― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:05 (7 years ago) Permalink
i mean it does take the piss doesn't it?
― pisces, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 12:18 (5 years ago) Permalink
lo-lo-lo-looooots of piss, sir! :(
― t**t, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 15:19 (5 years ago) Permalink
I bought Help for £1 in a charity shop the other week. It was cheap because the cover was ripped (and taped up again) and the vinyl's a bit crackly, but it's not scratched at all. Even with the crackles it sounds great - a lot better than the CD versions, The Night Before especially gaining an awful lot of character and energy. I too am amazed there's no proper CD remaster, I guess because people are still buying the current shonky versions.
― The Wayward Johnny B, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 17:54 (5 years ago) Permalink
of 'The Compleat Beatles' (snappy 1984 cheaply-made proto-ANTHOLOGY movie, shot on film and narrated by Malcolm Mcdowell) is
making me anticipate this happening all the more.
― pisces, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:02 (5 years ago) Permalink
It will happen before or since, but apparently at still takes time.
I expected they'd at least do "Sgt. Pepper" in June this year to coincide with its 40th anniversary, but they did't.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:06 (5 years ago) Permalink
But at least, with the current trend for remasters, the ultimate edition will be better. I hope they will do like The Bee Gees and Monkees remasters, and put out 2CDs with the stereo version + bonus tracks in stereo on one and the mono version + bonus tracks in mono on the other one.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:07 (5 years ago) Permalink
they never do anything right with the beatles catalogue, they're sure to disappoint someone. i say live with the ebbett's bootlegs for now.
― akm, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:41 (5 years ago) Permalink
Maybe something with the Apple/iPod stuff later today.
― caek, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 14:06 (5 years ago) Permalink
that's been the rumour, but it was the rumour a few months ago also. anyway, it's been confirmed that the albums have been remastered (by bruce spizer, in some interview last month), but not packaged or manufactured yet, and no confirmation on whether they'll have a mono/stereo split or what, or when they're ever going to come out.
― akm, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 14:12 (5 years ago) Permalink
macca and ringo 'secret gig' rumoured
volume one of lewisohn triple-volume biog coming at xmas
its hotting up again on the fabs front. a bit.
― pisces, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 02:13 (5 years ago) Permalink
macca and ringo 'secret gig' rumoured
At long last their tribute show to the White Stripes.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 02:18 (5 years ago) Permalink
At long last their tribute show to the White Stripes godheadSilo.
― David R., Tuesday, 6 May 2008 02:53 (5 years ago) Permalink
― smash your phonograph in half, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 02:56 (5 years ago) Permalink
I posted that link before realizing that it is kind of a goldmine.
― smash your phonograph in half, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:25 (5 years ago) Permalink
Damn, wish I had a bigger hard drive...
― Z S, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:31 (5 years ago) Permalink
(no penis jokes plz)
if pressed for time, go for white album disc 5 - kinfauns demos
then rubber soul through magical mystery tour, mono versions
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:31 (5 years ago) Permalink
Are the demos the same as the ones that show up on the Anthology, or are these different? And how do they compare in quality?
― Z S, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:36 (5 years ago) Permalink
makes me wish i had decent external speakers for my laptop. my beatles records are not very "nice" copies. all US pressings, mostly stereo. they do sound great in mono though.
― ian, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:42 (5 years ago) Permalink
mono mixes = the mixes, up until the white album
xpost same ones, but complete & good quality. it's them camped at home with a 4 track, learning the songs as they track them but having fun, sounding much more like a band than the album
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 03:46 (5 years ago) Permalink
i really wish that circus mashup album didn't suck so bad.
― Creeztophair, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 04:59 (5 years ago) Permalink
has anyone ever noticed that the ebbetts bootlegs sound like crap on headphones?. especially yellow submarine and magical mystery tour.
― Creeztophair, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 05:29 (5 years ago) Permalink
the stereo of those albums (some of them) is very wide so that's why; ebbetts did cd versions of almost everything though, including weird shit like canadian stereo versions, etc, which differ slightly. I think the regular cd stereo versionns of MMT and Pepper are alright (and really don't have any serious problems with white album or abbey road either; I think abbey road is a pretty glorious sounding cd). the early records are a mixed bag; these days I prefer the capitol box versions (anyway I grew up with the US versions of the albums, so it's kind of nice to return to the admittedly fucked up tracklistings...though I do think 'the second album' is pretty awesome).
anyway yeah the purple chick stuff is pretty exciting, it seems to have just popped up in the past few months? or at least that's where I heard about it. and being distributed completely free so no evil bootleggers making money. it makes official remasters kind of irrelevant.
today i listened to all the 'sessions' mixes of tracks off the anthology,critically and without the 'oh wow new beatles songs' luster...these really do sound like shit, emerick should be embarrassed.
