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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-chief-says-surveillance-programs-helped-thwart-dozens-of-plots/2013/06/27/e97ab0a2-df70-11e2-963a-72d740e88c12_story.html?hpid=z1

NSA head vs 2 Senate Dems

Two Democratic senators, Ron Wyden of Oregon and Mark Udall of Colorado, have questioned whether the collection of tens of millions of domestic calling records has helped thwart plots.

“It appears that the bulk phone records collection program under section 215 of the USA Patriot Act played little or no role in most of these disruptions,” the senators said in a statement. They did note that targeting foreign communications under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act was useful but that conflating these programs as one effort was misleading.

curmudgeon, Friday, 28 June 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link

President Obama on Thursday defended the handling of the international chase for the former government contractor, calling it a legal matter and saying he was “not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker.” Asked whether he had personally called Chinese President Xi Jinping or Russian President Vladi­mir Putin about Snowden, Obama said he had not.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-snowden-playbook-obama-administration-prioritized-legal-channels-over-diplomacy/2013/06/27/17523a0a-de7b-11e2-b797-cbd4cb13f9c6_story.html?hpid=z1

curmudgeon, Friday, 28 June 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

how old would a hacker have to be to make scrambling jets worthwhile?

nagl dude dude dude (ledge), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

17, like Broderick in WarGames

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7b6lfHFPz1qzx3igo1_500.jpg

Would scramble jets for.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 June 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

there it is

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 28 June 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link

Nina Khruscheva rants, goes in on Cheney

commenters are largely unimpressed

DJP, Friday, 28 June 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

In 1982, for example, when I was in high school in Moscow, I was on the phone with one of my closest friends, talking about how relieved we were that Leonid Brezhnev had finally died, after 18 years of stifling power. Suddenly, there was a metallic click on the line and we heard a dour man’s voice. A KGB functionary, no doubt. “Hang up the phone,” he demanded, “immediately.” We did.

I dare anyone to tell me that this has happened to you in the United States.

yeah we have a fuckin budget here

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Friday, 28 June 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link

hah

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 28 June 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link

is julian assange gonna turn ecuador into reddit island

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Friday, 28 June 2013 18:58 (ten years ago) link

a dreamland where the bitcoins flow like water and nobody has to worry about broads calling it rape when they wanted it

iatee, Friday, 28 June 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link

Can you take me higher ruh. To a place with bitcoin streams ruh.

Sufjan Grafton, Saturday, 29 June 2013 08:07 (ten years ago) link

Memories of Stasi color Germans’ view of U.S. surveillance programs

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/06/26/195045/memories-of-stasi-color-germans.html

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 June 2013 08:31 (ten years ago) link

free Edward Snowden tutorials

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 30 June 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

Be hilarious if dude ended up like the guy trapped in the Paris airport. It'd be like the end of "The Shield." Yeah, he got away with it ... but at what cost!?!?

Remind me what Snowden flew to China first, rather than someplace he actually needed to be? Why didn't he fly straight to Ecuador, or Mexico to Cuba or whatever?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 July 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link

reading the times account of his time in HK it sounds like he was kind of misled or overly optimistic about his chances of avoiding extradition

max, Monday, 1 July 2013 12:25 (ten years ago) link

RT @Reuters: Putin says if Snowden wants to stay in Russia, he must "stop his work aimed at harming our American partners"

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 1 July 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

oh putin-paws

Mordy , Monday, 1 July 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link

giving him up seems like a good move for putin. earns some political capital in the us/russia relationship at basically no real cost?

iatee, Monday, 1 July 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link

like it's pretty hard to imagine that mr. kgb has an ounce of sympathy for for snowden

iatee, Monday, 1 July 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link

But he doesn't seem to care too much about political capital with the US either

curmudgeon, Monday, 1 July 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link

putin is just having fun out there, playing like a young kid

goole, Monday, 1 July 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

goole otm

max, Monday, 1 July 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link

he should send snowden back wearing the super bowl ring

iatee, Monday, 1 July 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link

he should make Snowden arm wrestle for it first

big black nemesis, Puya chilensis (DJP), Monday, 1 July 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link

he should send snowden back wearing the super bowl ring

― iatee, Monday, July 1, 2013 3:35 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god i hope this happens

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 1 July 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link

In just four days, J. Shot—in association with Fallout Media and Immortal Peach (which is a great name for anything)—put together a five-minute film depicting Edward Snowden's first days in Hong Kong, culminating in his unveiling in his interview with The Guardian. The film, called Verax, is in its entirety below

http://www.nationaljournal.com/nationalsecurity/the-edward-snowden-movie-already-exists-20130701

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 1 July 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link

needs more guys staring up into a camera howling "snoooowwwdDDEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!"
also batman

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 July 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link

idealist hacker steals secrets about the panopticon, flees to hong kong, runs into arms of "anti-secrets" organization known to ally itself with leakers, issues statement through organization

can we please stop living in a fucking william gibson novel

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 00:51 (ten years ago) link

Can't. It's been 30 years since Neuromancer so most of the people that live and work in the Marketing/Intelligence/Surveillance state are already living a post-reality Gibson world anyway. It will only get even more surreal.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 02:17 (ten years ago) link

dammit.

