but it'll take months to prove the fraud!
― Nhex, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link
idk it seemed plausible enough to me
im irish btw
― dj hollingsworth vs dj perry (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link
i will admit that i am even now saying the "spirit/body" captions out loud in a bane voice and it's fun
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 02:21 (ten years ago) link
Yeah this was crappy huh, three straight Batman movies ruined by 9/11.
― El tres de 乒乓 de 1808 (silby), Saturday, 6 July 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link
i'll still defend the first two, easily
― Nhex, Saturday, 6 July 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LKnv_hF8hs
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 6 July 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link
Found a sale DVD, watched it for the second time--it seemed like something that might improve at home (which sounds strange, but it was pure overload in the theatre).
I was able to decipher Bane this time; the sound was much clearer (maybe it was a problem with the theatre after all), and I also used the subtitles when necessary. As to whether that was a good thing, maybe not. Almost every single line of his is the corniest kind of villain-makes-clever-retort, made even more so by Tom Hardy's inflections. ("You're pure evil"; "I am necessary evil." Really had me rolling my eyes before long.) In terms of the story, I think they take a certain amount of familiarity for granted. I could follow, I don't know, 78% of what was going on, who characters were and why they were doing what they were doing. I did again like Anne Hathaway.
I know it's silly to carp about a superhero film two years later. But some of this is of interest, enough that I wish it were better.
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 February 2014 14:40 (ten years ago) link
Yeah this aged very poorly very quickly via hbo for me
― da croupier, Sunday, 2 February 2014 16:43 (ten years ago) link
Last time I watched it I couldn't get over the feeling that it felt like a rushed screenplay--like two or three drafts away. so much clunky exposition!
― ryan, Sunday, 2 February 2014 17:20 (ten years ago) link
Almost every single line of his is the corniest kind of villain-makes-clever-retort
Every time someone brings up this movie, I point out these parts, because I love them more than anything else in the movie. Except Catwoman blowing things up on the Bat-Cycle.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 2 February 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link
You think darkness is your ally? But you merely adopted it, I was BORN in it.
― Nhex, Sunday, 2 February 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link
this is garbage
― socki (s1ocki), Sunday, 2 February 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link
*bane voice*Your absence of faith is shocking, s1ocki!
― mh, Sunday, 2 February 2014 18:19 (ten years ago) link
I'm being unfair to the degree that most great villains in film history are built upon a litany of clever retorts--the Joker in the previous film, Hannibal Lecter, J.J. Hunsecker, whomever. Maybe it's more Hardy himself that bothered me; there's something really artificially theatrical about his line delivery.
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 February 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link
this is one of the best threads dedicated to a bad movie
― Hungry4Ass, Sunday, 2 February 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link
I forgot i watched this
― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 2 February 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link
what's amazing is how despite the relatively bleak story the dark knight is such a fun movie whereas TDKR just feels so joyless. like Nolan was basically "look I don't like how this story ends and neither will you but this tale must be told for posterity".
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 2 February 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link
yeah totes magotes
― Hungry4Ass, Sunday, 2 February 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link
the tdk was something i kinda despised in principle but in reality was pretty damn entertained by. tdkr's dreariness almost works as a tuomas 'actually batman and robin is the best batman story ever told' argument cuz the stuff i find most (ie actually) entertaining about it are the most pronounced schumaker elements. it's even made watching some other movies more enjoyable, highly recommend watching warrior and substituting bane ad-libs for tom hardy's dialogue.
― balls, Sunday, 2 February 2014 18:42 (ten years ago) link
its weird that this was nolan going 'i'm gonna make a michael bay movie and make this a crazy fun time' but hes too much of a tightass to really cut loose and do that. still feel like the biggest missed opportunity was the fakeout with neeson, would've been so ballsy and inappropriate and cool to make him actually undead mastermind behind whole thing
― Hungry4Ass, Sunday, 2 February 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link
missed opp revealing cotillard so late too. she could have been an incred secondary villain instead of the whole "jon voight mission impossible" shit they did. neeson would have been a welcome return.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 2 February 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link
I liked him in almost everything I saw him in, led by (in order) Magnolia, Capote, Boogie Nights, Happiness, Almost Famous, Moneyball, Love Liza, The Big Lebowski...a few others, too--I must have seen more than one film just because he was in it. (One of the few times he lost me was, Academy Award notwithstanding, the role he'll probably be most remembered for, Lancaster Dodd.) I wrote about him (sort of) soon after first noticing him. A couple of things to look forward to (maybe they've been mentioned already):
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2920808/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_5http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1972571/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_4
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 February 2014 19:51 (ten years ago) link
wrong thred
― socki (s1ocki), Sunday, 2 February 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link
I relocated it. The tech wing of Bane's mercenary army was messing with my account.