― akm, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 06:05 (5 years ago) Permalink
but also yeah, i'm pretty much ready to sell all my parlophone beatles cds once I can get ahold of all the purple chick stuff; i usually only listen to digital files anyway, and I have a blue box vinyl set, so there's no need to keep the crappy pressings with bad artwork.
― akm, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 06:10 (5 years ago) Permalink
also, while I agree that the mono pepper is interesting, i really disagree that it's the better of the mixes. I think the novelty of it is kind of cool but there are bits and pieces that just sound sloppy. I know it's allegedly the mix they approved and they apparently didn't have much to do with the stereo version, but maybe that just shows the beatles were the best people to mix their material
― akm, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 06:14 (5 years ago) Permalink
the purple chick version of the white album is really really amazing. i'm working on just downloading the albums (no bonus tracks) and converting them to mp3, for my ipod. the only problem is that some of the tracks are switched around. like...penny lane is on the purple chick version of sgt pepper's. it's kinda confusing when dealing with torrents.
― Creeztophair, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 06:17 (5 years ago) Permalink
The Purple Chick stuff is impressive though really it's just collating already available stuff in one place. It does that very very well though and as well as the main albums they've also done releases of Hollywood Bowl, The Songs The Beatles Gave Away, the fan club records, the Star Club tapes, the BBC sessions and the 92CD complete Get Back rehearsals (also check out their 10CD complete Buddy Holly and S&G's alternate Bookends)
The mono and stereo versions of the albums on the Purple Chick sets are just the UK Ebbetts versions. There is a version of the white album released by Darthdisc (? - i think) which is from a 'direct metal master' that may even be better.
The mono Pepper is sloppy in places but certainly Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds sounds better (more phasing).
Has anyone else heard the multitracks of A Day In The Life, With A Little Help From My Friends, Sgt Pepper and She's Leaving Home that were released as an addendum to the PC Sgt Pepper? Incredible to hear.
― cheasyweasel, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:07 (5 years ago) Permalink
itll sound shit remastered. cant you just enjoy the originals?
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:53 (5 years ago) Permalink
you mean the 1st pressing UK vinyl? sure, we can all enjoy those.
― ian, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 13:57 (5 years ago) Permalink
well, I can, anyroad.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 14:25 (5 years ago) Permalink
no way are these the same as the ebbet's version. especially not mmt.
― Creeztophair, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 23:27 (5 years ago) Permalink
Found this bootleg stereo remaster of what's probably my favorite Beatles album. It blows the original CD version out of the water and I think it's more impressive than any of the purple chick stuff.
Here's a mono version for you old-schoolers. Didn't download it, though, so I can't vouch for it.
― Jazzbo, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 18:04 (5 years ago) Permalink
Creeztophair, there are multiple Ebbett versions of each album: UK, US, Mono, Stereo, strange pressings from other territories. He's pretty much transferred them all so it depends what Ebbett version of MMT you've heard.
I have the PC Magical Mystery Years sleevenotes in front of me now and the stereo MMT tracks are taken from the Ebbett German MMT except for I Am The Walrus which is from the Ebbett UK EP Collection. The mono tracks are all from the Ebbett EP Collection.
I think this is the only one of the PC releases that doesn't take the main album tracks from the Ebbett transfer of the UK releases. IIRC this is because the German MMT vinyl release was in true stereo whereas the US LP was not.
― cheasyweasel, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 22:27 (5 years ago) Permalink
these PURPLE CHICK people should be knighted.
― piscesx, Sunday, 13 July 2008 01:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
Okay here we go then.
MOJO (who else?) exclusively reports this month that the original albums have been remastered and will hopefully be coming out in 2009, in a full on splurge of mono and stereo 2 disc versions, with fancy hardback book style packaging. Sorry but as a huuuuge Beatles fan since a kid this may well be the first time i queue up outside a record shop the morning it opens.
The piece in the mag says"For today's playback, stereo remastering engineer Guy Massey has synchronised the remasters with the original 1987 CD masters, allowing us to flip between the two. It's like we've been hearing them under glass all these years..."
― piscesx, Monday, 15 September 2008 12:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
It will be interesting to see if these sound as good as the bootlegs.
― Jazzbo, Monday, 15 September 2008 14:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
Looks like Apple may have more to say about it tomorrow. No 5.1 mixes — guess we'll be buying those down the road.http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/apple-to-confirm-beatles-itunes-deal-and-new-ipods-on-tuesday-172271
― Jazzbo, Monday, 15 September 2008 14:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
that was last tuesday right? and there was no fabs news i don't think.
― piscesx, Monday, 15 September 2008 16:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yup, my bad.
― Jazzbo, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 12:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
something is allegedly going to be in rolling stone in the next few weeks, and apple should be offically announcing in the next week as well, from what I read elsewhere.