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 02:23 (ten years ago) link

post-cyberpunk can be kinda uplifting i think so let's hope that's the direction

Mordy , Tuesday, 2 July 2013 02:27 (ten years ago) link

the snowden archives

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link

Neuromancer?

Putin says he can get asylum in Russia if he stops leaking information.
SNOWden must be QUIET: WINTER MUTE.

StanM, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 03:24 (ten years ago) link

Watching the Greenwald speech from the Socialism 2013 conference--surprisingly full of jokes. Also:

I really do love this conference. There's no conference quite like it in terms of the vibrancy and energy, I genuinely leave inspired each time I've attended. These last 4 weeks have been the most exhausting and intense four weeks of my life, but I knew that agreeing to speak here would compel me to reflect on this time, and I wanted that. But the real reason I wanted to speak at this conference is that unlike a lot of conferences I attend & speak at, this conference is focused not only on identifying political grievances, but also on creating activism that will address those political grievances, which is crucial. The reason I say that is because at every political speech I give, one of the first questions is always "well what can we do about these things?" And I think that question is very much the predominant theme of this conference. The idea that there's really no point in talking about political problems and systemic injustices if you're not also simultaneously grappling with the question of what I as an individual can do about it.

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 03:27 (ten years ago) link

whassup

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 04:02 (ten years ago) link

this been done by a somebody

http://conference.first.org/program/index.aspx

ask a random anonymous private individual some questions

seriously hit it up babies

worst outcome is a little less cowbell than you dreamt

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 04:07 (ten years ago) link

of

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 04:08 (ten years ago) link

Ecuador has washed its hands of him and said he's Russia's problem now. Sheremetyevo's transit lounge isn't somewhere i'd particularly want to be stuck for weeks on end.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 09:06 (ten years ago) link

Can you get me a pass to that? I'm a well-travelled out-of-work drone rock database programmer who's looking to join the inside track.

Welcome back Tomboto

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 10:19 (ten years ago) link

dang it, the conference already happened. Still looking for work though...

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 10:26 (ten years ago) link

The requests were made to a number of countries including the Republic of Austria, the Plurinational State of Bolivia, the Federative Republic of Brazil, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Cuba, the Republic of Finland, the French Republic, the Federal Republic of Germany, the Republic of India, the Italian Republic, the Republic of Ireland, the Kingdom of the Netherlands, the Republic of Nicaragua, the Kingdom of Norway, the Republic of Poland, the Russian Federation, the Kingdom of Spain, the Swiss Confederation and the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.

so... which of these states is going to take him? i think it's interesting that he put the prc and cuba on his list.

dylannn, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 10:58 (ten years ago) link

Boliva, probably.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 11:01 (ten years ago) link

Bolivia, even.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 11:01 (ten years ago) link

Cuba is nice for old school spy scenery.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 11:08 (ten years ago) link

Still confused: couldn't this clown have just driven to Mexico then flown to Cuba? Shouldn't he have maybe lined up asylum first, done a little googlin', before he started leaking stuff?

Also, how does a computer programmer/analyst geek for the gov get an exotic dancer girlfriend in Hawaii?

These are all important questions.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 12:10 (ten years ago) link

I would assume that Cuba isn't his favoured destination. "Defecting" to a communist country, rather than, idk Finland, is nagl if you want people in the US to take you seriously. Obv couldn't have lined up asylum first as the NSA is reading the Finnish embassy's e-mails.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 12:12 (ten years ago) link

Regardless, why did he start in Hong Kong? And why did he not work this shit out first? He's not ending up in Finland. One way or another, he's going to end up in a warm place with a horrible human rights record.

Also, sorry, but leaking state secrets before seeking asylum in some other country is "nagl" no matter where he ends up. It's not like his detractors will be all, oh, he's in Finland, that's cool. The people who want him hung for treason likely don't distinguish between Europe and Soviet Russia.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 12:39 (ten years ago) link


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