FRONTLINE: the pbs documentary series not the flea medicine

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Also, interestingly, they're airing it on Univision as well as PBS in order to reach more Hispanic viewers.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link

really? that's actually awesome.

folsom country prism (Jon Lewis), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link

Really! I thought so too! Great idea.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link

Esp considering the quality of programming on US Spanish language tv in general.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link

Oof. That would be a good one to show to my next employment law class just to really bum them the fuck out. "Enjoy this movie, students! I'll be out in the hall reading a book so I don't cry in front of you."

that's great re: Univision.

carl agatha, Monday, 10 June 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link

tbh that latest one, I would totally read the facts in text but I might not be able to handle it through the eyes/ears. So abysmal.

folsom country prism (Jon Lewis), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link

watched the retirement one last night
really think it should be required viewing -- esp liked the part about how fiduciary agreements and how financial services professionals intentionally give the impression that they are on the customer's side when they decidedly are not.

super recommend powering through the heavy uncomfortable reality of the first 10 min (i'm going to work until i'm 90, when i will die at work) to learn about the stuff that the financial services industry has been selling us via retirements accounts/managed mutual funds and also to watch the CEOs squirm like worms under pretty serious direct questioning about their products.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Sunday, 23 June 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link

pls mentally remove that first "how"

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Sunday, 23 June 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Next on Frontline: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/business-economy-financial-crisis/two-american-families/in-milwaukee-a-familys-struggle-for-survival/

In 1991, when Bill Moyers first began following the lives of Claude and Jackie Stanley, the parents of five had just been laid off from well-paying manufacturing jobs in Milwaukee.

They’ve been battling to keep from sliding into poverty ever since.

Two American Families, a 90-minute FRONTLINE documentary premiering July 9, tells the Stanleys’ story — and that of another Milwaukee family, the Neumanns — all the way up to the present, and raises troubling questions about trends toward part-time, low-wage work in America.

In this excerpt from Two American Families, meet Claude and Jackie, now approaching retirement age, and their son, Keith, now grown.

“My heart goes out to that generation that was promised something from America, by America — that they would have a better life. And that’s not the case anymore,” Keith tells Moyers.

Bill Moyers will appear tonight (June 26) on The Colbert Report to discuss Two American Families. The documentary premieres July 9 on FRONTLINE (check local PBS listings).

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 8 July 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link

Also - I watched about 20 min of the one about agricultural workers and it felt too much like talking to one of my students, had to stop watching. It reminded me of how many truly horrific stories I've heard.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 8 July 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link

george packer wrote about this btw, it sounds really good

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/07/the-fall-of-the-american-worker.html

szarkasm (schlump), Monday, 8 July 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link

i saw bill moyers on the aforementioned june 26th colbert report episode. apparently this will be the 200th frontline episode!

Z S, Monday, 8 July 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link

I look forward to discussing it with fellow Frontline viewers here. Happy 200th bday, Frontline!

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 8 July 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link

also to watch the CEOs squirm like worms under pretty serious direct questioning about their products.

Just watched this yesterday. Those fucking motherfuckers..."Well, we believe our commission-based financial consultants who are under no obligation to put the customer's interests ahead of their own are just as good as fiduciaries."

I'm so glad they believe that.

looking forward to that new one, will set DVR tonight

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 July 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link

Their squirming was visible -- I could almost smell their nerve sweat through the tv. Assholes. But I do thank Frontline for giving me a seat at that worm show -- no one else has bothered to ask those questions in such stark terms.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 8 July 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

the two families episode is still with me. i think of the woman at the table sitting there wondering where she's going to live and wondering why the bank wouldn't let her keep her home. her sons and their problems were also really familiar and resonant to me. the preacher/motivational speaker family had interesting complexities too. i like the investigative "go inside" frontlines better than the "domestic portrait" ones but the latter are always the ones that stick with me emotionally.

not sure if i can deal with the depressing facts revealed in "what's wrong with assisted living" coming up this week.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link

yeah i saw that scheduled on my dvr. feel like i'll watch it, but thru my fingers like a horror movie

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 30 July 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link

i predict weeks of nightmares

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link

Great, just in time for my trip to my (84 year old, still living independently) mother's.

Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link

Oh man I have had enough peripheral involvement in nursing home litigation that I neither need nor want to watch the assisted living doc. Ugh.

Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

yeah i watched this, & i have some professional involvment also & kinda a high tolerance for it. there is always going to be some negligence and some of it will look really monstrous. plus obv this is a super vulnerable community. i dont like the implication here that it's somehow worse cuz u might be private-paying $5k a month

ill have 2 ask colleagues if emeritus has a bad rep i dont think they really do business in the east or maybe not much. lot of it is, right, just lack of training, corporate bottom-line culture. those are legit and suck. ppl w/ real health probs should not be in assisted living and prob the states need to have regs that specify this & force the corps (& fines) to get ppl 2 nursing facilities; get the continuum of care model going and you can make it strongly in emertus's bottom line interest to idk have working partnerships w/ skilled nurs homes

