Taking Sides: Ireland V Scotland; which has the worst bands?

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Kirsty MacColl, eh? *refrains from making some gag involving Steve Irwin and the dangers that lurk in the sea*

Noodle Vague, admittedly the stuff on this 'Best Of' did sound as if it might be a little more subdued than their punky beginnings, and I did kinda like Rum, Sodomy And The Lash when I heard it at a very early age (we've kinda lost the cassette since then), but the stuff playing on our car stereo yesterday was puuuure bilge. Might follow your advice (or find RSATL) though.

Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's easy to mistake the Pogues for one of the foixrish bands that've come after them, but there's a big deep wide talented difference.

I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I've listened to Never Mind The Bollocks again, btw. It's actually quite good, not wholly my style, but no dismissing it offhand ever again. 'Bodies' is grate! :)

You know what music I mean when I compare them to an O'Neils pub, though!

Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Does Scotland win the worst award if I mention Sandi Thom, KT Tunstall and that "punk" band Tippy is in?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Manchester or Liverpool have beeen way more productive than either of these two whole countries -ouch! That's a bit harsh no?

Pogues are genius, if you don't understand that you're a fool.

Texas = Scotland wins.

lexurian (lexurian), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

PAOLO NUTINI WINS IT FOR THE CALEDONIANS, actually.

Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish i was a bread-maker with flour in my hair.

Sandi Thom is the Doomsday Weapon of this debate.

I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

AKshully she's still not as shit as Katie Fucking Kahlua. She's Polish or sump'n isn't she? Her country for the win.

I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

KT Tunstall does push the envelope somewhat. Especially for performing with "This machine kills fascists" on her guitar. Although thankfully she didn't give a rendition of "this land is your land".

A girl once told me I looked like Nutini :(

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

can I butt in again just to say the Pogues aren't Irish in the sense of being 'from Ireland' which is what i was looking for

sonofstan (sonofstan), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

THIS MACHINE KILLS FACISTS

I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

This is the worst thread ever. (actually, it's not, but it's kind of rubbish, but in a fascinating "what nonsense will someone say next" kind of way).

Paolo Nutini's parents have a nice chipshop from where I often partake of a late-night post-pub snack.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Glasgow is the epicentre of bland, for some reason, but... Boyzone, Westlife, Bewitched. It's sooo difficult.

lexurian (lexurian), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I've still never heard Sandi Thom!

bad hair day house (fandango), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

"ireland has far worse bands (and a lot of really bad, earnest folk music)"

aw, jbr, you make me sad, there was a ton of great folk music in ireland in the late 60s & 70s

scotland does have much better pop/rock bands

timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Re: Pogues, I didn't seriously consider them as a 'worst Irish band', but I didn't like what I heard particularly, and saw this as a rather neat opportunity to get this off my chest/wind a few folk up/discover that they're actually REALLY GOOD and which records of theirs I should listen to.

In fact, every stupid comment I make here is just a way of getting great tips! ;-)

Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I hardly think Mr Nutini's chippy lets his son off for being shit, ails.

I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone wanna defend The Almighty?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw Nutini's single on The Hits (don't ask, it's amazing what Freeview can do) a month or so ago and it was actually the single blandest, vaguest, most moronic piece of music I'd ever heard. Everything about Nutini deserves the utmost, utmost contempt, most of all the fact he has a recording contract.

Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Danny Wilson anybody?

lexurian (lexurian), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Do The Waterboys score for both countries?

I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked some Waterboys, so no. And dont mention Big Country either, I liked some of their singles.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I like them both too, but Mike Scott's need to be Irish always made me chuckle.

I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a scottish girl group a few years back, but since I've never heard them I don't suppose I can really count them. Lemonscent or something they were called.

Speedway(i think they were called that) were shite.

Harry was abysmal. She covered some 80s song. It was used in an advert. Her label spent a fortune trying to promote her to the Kerrang crowd. They failed :)

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I am playing Scotland's Joker that, as it transcends good and bad thus renders this contest null and void:

http://www.galwayartsfestival.com/files/programme/418_THE-PROCLAIMERS-2003.jpg

lexurian (lexurian), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Nothing wrong with Letter From America or 500 miles.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

T/S: The Corrs vs Texas

(at least Texas did that crazy shonky version of "Say What You Want" with Method Man)

xxpost The Proclaimers FUCKING RULE

I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, 500 Miles, the song that my mother bought the Benny And Joon soundtrack for.

Hmm.

Maybe she was right along, about everything. Even Van Morrison. Even Tom Petty.

Nah.

Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

That pic should've been Hue and Cry, who despite making some good records have faces that radiate enough smug to be picked up from the Andromeda galaxy.

I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe she was right along, about everything. Even Van Morrison. Even Tom Petty.

