"Till the Morning Comes" off After the Gold Rush: contender for the best 1 minute song ever?― arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Saturday, June 1, 2013 9:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkIt's great, but Wire owns that category― Z S, Saturday, June 1, 2013 11:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Saturday, June 1, 2013 9:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It's great, but Wire owns that category
― Z S, Saturday, June 1, 2013 11:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I just dissed Moby Grape in another thread, but "Naked If I Want" might be the correct answer here. The revelation of something like "Field Day for the Sundays"--the fact that 1/5th of a full punk song is still a full punk song--is p profound, but I'm not sure it matches "I ain't got no money now, but I will pay you before I die"
― Drugs A. Money, Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link
Was there really that much musical difference between NY and Sonic Youth in the 90s though? Why the OTT hate? Were these gigs attended by a bunch of Harvest nostalgics?
yes!!! for a very long time (and maybe still; i haven't seen him in a long time) neil's gigs were very very heavily attended by harvest nostalgics who didn't have a lot of interest in hearing neil play feedback for five minutes, never mind hearing sonic youth play feedback for a lot longer.
and whether there was much musical difference between ny and sy -- and there was -- is somewhat beside the point. his audience was very much a classic-rock audience. and theirs was not.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 3 June 2013 07:32 (ten years ago) link
!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=doPtRvVPlhY#!
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link
i mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=doPtRvVPlhY
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doPtRvVPlhY
haha, yeah i'd only seen a clip or two of that, never the whole thing. strange! hal asbhy directed!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
neil jamming on the synth drums and then coming out w/ the shocking pinks...such a weird era.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
...after starting out singing "heart of gold" on acoustic guitar. i think it was even weirder then than it looks now.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
it is funny -- in these internet days, we can know all about what an artist is going to be doing during a tour, but back then people probably saw an ad in the paper that said neil young was playing in their town and that was all they knew. and then they got ... this.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
excited to watch this
lol'ing at interminable length of opening credits....
― Mr. Scarf Ace is Back (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
I've seen video footage of Trans stuff being performed on the European tour (Nils Lofgren does some interpretive dancing) that is just amazing
― Mr. Scarf Ace is Back (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
Is this the same footage as that DVD of the same tour?
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
no, there's the Berlin video, which is the euro tour, this is after that... don't think this has ever been on DVD.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
yeah I was referring to the Berlin video
― Mr. Scarf Ace is Back (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
This blows the Berlin stuff away. Deeply weird, but the audience gets their money's worth.
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
― tylerw, Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:19 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
He's pretty much begging Geffen to sue him at this point.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link
lol @ synthdrum fills on Don't Be Denied
― Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link
so weird to see Neil w/a microphone and no guitar
― Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link
omigod!
xpost
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link
hmm this Willie and the Hand Jive ripoff is pretty good
― Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link
shocking pinks do seem like they'd be fun live...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link
gonna be able to watch this tomorrow and i can't wait
― da croupier, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
confession: I have never heard the shocking pinks album
― Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
this is a lot better, really.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link
seems as though the shocking pinks numbers (get gone and don't take your love) included on the Lucky 13 comp are from this show.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
More on NY/SY tour http://thrasherswheat.org/jammin/sonic_youth.htm
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link
"This thing here is called a Synclavier."
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link
goddamn it clip taken down :(
― unfinest DN (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 June 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
shakey pictures websherriffed it
Don't want hurt the sales of Archives III in 2061.
― Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 June 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
damn. well now that neil knows there is a ravenous demand for this era, maybe he'll put it out on PONO Ray.
― tylerw, Friday, 7 June 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link
i would love to hear trans outtakes, c'mon neil!!
― unfinest DN (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 June 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
PONO!
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 7 June 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
i would happily buy that video to play on my ponograph machine.
Trans is ace.
Listened to Comes a Time today, which I haven't in a long, long while. It feels like the natural successor to Harvest in many ways, and I'm sure it's what a lot of people had expected as the follow-up to 1972's best-selling album, rather than the Ditch Trilogy (I believe it was the first of Neil's albums to reach the top 10 since Harvest). It's very good, but I never hear much about it from NY fans. Opinions?
― arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Friday, 7 June 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link
i LOVE Comes a Time.. it's a glorious and wonderful record. <3 four strong winds <3 lotta love <3 the title track..
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 7 June 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
comes a time is classic -- could probably do without motorcycle mama, but everything else is awesome. one of neil's breeziest/easiest (even moreso than Harvest, really) but it kind of sneaks up on you.
― tylerw, Friday, 7 June 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link
Motorcycle Mama isn't bad it's just out of place on the record
― Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 June 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link
I dunno, that record never really did it for me. Love "Lotta Love" and "Look Out For My Love" especially, but the arrangements on the rest (especially the jaunty strings on "Comes A Time") felt too syrupy.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 7 June 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link
This is definitely one of the few times when record executives made a suggestion to a major artist(that Neil supplement his solo acoustic recordings with a rhythm section) which turned out to be the correct move.
From 1969's Everybody Knows This is Nowhere through 1979's Rust Never Sleeps and including eight studio albums, Neil must have one of the greatest streaks in rock history, no?
― arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Friday, 7 June 2013 23:35 (ten years ago) link
Tarfumes, I can see why someone would think that. Are you more a fan of Neil's heavier stuff?
― arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Friday, 7 June 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link
Generally yeah, I'd say so, but not to the exclusion of his acoustic side. I love the Massey Hall and Riverboat sets, and "Thrasher" is probably in my top 5 (with "Pocahontas" close behind). That said, "Sail Away" is my least favorite song on Rust, ditto "Through My Sails" on Zuma (but I love "Pardon My Heart"). There's a certain approach he takes in some of his acoustic stuff that's just a little too smooth for me.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 7 June 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link
I'll have to re-listen to those tracks and see if I can spot what you're saying, I'd be interested to compare it with some of his other acoustic numbers and pick out the differences.
god, I've never listened to the Massey Hall set in full, although I've listened to bits on Spotify. People seem to go crazy for it, but never actually sat down and listened to it through yet...I should do that tomorrow.
― arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Friday, 7 June 2013 23:46 (ten years ago) link
It's been a long time since I listened to Comes a Time in its entirety. "Comes a Time" and "Look Out for My Love" stayed with me--love both--the rest I only remember dimly. Except "Motorcycle Mama," which I really hated.
― clemenza, Friday, 7 June 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
"goin back" and "already one" are songs that really stood out the last time i played it.
― tylerw, Saturday, 8 June 2013 02:12 (ten years ago) link
Comes a Time is easy to underrate, considering what's before and directly after.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 June 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link
yeah, i might rate it as his least essential 70s album, but it is still totally essential.
― tylerw, Saturday, 8 June 2013 02:17 (ten years ago) link
well, AS&B is his least essential.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 June 2013 02:23 (ten years ago) link
sometime i'm going to have to listen to side a of American Stars and side b of Hawks and Doves back to back.
― da croupier, Saturday, 8 June 2013 02:42 (ten years ago) link
though side a of Hawks & Doves followed by side b of American Stars would obviously be a cooler album
― da croupier, Saturday, 8 June 2013 02:44 (ten years ago) link