Come anticipate "The Dark Knight Rises" with *BATSPOILERS*

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I seriously do impressions of the Bane voice to myself, like, once a week.

It works incredibly well with nursery rhymes.

twinkle twinkle little... star?

bane voice has some great questioning uptalk

yeah, GRRRWHYDOYOUWANNAKILLME/WHERESHARVEYDENT scene from TDK still brings the lols

i like that batman and bane not only sound like children pretending to be monsters, but that their fight scenes come off like two dolls being bashed against each other

LOL yes!

The plot of these movies is utterly ridiculous though, even given the comic book world they live in. The OWS stuff they shoehorned in was weak and pretty dumb. The shackles of rule by the rich and powerful are thrown off for the populist....um ... guy that blew up a football stadium. And then this same guy who has killed many innocent people reads from a confession about the truth about Harvey Dent and all of Gotham believes him and turns on the police? At a certain point it becomes more than plot holes, it's a general lack of focus, unclear motivations all around, etc.

Felt like there were too many things they wanted to include in this movie and all of them got written in but the impact was severely diminished for pretty much all of them.

script predated OWS, sheesh

If they wanted to go with the "Gotham ruled by a villain" thing they should have just done that. Chop out the bomb thing, chop out the faraway pit-prison (which creates more plot problems than it's worth - how about Bane has a sinister super-base in the sewers, or he somehow imprisons Batman in the Bat Cave or something), chop out Talia and make Bane work as a villain in his own right (or use someone other than Bane)... basically the 2-second premise of this is interesting but it gets junked up really fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgT1gtdC-PE

I like the scene at 2:10 because it sounds like Bane is bumbling incoherently and the dude is just going "What?"

general rule of thumb is that when Mike W Barr's Batman and the Outsiders stories make more sense and look better than your 300 million dollar movie something's gone wrong.
no dis to jim aparo of course

their fight scenes come off like two dolls being bashed against each other

seeing bits and pieces on hbo recently has brought up more bits of stupidity. How when Matthew Modine leads the charge on bane's people, the cops have little guns, and bane's soldiers have automatic weapons. But when Batman shows up, everybody's having fisticuffs?

That drove me nuts. Hooray, Batman is leading everybody to their deaths in a suicide charge! And they win!

similarly, why would the bad guys run toward a small army when they have automatic weapons and some distance? Hold your ground, keep firing, end movie.

my #1 favorite thing about this movie is still that they apparently unintentionally jacked this for the climax

http://filmdump.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/batman-1966-3.jpg

HAS to be intentional.

a nolan quote re inception that seems pertinent to the matter

"There are all kinds of references in there. This wasn't really a conscious thing on my part; I didn't set out to make a movie about movies. But what I wanted was for the dream imagery to be resonant not just to me, but on some kind of shared level. And I think naturally, as a filmmaker, I just gravitate toward cinema as the collective memory we have of imagery and symbolism."

from the same interview that features my favorite nolan quote ever:

"One of my favorite brain teasers, or things to occupy my mind with when I have spare time, is that if you look in a mirror, left and right are reversed, but up and down are not. How is that possible? I've been trying to wrap my head around that for decades and I make no progress. If any of your readers have the solution, I'll be interested."

DECADES.

fucking mirrors how do they work

Effect of gravity on light photons btw

real versus virtual images iirc

btw if the mirror was on the ceiling you'd be upside down!

The Dark Knight Refracted

you'd think a DP, or someone getting his lunch, would have explained it to him by now.

and give up that plum job?

what bale did when a dp explained how light worked on set
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0auwpvAU2YA

http://i.imgur.com/0sfzv3Y.jpg

The plot of these movies is utterly ridiculous though, even given the comic book world they live in. The OWS stuff they shoehorned in was weak and pretty dumb. The shackles of rule by the rich and powerful are thrown off for the populist....um ... guy that blew up a football stadium. And then this same guy who has killed many innocent people reads from a confession about the truth about Harvey Dent and all of Gotham believes him and turns on the police? At a certain point it becomes more than plot holes, it's a general lack of focus, unclear motivations all around, etc.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, July 2, 2013 4:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you missed my fave: all stock transactions made during a terrorist seizure of the stock exchange (and computer hacking in plain view of every trader) are considered completely valid even after the terrorist madman has been defeated.

lol

but it'll take months to prove the fraud!

idk it seemed plausible enough to me

im irish btw

i will admit that i am even now saying the "spirit/body" captions out loud in a bane voice and it's fun

Yeah this was crappy huh, three straight Batman movies ruined by 9/11.

i'll still defend the first two, easily

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LKnv_hF8hs

Found a sale DVD, watched it for the second time--it seemed like something that might improve at home (which sounds strange, but it was pure overload in the theatre).

I was able to decipher Bane this time; the sound was much clearer (maybe it was a problem with the theatre after all), and I also used the subtitles when necessary. As to whether that was a good thing, maybe not. Almost every single line of his is the corniest kind of villain-makes-clever-retort, made even more so by Tom Hardy's inflections. ("You're pure evil"; "I am necessary evil." Really had me rolling my eyes before long.) In terms of the story, I think they take a certain amount of familiarity for granted. I could follow, I don't know, 78% of what was going on, who characters were and why they were doing what they were doing. I did again like Anne Hathaway.

I know it's silly to carp about a superhero film two years later. But some of this is of interest, enough that I wish it were better.

Yeah this aged very poorly very quickly via hbo for me

Last time I watched it I couldn't get over the feeling that it felt like a rushed screenplay--like two or three drafts away. so much clunky exposition!

Almost every single line of his is the corniest kind of villain-makes-clever-retort

Every time someone brings up this movie, I point out these parts, because I love them more than anything else in the movie. Except Catwoman blowing things up on the Bat-Cycle.

You think darkness is your ally? But you merely adopted it, I was BORN in it.

this is garbage

*bane voice*
Your absence of faith is shocking, s1ocki!

I'm being unfair to the degree that most great villains in film history are built upon a litany of clever retorts--the Joker in the previous film, Hannibal Lecter, J.J. Hunsecker, whomever. Maybe it's more Hardy himself that bothered me; there's something really artificially theatrical about his line delivery.

this is one of the best threads dedicated to a bad movie

I forgot i watched this

what's amazing is how despite the relatively bleak story the dark knight is such a fun movie whereas TDKR just feels so joyless. like Nolan was basically "look I don't like how this story ends and neither will you but this tale must be told for posterity".

yeah totes magotes

the tdk was something i kinda despised in principle but in reality was pretty damn entertained by. tdkr's dreariness almost works as a tuomas 'actually batman and robin is the best batman story ever told' argument cuz the stuff i find most (ie actually) entertaining about it are the most pronounced schumaker elements. it's even made watching some other movies more enjoyable, highly recommend watching warrior and substituting bane ad-libs for tom hardy's dialogue.

its weird that this was nolan going 'i'm gonna make a michael bay movie and make this a crazy fun time' but hes too much of a tightass to really cut loose and do that. still feel like the biggest missed opportunity was the fakeout with neeson, would've been so ballsy and inappropriate and cool to make him actually undead mastermind behind whole thing