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link

Nine minute into this assisted-living documentary and already I want to put the Emeritus CEO in a body cast.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 July 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link

their promos for it all look like ads for horror movies
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7333/9413507091_f45f9e2ca7.jpg

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 1 August 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link

this is waaay scarier than another phony exorcism
try exorcising potentially lethal bedsores; you will not get very far

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 1 August 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link

I finally managed to watch the assisted living episode. Some thoughts --

1) not as bad as I had imagined. I learned a lot about regulation and feel good for having learned it. Thanks Frontline.
2) I can't even imagine what those employees went through in order to earn their paychecks. That was sad.
3) The Boice story was heartbreaking, but the son was so eloquent and calm and rational that I wound up feeling impressed at their ability to become the public face of this crisis.
4) The elder care attorney with the blonde hair who looked like a cross between Gwen Stefani and Elizabeth Warren was an absolute delight. She was so smart and pretty and determined and firm. She was awesome.

In sum, not as terrifying as I had feared, mainly because it dealt with Emeritus specifically. On the other hand, fuck that company for real. Their "lock the back door" (or whatever it was) policy turned my stomach.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I felt like focusing on Emeritus made it a lot easier to grapple with, and I didn't come away thinking that Assisted Care as a whole was bad, just that one definitely needs to know what your elderly family member is capable of + what the assisted care facility can feasibly provide, vs skilled nursing etc.

I really loved the Texas lady who had done all the research into Assited Care, the one who looked kinda like Ina Garten.

And that Emeritus CEO really turned my stomach. Especially when speaking about the Boice case, and the woman who climbed out the window, basically saying "well we take all the necessary precautions but these dementia patients...you just don't know what they're going to do" *shrug*

fuck. you.

btw the emeritus Emerald Hills facility is about 30 minutes outside Sacramento. When they started showing the case on Frontline I remembered some of it because the lawsuit was covered in the local papers.

the pen is mightier than the penisword (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 5 August 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

i have been hungry for a new one, but there haven't been any on lately

here is an update from robin "kind hearted woman" charboneau
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/biographies/kind-hearted-woman/an-update-from-the-kind-hearted-woman/

it also reminded me to find the part of the movie where she talks about giving her speech and preparing for it because i NEED to show that to my students.

no fomo (La Lechera), Friday, 13 September 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link

The one about Egypt (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/egypt-in-crisis/) is really really good! Unless you followed the Egyptian revolution very closely, you probably missed at least some of the stuff in here. I know I did. Special shout out for the sizzlin hot law student in the tent who was dubious about the Brotherhood and the handsome musician who talked about his whole body being electrocuted. It's pretty raw, but really beautifully shot. There are lots of talking heads*, but also lots of other footage like being right up in it while the military disturbs a protest. There's a lot of interesting stuff about Copts/Coptic Christians too, if ancient peoples interest you. Recommended!

*I secretly love talking heads because I can really stare at people's faces while they're talking.

special beet service (La Lechera), Friday, 20 September 2013 04:37 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"Inside Japan's Nuclear Meltdown" is scaaaaaaaary

Untt (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 October 2013 02:52 (ten years ago) link

Ohhhhhhh as a treat for finishing a bunch of reading for skool I'm gonna watch a Frontline! Don't know which one yet. Last one was the assisted living expose.

quincie, Saturday, 5 October 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link

Those doc's are a goldmine, I don't think I'll be watching much else for a while. I feel a long dark weekend filled with statistics and depressing facts coming up.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/ has helped me though sleepless nights too.

not_goodwin, Saturday, 5 October 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link

I feel a long dark weekend filled with statistics and depressing facts coming up.
the ones that feature translators are particularly satisfying because you hear people saying really depressing things in an emotionless flat way. it has its own special charm.

Untt (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 October 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link

NEW ONE TONIGHT
about football and concussions

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/league-of-denial/

The National Football League, a multibillion-dollar commercial juggernaut, presides over America’s indisputable national pastime. But the NFL is under assault: thousands of former players have claimed the league tried to cover up how football inflicted long-term brain injuries on many players. What did the NFL know, and when did it know it? In a special two-hour investigation, FRONTLINE reveals the hidden story of the NFL and brain injuries.

Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 00:03 (ten years ago) link

Sounds gooooooooooood

Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link

Oh! I want to see that one.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link

ESPN was supposed to cooperate with the production of this, but backed out for fear of making the NFL angry. ESPN = the worst.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link

OK I have made it 7 min into this thing and Mike Webster's feet and legs and the Nigerian medical examiner saying he looked "worn out" -- too much! Frontline really bringing the sad in this one.

Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 02:13 (ten years ago) link

omg, one min later they get to the part about how he used to superglue his teeth back in and i just...
yikes

frontline really knows how to frontload a doc about concussions!

Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link

this is really good

ESPN backing out of this made them look so awful. especially when the NFL then settles the class action a few weeks later for three-quarters of a BILLION.

dmr, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 02:20 (ten years ago) link

I admit to wanting to watch this because I have ~opinions~ about how pro (and college, omg college) sports treats people as disposable (plus the dynamic of white owners/coaches commodifying people of color) so this is really just going to reinforce an opinion I already hold, but I'm really excited about it.