― akm, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
Hopefully they'll take a leaf out of Radiohead's short-lead-time example, and pump them out in two weeks time.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 September 2008 13:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think the rumored plan was to do the white album first to coincide with the 40th anniversary, then roll out the others. but it was just a rumor so no idea if that's what'll happen.
― akm, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 17:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
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Man, this shit is thrilling, I could not believe my ears when I found out about it. I haven't gotten any of the other masters that have come out recently (Nirvana & Queen are very appealing tho...). The most amazing part was having the affirmation that Sgt. Pepper was recorded on 4 tracks. You listen to these and say, wow, crap, I guess they must have bumped down/premixed a TON of stuff. If you have experience with home recording on 4-tracks you realize just how much care went into making sure these mixes were as tight as they were. Such a cool thing to have..
Any decent new bootlegs surface lately? I've been out of the loop for a while. I don't care about the remasters cos it sounds to me like nothing new will come out just the whole 'alternate mixes' scheme. Which is one of the reasons I stopped paying attention to bootlegs in the first place. I dont care about alternate mixes give me Carnival of Light or the Beatles jamming on one chord stoned for half an hour! Anything but "Oh, this is the german stereo 1984 remix". Ugh....
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 20:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
I think those multitracks are the only "new" things to appear. The Purple Chick series is widely available though via torrent sites, they are very very very comprehensive .flac files of the best sources of both mono and stereo versions of each album and assorted outtakes studio sessions...nothing that wasn't already around on past masters or ultra rare trax, but everything has been compiled together with the best sources for once. but it took me like, days to get all the white album stuff, and I've not even been able to listen to it.
― akm, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 20:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
I've not been able to listen to *any* of it... yet.
Oh, but by the way, I have that german stereo 1964 LP, and was dead pleased to get the CD 'facsimile' when it came out: We were living in Germany at the time...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 21:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
5.1 mixes might have been a waste, considering everything up to "Sgt. Pepper" was max 4 tracks. A 5:1 mix consisting of 4 mono tracks becomes a bit pointless, really.
If there was ever a way to relocate the 2 tracks of "Love Me Do", "PS I Love You", "She Loves You" and "I'll Get You" to be able to create stereo versions. But I guess that is a lost case by now, and that whatever existed was being mixed into stereo in the late 60s already.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 21:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think the rumored plan was to do the white album first to coincide with the 40th anniversary
Sounds like a pointless idea considering the white album is actually the only (full) album to have been relatively newly remastered.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 21:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
it wasn't remastered, it was just pointlessly reissued in (albeit nicer) packaging
― akm, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 22:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
OK. I never bought it. Had it not been one of my least favourite Beatles albums, they might have fooled me to buy it.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 00:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
Chapter 6Harrison's cousin was born and raised in Shropshire, the only child of a couple who owned a local pub called ...
― tylerw, Friday, 1 February 2013 21:52 (3 months ago) Permalink
Great detail about the color of all the assistants' tunics shirts at each Abbey Road session.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 1 February 2013 21:53 (3 months ago) Permalink
Holy crap what.
blah blah RELEASE Carnival of Light! blah blah blah
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 2 February 2013 04:07 (3 months ago) Permalink
Stereo Vinyl box set review from Stereophile.
spoiler: not as good as the absolute best releases of the Beatles on vinyl.
Mono box set still out there in the either, waiting for that algorithm at Apple corps. to decide when we're all ready to spend silly money on Beatles stuff again...
looking forward to the Sterephobe review.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Thursday, 21 March 2013 11:01 (1 month ago) Permalink
Like most Americans at the time, I first heard the Beatles on Capitol vinyl that wasn't displaced by CDs until the late '80s, and Capitol though nothing of mucking with the music (adding tons of reverb, wildly altering the stereo mix, etc.) as well as the album titles and tracks. All of the "real" British CDs, LPs, and downloads sound dry compared to what I grew up with.
I don't know how legit some of the Stereophile points are - yes, a modern vinyl reissue doesn't sound like an original 1960s pressing played on modern equipment, but what was there to play it back upon their original release that compares to what we have now, in terms of phono cartriges, turntables, amps, speakers? What 1964 turntable/cartridge combo could capture the nuances of a good post-'80s setup?
― Lee626, Thursday, 21 March 2013 12:24 (1 month ago) Permalink
yeah hard to say. haven't bought this yet because of reservations like that article.
i did think White Album sounded like absolute shit on the CD reissues for whatever reason, esp the Mono version (which i generally liked the mono CDs esp on the early albums)
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 March 2013 19:26 (1 month ago) Permalink
there were lots of great turntables in 1964! most people didn't own them though.
― scott seward, Thursday, 21 March 2013 19:36 (1 month ago) Permalink