly unambitious

szarkasm (schlump), Monday, 8 July 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link

american / w/e music, rather

szarkasm (schlump), Monday, 8 July 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link

the site's name reminds me of this

http://media.komonews.com/images/Chew_Cookbook.jpg

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 8 July 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link

It's live: http://thedissolve.com/

Gukbe, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link

"i loved the av club...but the font was so small and unrefined!"

da croupier, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

i wonder if they can track the amount of ppl who open this site and then close the page within 10 seconds

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link

http://alteredzones.com

markers, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link

Rip

Gukbe, Thursday, 11 July 2013 00:28 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

oh my god richard you think joe swanberg is better than jafar panahi

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/movies/2013/07/who-are-the-twelve-greatest-living-narrative-filmmakers.html smdh

szarkasm (schlump), Thursday, 25 July 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link

classic brody

Gukbe, Thursday, 25 July 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...
one month passes...

Tributes to the late Stanley Kauffmann by Wolcott, Thomson, Denby:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115090/tribute-stanley-kauffmann

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link

Never really connected to kauffmann's writing, especially, but I admired the fact that he continued to work into his 90s. Thanks for the link.

Treeship, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link

Apparently his last review was Our Nixon in August. Here he is on Chereau's Son Frere:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/new-places-within

on Antonioni's breakthrough:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115093/stanley-kauffmann-lavventura

and the notorious Godfather pan (OTM on Brando):

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/film/101783/tnr-film-classics-the-godfather-april-1-1972

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

OUR CRITICAL PRECEPTS

(1) It's primarily about language, using the precise word for Oshima's eroticism, having a push-pull relationship with both film experience and writing experience.

(2) Anonymity and coolness, which includes writing film-centered rather than self-centered criticism, distancing ourselves from the material and the people involved. With few exceptions, we don't like meeting the movie director or going to press screenings.

(3) Burrowing into the movie, which includes extending the piece, collaging a whole article with pace changes, multiple tones, getting different voices into it.

(4) Not being precious about writing. Paying strict heed to syntax and yeat playing around with words and grammar to get layers and continuation.

(5) Willingness to put in a great deal of time and discomfort: long drives to see films again and again, nonstop writing sessions.

(6) Getting the edge. For instance, using the people around you, a brain like Jean-Pierre Gorin's.

(7) Giving the audience some uplift.

Manny Farber & Patricia Patterson, Film Comment May/June 1977.

moullet, Sunday, 27 October 2013 03:47 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

^ too much work

J Hoberman taking over Dave Kehr's DVD column in the Sunday NY Times.

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

Cool.

Pazz & Jop 1280 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

David Bordwell on the Founding Fathers of modern film criticism:

http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/2014/01/26/the-rhapsodes-agee-farber-tyler-and-us/

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

linked in celebration of quitting this nonjob

http://blogs.indiewire.com/criticwire/film-criticism-state-of-the-art

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 16:55 (ten years ago) link

Kent Jones is a good listen: http://www.thecinephiliacs.net/2014/02/episode-33-kent-jones-spawn-of-north.html

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link

KJ (who I sat behind at a Hitchcock silent the other night) on how Bazin and Farber would not be at home in the field today, and also other things about Sarris and Robin Wood:

I think that Farber’s passionate involvement in the actual practice of criticism precluded any genuine investment in partisanship or polemics, and that’s doubly true of Bazin. Paradoxically, this means that the cinema’s two greatest critics are outliers in what we now call film culture, a by-product of the Politique des Auteurs, streamlined for American use into the Auteur Theory, and finally trodden down and flattened over the decades into plain old auteurism. Their names are constantly mentioned and their most famous pieces are frequently cited and invoked, but rarely in terms of their relevance to contemporary affairs, least of all the lucid objections they raised to the auteurist idea at its inception.

http://www.filmcomment.com/article/auteur-theory-auteurism

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 March 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link

btw is there a compilation of the '50s Cahiers gang's writings in English, or of JLG's in particular?

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link

thanks NN

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link

quitting this nonjob

how come?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:37 (ten years ago) link

there's a line in The Great Beauty (which I sort of hated otherwise) to the effect of "I'm too old to do things I don't want to do."

also

"No man but a blockhead ever wrote, except for money."
- Samuel Johnson

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:43 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, well Samuel Johnson was a well known junket whore.

Eric H., Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:51 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Read on Alfred's blog that EW's Owen Gleiberman just got canned after having been with the magazine since its inception. I haven't read that mag in years, but my family had a subscription years ago and I always enjoyed his criticism. His minority-opinion reviews of The Last Boy Scout and Groundhog Day were particularly memorable. Would love if Rolling Stone could somehow lose the never non-hacky Peter Travers and pick up Gleiberman.

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Friday, 4 April 2014 00:32 (ten years ago) link

c'mon man Peter Travers electrifying as the bruised heart of the rolling stone empire.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 4 April 2014 00:34 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Bordwell's last entry on those '40s critics:

http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/2014/04/20/the-rhapsodes-afterlives/

Seitz's advice to young critics:

http://www.rogerebert.com/mzs/advice-to-young-critics

(I was conscientious, as an old neophyte, on about 8/10, but never had any illusion I'd make a living at it, so I just ran out of time and motivation)

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link

odious

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 May 2014 00:45 (nine years ago) link

that doesn't seem to allow for the possibility that maybe "200 of the highest-grossing movies of the decade" were mostly shit

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 May 2014 07:49 (nine years ago) link

thou daren't deviate from the norm

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 May 2014 09:55 (nine years ago) link

consensus = truth

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 May 2014 10:27 (nine years ago) link

Kael, Kauffmann, and Simon would have been off the chart for the duration of their careers; Sarris the same for his heyday, though he really softened the last decade or so. Farber would have been in another county (though he was only a regular reviewer for a short while).

clemenza, Thursday, 1 May 2014 11:29 (nine years ago) link

i'm FPing any score-related posts in future

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 May 2014 11:37 (nine years ago) link

Reunion in Vienna (1933, Franklin) 7/10
*Inside Llewyn Davis (2013, Coen, Coen) 8/10
Adam & Yves (1974, de Rome) 5/10
*Manhattan Melodrama (1934, Van Dyke) 6/10
Slap the Monster on Page One (1972, Bellocchio) 7/10
Love Is Strange (2014, Sachs) 6/10
Devil in the Flesh (1986, Bellocchio) 5/10
The Eyes, the Mouth (1982, Bellocchio) 6/10
Manakamana (2013, Spray, Velez) 7/10
*An Oversimplification of Her Beauty (2012, Nance) 8/10
The Seven-Per-Cent Solution (1976, Ross) 7/10
The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes (1970, Wilder) 6/10

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, April 30, 2014

Etc., etc., etc.

I don't think ratings are a problem in and of themselves, least of all on a message board where there's no review attached.

clemenza, Thursday, 1 May 2014 11:44 (nine years ago) link

well, we're not critics. Glossing over substantive stuff on critical chops in favor of another mass-market barometer is for shit.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 May 2014 12:11 (nine years ago) link

no one's making a scoresheet of our ratings, yr comparison is specious

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 May 2014 12:21 (nine years ago) link

jaymc might be

wins, Thursday, 1 May 2014 12:26 (nine years ago) link

and the NSA.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 May 2014 12:36 (nine years ago) link

I don't know, I just don't see ratings as a problem when accompanied by good writing. Christgau rated records for 40+ years. If you mean that ratings are usually accompanied by poor writing, that's probably true. But they don't cause the poor writing.

clemenza, Thursday, 1 May 2014 12:50 (nine years ago) link


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