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 February 2014 20:36 (ten years ago) link
The Dark Knight being a "bad movie" is one of the worst challops i've ever seen on this boardRises' only redeeming quality is probably that hilarious Bane voice though
― Nhex, Sunday, 2 February 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link
Still love this.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 February 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link
Another problem with these movies is the nullity (of) Bruce Wayne/Batman, thanks to Bale's performance. He's hard to take seriously.― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 _______________________________________________I like that nullity. Thought Michael Keaton had some of it about him, too. Bruce Wayne almost doesn't have a character, a personality, he's a cypher, an empty vessel.― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, July 25, 2012
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, July 25, 2012
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I like that nullity. Thought Michael Keaton had some of it about him, too. Bruce Wayne almost doesn't have a character, a personality, he's a cypher, an empty vessel.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, July 25, 2012
keaton's bruce wayne wasn't such a nullity, or at least he wasn't the same nullity as bale. keaton's wayne was very smart, but socially awkward, stammering, unsure of himself, and seemed to be really struggling with the insanity of him being "the batman." bale strips away all of that complexity, and gives us a hyper-confident, hyper-masculine bruce wayne. that's not "bad," it's just more of a nullity, and -- to me -- a less interesting character.
i've never seen TDKR all the way through. finally, yesterday, i caught the last hour and a half, or so. and i saw the first batman/bane fight at some point. bane was a cooler villain than i figured he would be.
it would be more interesting if hollywood declared an indefinite moritorium on superhero movies.― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, January 20, 2011
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, January 20, 2011
still seriously believe this, and if the 2016 GOP nominee campaigns on this platform, i might have to vote republican.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 6 April 2014 15:33 (ten years ago) link
It's all so old hat now. I say turn Batman evil and psychotic.― Daniel, Esq., Monday, September 21, 2009
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, September 21, 2009
also, hey!, that's apparently where they're taking the next version of batman, starring the actor born to play him.
?
― recommend me a new bagman (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 April 2014 19:58 (ten years ago) link
i thought the new batman was supposed to be old and bitter and the villain in the new movie.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 6 April 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link
But the actor?
― recommend me a new bagman (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 April 2014 20:06 (ten years ago) link
joeks
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 6 April 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link
http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/o/opinion-why-a-ben-affleck-batman-is-a-good-idea-143379-a-1377259402-470-75.jpg
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 6 April 2014 20:08 (ten years ago) link
how old is batman, anyway? twenties would be too young to be all "WHERE IS HE?" forties would be too old; he'd want to sit on a sofa and watch modern family. i guess it's thirties, but that makes for an awfully tight timeframe if he took eight years off after being falsely accused of killing some police officers, before his slap-fights with bane.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 27 April 2014 03:48 (ten years ago) link
he's 75 this year iirc
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 27 April 2014 05:26 (ten years ago) link
that is too old to fight crime. he should move to a 55-and-older retirement community, like the one i'm moving to next year.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 27 April 2014 05:40 (ten years ago) link
people are retiring, what would you have me do
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 27 April 2014 06:26 (ten years ago) link
it's cool. there's maybe a special retirement community for aging superheros, like batman and robin and mermaid-man and barnacle-boy. they don't get along, sadly.
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/43536776.jpg
super-egos.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 27 April 2014 06:56 (ten years ago) link
Hardy's Bane is great in p much the same way Young Thug is
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 27 April 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link
you know what would've been cool, at the end when the mansion is turned into an orphanage, the new headmaster rolls out and its patrick stewart in a wheelchair. think about THAT
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
or BANE, who having survived the shooting, realizes there are better uses for his inexplicably saucy inexplicably british wit
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
i've said "no BROTHER, they expect two of US in the WRECKage" a bunch of times since i saw it
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
you have to say it into a cup for the full effect
― da croupier, Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
his voice is mad fun to imitate
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
Would like to see Carcetti as the CIA bad guy in a Bourne movie now.
― Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
xpost his voice is sean connery under a bucket and i claim my 5
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
Love the turn into sheer comedy this thread took at a certain point, after after watching DKR again today I've been reading the thread and laughing like a loon.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 1 November 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I mean essentially it just dialed back the quality from TDK to the level of, like, a pretty damned good superhero movie. I'd rank Spider-Man 2 above it, and tie it with maybe Iron Man.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 7:02 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
baffled at myself for ever expressing this opinion. it's a dull, gray slog that makes no sense thematically as a "makes u think" movie, and bungles several plot moves that would be really crucial to having it pay off as an exciting thrill-ride blockbuster. caught a bit of it on TV the other night and it's just unbearable without the momentum of the first viewing carrying you through. but somehow it's the tedious and irrelevant matthew modine subplot that really drives this home for me - if you can't figure out that that needs to be left on the cutting room floor, how can i have any confidence that any of the thematic garbling is intentional? and this is while they leave out two huge things that could have (a) been great, entertaining setpieces and (b) pay off some kind of character arc for batman - - - showing how the fuck he gets back into occupied, locked-down gotham, and showing him defeat bane in some kind of interesting way that involves tactics even one iota different from what he tried the first time. it seems to come down to, well, catwoman is now on his side rather than on the fence. zzz.
so many blown opportunities, especially after the way that the previous film (though certainly bloated bloated) found ways to give you batman setpieces in the middle of its psychological mind-game crime thriller. even the essentially gratuitous hong kong trip was fun to watch and showed batman doing bat-stuff while playing out the 'above-the-law' theme. frankly this in no way needed to be a 'trilogy,' but there was certainly room left to tell a really cool story here. oh well. i still like bane and catwoman even if the former is really ill-defined (and gets less interesting the more we learn about him). the voice is fun to do, though, everyone's OTM about that.
― 'they pelted us with rocks and garbage' (Doctor Casino), Monday, 11 July 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
'the dark knight' was such a sprawling yet fairly coherent and swift movie with these scenes or twists that made reasonable sense, but yeah TDKR is like a TED talk with explosions.
also i said it previously but considering how lived in and gritty the first two films felt it's amazing how this movie just felt like it was on a set with zero going on outside the margins of the screen.
― nomar, Monday, 11 July 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
Which is a huge problem when the main story is about a villain taking over a whole city! That's kind of a big deal, I mean they base whole movies on this kind of thing (like, idk, The Siege) but it comes halfway through this one and never feels even remotely real. I'm okay with there not being crowds of bystanders reacting to the big chase seen in the second film, but JGL walking the empty streets of Gotham not only doesn't make sense, it lowers the stakes tremendously - apparently the only people at risk from the bomb are the cops (who probably would have been protected from the bomb by being buried deep underground), one schoolbus of kids, and a bunch of people huddled around Lucius in that one building (which may be the same group of people, I can't remember).
― 'they pelted us with rocks and garbage' (Doctor Casino), Monday, 11 July 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link
ironic that, iirc, the first two were shot in Chicago and the third in actual Gotham.
― evol j, Monday, 11 July 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link
wasn't DKR shot in Pittsburgh?
― Number None, Monday, 11 July 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link
I had convinced myself the first one was Toronto made over and CGI'ed to look like Movie City, the second was barely-disguised Chicago, and the third was not-even-trying-at-all Manhattan.
― 'they pelted us with rocks and garbage' (Doctor Casino), Monday, 11 July 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link
a terrible, terrible movie, and i'm glad we all finally agree
― oculus lump (contenderizer), Monday, 11 July 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link
I have watched this movie twice, and still feel like I don't quite understand the plot.
― Dan I., Monday, 22 January 2018 03:32 (six years ago) link
Things are bad and one must rasp.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 January 2018 04:33 (six years ago) link
And the iDENtiTY of the TRIGger Man is... a MYSTERY!
― Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Monday, 22 January 2018 04:43 (six years ago) link