Interesting about ESPN. A couple of their 30 for 30 documentaries touched on some of this stuff and were really good. There was one about who pro sports players go broke that didn't put the brutal treatment of athletes' bodies at the center but certainly made the point that getting tackled all the time is not a physically sustainable way to make a living.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:26 (ten years ago) link

I watched this. Very powerful stuff. At one point toward the end, it was noted that, of the 46 brains of ex-NFL players that have so far been examined after death, 45 of them showed signs of CTE (chronic traumatic encephalopathy), a degenerative disease caused by repeated blows to the head. 45 of 46. That's just grim.

Aimless, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link

there are a couple choice voice over moments

"and goodell offered doctor mckee something she needed even more than money.........brains"

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link

that's awesome. also reminds me -- their audiocasts are way behind iirc
still haven't finished watching this one...sometimes i like to drag them out so i get to enjoy them on more than one occasion instead of sitting down and watching the whole thing at once.

Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link

the nigerian ME was such a character... he somehow brought some levity to the doc

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link

frontline really knows how to frontload a doc about concussions!

― Untt (La Lechera), Tuesday, October 8, 2013 7:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol <3

JEFF 22 (Matt P), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link

Not growing up steeped in the NFL helped the Nigerian medical examiner see Webster's situation in a different light, that's for sure. It was totally true that all of this coming to light pivots on that point. I love when that happens. Like if this ooooone little thing hadn't happened, none of this other stuff would have ever happened and we wouldn't know about xyz horrible thing that happened.

Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link

xxp yes he should have his own show

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link

the nigerian doctor and the two heads of the BU brain bank should be in the NFL hall of fame imo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link

Some good new ones -- I really liked the one about Iraqis/the war (Once Upon a Time in Iraq) and the most recent one about C19 + agricultural/meatpacking workers is essential if you have eaten a piece of broccoli in the last 5 months (and didn't grow it yourself, and if you did enjoy your high horse!)
Covid's Hidden Toll https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/covids-hidden-toll/

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 23 July 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

nine months pass...

1) Here to stan for Independent Lens' docu-series Philly DA (the series, not necessarily the man although I believe he has good intentions)
2) There's a new Frontline about refugees from Eritrea and one of my students wrote her final project about this very same journey! Looking forward to watching that one
3) Have not watched the covid retrospective docs yet -- I feel like it's a little soon?!?!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 May 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

first ep of Philly DA was great, not looking forward to the way this unravels... it unravels right? How can it not unravel.

It's so gooooooooood!!! I like the eps that drift away from the central Krasner-tory the best but he was obvs the reason for the season. I watched the whole thing already bc I have PBS passport & was hungry for docs. My only recommendation is to watch it quickly because it's easy to get confused and the filmmakers didn't remind us what everyone's name is so it's always "that lady w curly hair who was a holdover from previous administration" or whatever.

Also the screaming FOP-supporting white people = background players in Mare of Easttown

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 7 June 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link

Krasner-Story
typo oops

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 7 June 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

This looks promising! Sort of boring, but I like that --

A trove of nearly 12 million confidential documents, collectively known as the Pandora Papers, reveals the hidden assets and secret deals of some of the world’s wealthiest and most powerful people, including 130 billionaires, 35 current and former world leaders and more than 330 politicians and public officials.

The documents — shared with the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists by an anonymous source — include records from 14 financial service providers around the world. The leaked files illustrate the global entanglement of political power and secretive offshore finance, and how U.S. trusts are sheltering millions in controversial assets.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/pandora-papers-video-news-icij/

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 4 October 2021 13:28 (two years ago) link

Some earlier talk here: The proof is in the Putin: thread for Panama Papers/Mossack Fonseca leaks.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 4 October 2021 20:05 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

the el mozote episode from yesterday is heartbreaking

certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 11 November 2021 01:27 (two years ago) link

i don't think i'll be watching that one. for the curious and non-googling https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/massacre-in-el-salvador/

i am however interested in the Pandora Papers segment that apparently also finally aired. I've been out of the loop lately!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Welp. I haven't made it through the USA and the Taliban three-parter but I am almost through the one about Clarence and Ginni and I am here to recommend for anyone who lives in USA and is subject to the rulings of the Supreme Court (aka everyone who lives in USA or cares). These people, my god. If you're not there for "how did they get here?" seeing his testimony juxtaposed with Anita Hill's and knowing one of them had to be perjuring themselves...and that it wasn't Anita Hill? Bone chilling.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/clarence-and-ginni-thomas/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJuRx1wARUk

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 12 May 2023 15:02 (eleven months ago) link

One of the most chilling things was how everything -- everything!! -- comes or goes through Ginni. When the confirmation trials were going down, Ginni reported to John Danforth that Clarence was suffering with stress, "curled up in the fetal position" and apparently "a broken man" -- in an interview in the documentary he said "it's hard to see a man suffer that way" (or something to that effect) but

did he SEE it? no
it was reported by Ginni

they are truly a group project. in light of current circumstances, i really do think this is an illuminating look at the damage this type of marital partnership can inflict when they are fully coordinated. which they are.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 12 May 2023 17:00 (eleven months ago) link


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