Parts of American culture that have never really been imported outside the US

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Seriously?! That sounds absurd.

Tuomas, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link

if you did a poll in America checking her name recognition, you'd probably get less than 35%. the number of people who are really into her 'philosophy' is dwarfed by the number of people who like her books as 'literature' or simply because it makes them feel good about being narcissistic.

Okay, whatever, my point was that she seems to be an influential writer (whether as an novelist or as a philosopher) in the US (and maybe other English-speaking countries) who is virtually unknown in Continental Europe.

Tuomas, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link

americans think sidewalks are for scary people who can't even afford to ride the bus. there was some suburb (in virginia, i think) that passed an ordinance a few years ago requiring sidewalks be installed in all these subdivisions that didn't have them (because kids were getting hit by cars or something), and the people in the subdivisions flipped the fuck out at the thought of strangers being able to walk past their homes. (then they probably all went to the next gun show to stock up.)

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link

gun shows

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

deep fried twinkies

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^ not sure that's even out of MN yet, to be honest

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost:

i mean, seriously, for your average suburban american, the idea of having to walk anywhere is threatening and bizarre. that's why half of suburbia is parking lots.

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.egge.net/~savory/friedmars.jpg

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

decent mexican food

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

jokes about canada

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

ignoring soccer

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link

creationist theme parks

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link

"tossing the pigskin"

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link

men's league softball

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Seems like the suburbian American idea of public and private space is very different from the European one. No wonder suburban kids in the US hang out in malls, if they don't even have sidewalks to loiter on.

Tuomas, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link

There aren't that many real suburbs in the US ... people just call anything that's not a city "the suburbs". I grew up in the suburbs of NYC and there are sidewalks, trains, buses, etc.

Most places with no sidewalks, etc., are exurban or rural kinda places, and it's not too surprising that they aren't all that well developed.

burt_stanton, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link

keg parties in cornfields/gravel pits (<---- I just sort of assumed that Euros don't have kegs party and that everyone else is too poor or something)

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay, whatever, my point was that she seems to be an influential writer (whether as an novelist or as a philosopher) in the US (and maybe other English-speaking countries) who is virtually unknown in Continental Europe.

but you're just wrong. yes, she has influenced a small number of people who happen to have been important in government, on the right-wing side, but she is a very very tiny element in american culture writ large.

gabbneb, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link

My mom's never really made much of an impact outside of the U.S.

G00blar, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean, seriously, for your average suburban american, the idea of having to walk anywhere is threatening and bizarre.

I realise this is a little hyperbolic but it is pretty freaking sad, as well. Aussies are as lazy as the next bastard and we have some car congestion probs too, but there's as big a movement of ppl getting about on foot, bikes, trams, etc.

The idea that public transport and walking is strictly for poor/scary/homeless people is just... I don't know what to say.

Trayce, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

clear pie

jhøshea, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link

freedom

jhøshea, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link

grits

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link

true grit

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

the balls to stand up to a dictator

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Hershey's chocolate

G00blar, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

What the hell are grits, anyway? There are aspects of American culture that have never been imported to other parts of AMerica

burt_stanton, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

corn mazes

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

xp that was not an answer to your question

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

corncob gruel

jhøshea, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

that was an answer to yr question

jhøshea, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

minor league baseball

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

aspen, co

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

indian reservations

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

funnel cake

jhøshea, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link

there are many suburban/exurban areas in which you'd have to walk for miles to get to any commercial establishment. people who live in these areas don't think that 'walking is just for poor/homeless people', as there are no poor/homeless people in these areas. however, walking in these areas could be scary in such areas even to a total urbanite, because there are no other people around except for people who are driving by in cars.

gabbneb, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link

civilian militias (<---this exception i guess is limited to the "first world")

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I grew up in the suburbs of NYCboston and there are sidewalks, trains, buses, etc.

jhøshea, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

honkytonks

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

the dave matthews band

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

decent mexican food

-- gbx, Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:13 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

The question that logically follows is WHY?

RabiesAngentleman, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

a good thread would be: parts of american culture we would like to apologize for loosing on the rest of the world

1 jam bands

jhøshea, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

sorta sick of doing all the heavy lifting around here, guys

xp are you british?

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I grew up in the suburbs of NYCboston and there are sidewalks, trains, buses, etc.

these are more urban "inner-ring suburbs"

gabbneb, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Am I british, or do you mean jho? (gbx)

RabiesAngentleman, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

things that some americans are sometimes inclined to think are exclusively---and embarrassingly---american but actually aren't:

* being crazy about guns
* tractor pulls
* ridiculous affection for motorsports
* hunting shit
* bad manners abroad
* willful ignorance of and a simmering disdain for foreign cultures coupled, paradoxically, with an generosity towards visiting strangers

xp you, rabies. jho i already know everything about

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

EVERYTHING

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

i think i was mostly thinking about england and germany in that last one

gbx, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

O M G

jhøshea, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

!

jhøshea, Sunday, 25 May 2008 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

The very first episode of Spooks (Not called Spooks in the U.S.) that I watched was about anti-abortion bombings. But, to be fair, the anti-abortion Brits were led by an American.

scott seward, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link

Talk about far-fetched.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link

Pro-life terrorism.

otm. this is strictly a US cultural phenomenon. and in typically US fashion, there are plenty of people who make money off it.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:36 (seven years ago) link

beloved los angeles college radio station kcrw used to go hard on jungle/dnb nights in the 90s

best dj sets i heard at that time because vancouver was musically lagging by a decade at that point

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:41 (seven years ago) link

scott i share your skepta-cism

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 January 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

There's an actual root beer thread but this is where we talked about root beer last month so eh.

I bought a fizzy drink in the local Chinese supermarket, not knowing what it was, but the can looked kind of Dr Pepper-like so I figured why not. Opened it, familiar smell, kind of like Germolene... wait, didn't I have a drink which tasted of Germolene last month too?

Oh yes. I appear to be drinking Chinese root beer, more or less. https://starkravingblog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/wonderful-world-of-root-beer-watsons.html

(My can just says 沙示, but even if it had said Sarsae I don't think I'd have made the connection to Sarsaparilla, though it might have made me think of Sarson's vinegar which might have dissuaded me from buying it...)

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 16 February 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link

I was in China for ten years before I tried Sarsae. It's like rubbish watered down root beer. I did live on Watson's soda water for a year or two though. I never did get over the absurdity of the only manufacturer of American-style soft drinks being the nation's biggest drugstore chain.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 16 February 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link


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