No, I'm guessing she was right.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Exactly my point, a country capable of producing The Proclaimers are excused any and all musical faux pas subsequently there to.

lexurian (lexurian), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

oh for fuck sake Louis, come back when you start shiteing solid. Honest to god.

I'm going to make a risky assertion that Snow Patrol is the responsibility of both Ireland and Scotland. Bastard offspring of the two. Other than that does Scotland have nice sectarian hatred bands? Like The Wolfe Tones? Does Scotland have hit songs about claiming Rockall as a matter of national pride?

Also.. Joe Dolan and the beloved Showbands.

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

"I heard it YESTERDAY. My mother played it."

ilm ^^^ Are you proud?

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I still have no idea what dude is doing wrong that I haven't done at at least one point here!

bad hair day house (fandango), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

The Proclaimers weren't above getting the sectarian boot in. Wee Free Kings too, if I remember right?

I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

The Proclaimers eh?

http://www.capitalceltic.com/images/liveingalway.jpg

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

...The Wolfe Tones?
The Wolf Tones are very popular here. Certain people I went to school with only listened to rebel songs. I'm sure we have our own half-baked Wolf Tones copyists.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

No doubt. And yes they were/are very popular here.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Certain people I went to school with only wore celtic jersies.

Our common shame

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

And don't confuse them with Wolfstone.

And noone has even mentioned Runrig yet. But they geta free pass for "Dance Call America" which is ace. (i know all their late 80s/early 90s stuff as my dad liked them for a spell)
Actually that live album wasn't that bad to be honest.

x-post
Certain people I went to school with only wore celtic jersies.

That was my school(s) too. except the teachers banned celtic colours(rangers too but there was about 2 rangers supporters that i knew of)

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Whatever happened to Beltane Fire?

I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Who remembers The River Detectives? I think they win the worst band award as they're Motherwell supporters :)

Oh and now i'm reminded of THE SILENCERS.(From Airdrie).

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Slide were shite too. As were Love And Money.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Our friend the Celtic-wearing sectarian rioter. They were singing Wolfe Tone songs, lovely group of fans altogether:

http://static.flickr.com/80/234383105_ae3fa10b7c_o.jpg

They didn't like my camera.

Irish trad's better than Scottish. There's a bald statement I won't be single defense for...

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

*mount a single defense for

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Major A,

I only said it to get a response. I posted my Pogues diss as a means of expressing my displeasure at my initial (well, initial recent) Pogues experience, and knew that I'd get a right load of people suggesting new and enhanced ways of 'getting' them. Please, don't take it personally. The fact that I chose this thread was purely due to the coincidental fact that I found it now, just after that experience. I do not and never will mean to propose that the Pogues are amongst the worst groups from Ireland.

Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Aww, this thread's breaking my heart. I love so much Scottish music. Even some of the shit stuff's genius.

lexurian (lexurian), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Taking sides Foster & Allen vs The Fureys(and Davey Arthur who is scottish)
The Dubliners vs The Chieftans
The Corries vs Hamish Imlach.

Brendan Shine against ...oh fuck it whoever he's up against is gonna win, eh?
Oh wait Daniel O'Donnell. Brendan wins by KO.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:25 (seventeen years ago) link

xxpostLouis for fuck's sake! I'm a grouchy bastard, ignore me.
Buíochas leat a leaid óg.

Yeah well done, Daniel O'Donnell's album Blue Jeans, my personal soundtrack to hell.

Brendan Shine, Foster & Allen... you're making me cry...

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link

ac/dc means scotland cant win.

jethro tull does

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 22 August 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

didn't know where to put this, been listening to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSxrH8yYI_E

The stage banter at the end is hilariously cheesy after such a great and deep rendition

(i found it on a cheap vinyl record) another thread mentioned the Corries are remarkably unavailable on cd. (I certainly had never heard of them before, which must be very continental European of me)

Ludo, Saturday, 30 April 2016 15:47 (eight years ago) link

Oh god, Ireland easily.

2rrican (Turrican), Saturday, 30 April 2016 15:51 (eight years ago) link

The stage banter at the end is hilariously cheesy after such a great and deep rendition

That's folk musicians for you.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 April 2016 15:56 (eight years ago) link

I'd have to go with Ireland too

i;m thinking about thos Beans (Michael B), Saturday, 30 April 2016 16:05 (eight years ago) link

Roy Williamson was a helluva talent, Ronnie Browne, er, not so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylj-O06Is_c

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 April 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link

maybe Roy sold his soul to the devil, and had to include Ronnie Browne in the package deal hehehe. Haircut Ronnie certainly looks like he should just be in a Asterix and Obelix in Scotland in 3D adaptation

thanks for that vid!

Ludo, Saturday, 30 April 2016 16:55 (eight years ago) link


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