omnibus PRISM/NSA/free Edward Snowden/encryption tutorial thread

really though, next time around call ahead first ed, no one likes the drop-in

dad wrote open letter, can't find full post

The father of NSA leaker Edward Snowden, frustrated by his inability to reach out directly to his son, has written an open letter to him extolling him for "summoning the American people to confront the growing danger of tyranny."

The letter was written jointly Tuesday by Lonnie Snowden and his lawyer, Bruce Fein.

It comes a day after Edward Snowden issued a statement through WikiLeaks ripping the Obama administration for leaving him "stateless" and revoking his passport.

Snowden is in Russia and has been seeking asylum in multiple countries.

Snowden's father has expressed concern that WikiLeaks supporters who have been helping his son seek asylum may not have his best interests at heart. The father has said he'd like his son to return to the U.S. under the right circumstances.

prob some hagiography happening there

"prob"

I don't think yer allowed to call anything hagiography unless it rises to the level of giving the Nobel Peace Prize to a guy about to embark on an 8-year killing spree, but meh, semantics.

I swear, someone could be talking about croissants and you'd pop up drily wondering how many people Bam the War Criminal had executed by drone strike to get those croissants extra buttery

i go with my strengths, dude

"strengths"

http://images.politico.com/global/2012/12/04/121204_barack_obama_ap_605.jpg

"HURRY UP WITH MY DAMN CROISSANTS!"

you see, when Kanye says it it's funny, when Obama says it it's chilling because he has his finger on the drone trigger if those croissants don't show up pronto.

morbs the kanye they're speaking of is kanye west, he's a rapper (it's when you talk in rhymes over a 'beat'), he's got an album about croissants out right now, lou reed loves it, says it reminds him of farts.

lol alfred

hey balls, i was goin to rap shows long b4 yr pubes came in, just sayin

http://images.politico.com/global/2012/12/04/121204_barack_obama_ap_605.jpg

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Moving on (gif hell on bookmarks).

Plane carrying Bolivian president, Eva Morales, rerouted to Austria on suspicion US whistleblower Edward Snowden is on board. More soon …

idiot! so many embassies and he had to take a plane

fuck you if you dont have #teamsnowden stickers on yr laptop right now

idk if snowden was naive about the ruthless american war machine hunting him down, but i think maybe he was naive about the stability of the current world order - i think he's surprised to find out that the united states has the pull that it does

that 'eva' morales was of course from the fine subs at the guardian

i think he's surprised to find out that the united states has the pull that it does

Massive irony in dude leaking proof of US omniscience taken by surprise by scope and reach of US power.

"Yeah, I knew they were recording and spying on countless phone calls and stuff, but who would have guessed they'd have so much away with their treaty-bound diplomatic allies?"

Schumer is still under the illusion that the US has as much power in the world as it had in the Sixties. He's living in the past, mahnnn.

― Le Bateau Ivre

josh i look forward to your guide on evading us hegemony after leaking top secret documents

whenever you make the time

when the dn changes to Josh in Bolivia, you will know he made the time

Snowden reminds me a lot of guys you would see at hacker conventions in the early 90s - the corporate cyberpunks who talked a big game about how one day they were going take on the system and defeat Big Brother like it was a James Bond story. I think Snowden thought that the reveal itself would give him don't-kill-the-messenger immunity but he badly underestimated just how ruthless this type of Power operates - you would think the house in Hawaii, the high-paying job, and the dancing exhibitionist girlfriend would be a tip off. It works in organized crime.

i mean i cant read the guys mind who knows but i think yeah there's a decent chance he thought this would be like the end of a movie where he spills the beans and the corrupt gov't can no longer touch him because all its avatars are being prosecuted or hounded from office or whatever. and therefore underestimated not just US ruthlessness but the extent to which people care, or want to know, the revelations. (or OTOH the extent to which people *already knew* what his documents revealed

)

Awful lot of mind reading here!

yeah I'm thinking he anticipated some of this could happen

"We cannot offer you asylum because we just found out that the Americans have bugged our entire government. Your case means nothing to us."

neway i found this about as infuriating as any of the stuff that snowden revealed, the pathetic way euro countries treated evo morales and his plane http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/04/world/snowden.html?hp

certainly Obama's remark – not sending fighter jets after a hacker – makes sense. He had other means of persuasion.

josh i look forward to your guide on evading us hegemony after leaking top secret documents

Like I said, the first step, retroactively, was to evade US hegemony before leaking docs.

I suppose the catch is finding asylum without it looking like some quid pro quo secrets-for-safe-haven trade. There's asylum, and then there's ... defection? But wtf does this guy care? He's not coming back here on his own. I don't know if that makes him brave or a coward that he's not willing to go full-martyr, but he's burned his bridges already.

Anyway, watch this: fly to Mexico on a vacation, fly to Cuba. Stay there. US hegemony: evaded! But at this point, post-leak, hornet nest -shaking, he's pretty screwed if he wants to live out the rest of his life in anything close to comfort. But he claims to have thought of that, per his initial comments, so who cares.

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5917093

huh that's interesting

I'm not a big fan of Big Brother government, but if there's anything a gov seems to be justified in going to the ends of the earth to achieve, it's catching a former employee who not only has leaked ample state secrets, threatened to leak more, fled the country in search of sanctuary and thumbed his nose at the US the whole time. Is it it any wonder no one wants this particular hot potato?

justified in their eyes, yeah.

That's just silly. You can disagree with it, but there's really no way to defend it as unjustified. It'd be like if a guy robs a bank and flees the country and boasts about it and you being all, that's cool, well played. It's not like the US is sending out the drones to blow up Snowden family weddings.

Yet.

but dude robbed a bank to treat his sick aunt...who is president of that very bank!

the USG is a morally unjustifiable entity, but i'm not saying more with them watching, y'know

saying more would be a bit like pissing into the ocean at this point, no?

prism consists of google, facebook, apple, twitter and ilx

Obama has access to ALL your posts even the ones in 77

Aybe-May ecan-may alk-tay in ode-cay?

but dude robbed a bank to treat his sick aunt...who is president of that very bank!

― Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, July 3, 2013 11:48 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is that a movie?

it's a mountain dew commercial. his aunt is 'sick' in the sense that she does indy nosebones

lol

It'd be like if a guy robs a bank and flees the country and boasts about it and you being all, that's cool, well played

i mean i get what you're saying, even if i disagree, but this is sort of a poor analogy

I'll concede that.

Obama has access to ALL your posts even the ones in 77

― iatee, Wednesday, July 3, 2013 3:52 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

aw hell