52 mins is A++++ would dance to this all the time
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 07:16 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry to be dumm but wheres the link for that mix?
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Monday, 16 February 2009 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link
The Crazy Cousinz track at 56 mins is dope too
http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/2009/01/marcus-nasty-21st-january.html
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 07:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Rev, that's "Inflation", AKA my track of the year!
― Tim F, Monday, 16 February 2009 07:55 (fifteen years ago) link
thank u!
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 08:24 (fifteen years ago) link
ah, I see... it is the b-side of "Funky Anthem" (which is so-so not their best work imo)
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 08:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah "Funky Anthem" is pretty average. If I ever see that 12inch though I'm picking it up for "Inflation".
― Tim F, Monday, 16 February 2009 08:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Some more youtubery on this thread
― Mirror-spangled elephant head (J@cob), Monday, 16 February 2009 09:21 (fifteen years ago) link
lots of these tunes (inc 'inflation' and 'our father') are available to buy from ukfunky.com btw
― lex pretend, Monday, 16 February 2009 09:41 (fifteen years ago) link
outside of the uk?
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Monday, 16 February 2009 09:55 (fifteen years ago) link
oh i don't know if it works outside the uk - it's via paypal so i thought it would. will reup tonight if tim hasn't...
btw crazy cousinz rmx of shontelle. omg pianos! http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yyvo1my0ott
― lex pretend, Monday, 16 February 2009 10:51 (fifteen years ago) link
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4620/backoc5.jpg
Tracklist:N10-Tainment feat Ruth - I Pray (FaZe Special)Footsteps - Baby KintaPrincess ft Coldsteps - Frontline RemixDJ NG - Tell Me (Geeneus Remix)DBC - PromisesDBC - Promises (Roska Remix)Lil Silva - SeasonsFuzzy Logic ft Egypt - In The MorningRoska - Whats In Your HandbagKIG - Head Sholders Knees & Toes (Donaeo Remix)Suges Vs Swift Jay - TribeColdsteps ft Princess - I Will Be ThereDj Gregory - Dont PanicMarz Music ft Kadisha - FreeLemar - If She Knew (Crazy Cousinz Mix)Major Notes ft Steelo (Skream Out)Restless Soul - Tricks (Faeda Remix)Delinquent - I Got U (Delio D Cruz Super Funky Mix)Diamond ft Terri Walker - Love At First SightTribal Audio - AbyssTawiah - Everystep (Arms Remix)Roska - Our FatherM Sadler - Shine For MeYotam Avni - Get TogetherDoctor - Give It To You (Soultonic Soundsystem Mix)Fuzzy Logic ft LA - Call MeWookie - FinallyThe Sunburst Band - Journey To The Sun (Dennis Ferrer Mix)Teedra Moses - Be Your Girl (Faeda Soulful Mix)AC Layne ft Charlene Dance - Deja VuDj Sekey - Ride The Database (Chillzone Mix)
Download:
Zip File (Seperate Tracks)rapidshare: http://rapidshare.com/files/197742403/FaZe_-_Funky_February_09.zipsendspace: http://www.sendspace.com/file/lqxvddzShare: http://www.zshare.net/download/55582475312d0614/
Single File:zShare Stream: http://www.zshare.net/audio/5557763227d97caf/
― faze01, Monday, 16 February 2009 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link
THANK U THANK U <3 <3 <3
― I would much rather listen to hard bop jazz and stfu (The Reverend), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Thanks for that FaZe! It's nice to be able to ID the Suges vs Swift Jay track - would never have guessed that Suges were involved (then again I don't know what the original sounds like) but in retrospect it kinda makes sense. I always thought that tune sounded a bit like a Low Deep grime instrumental.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 09:45 (fifteen years ago) link
From the Marcus Nasty set Jan 15th, what the f&*k is that MAW/Omni Trio-esque tune with the pianos at 22:38secs!!!???
― Martinclark, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link
KIG - Head Sholders Knees & Toes (Donaeo Remix)
^ this is teh nuts. (might forgive him farmer yardie at this rate.) also the new lowslung muttered verse is exactly why i keep saying flowdan should switch to funky. even the crap one from tok would do!
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Farmer Yardie was great though.
― Bernard's Butler (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link
haha check out who joined donaeo on stage for 'african warrior'
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
:-O
Also that makes "African Warrior" and "My Philosophy" sound like the same genre.
"^ this is teh nuts. (might forgive him farmer yardie at this rate.) also the new lowslung muttered verse is exactly why i keep saying flowdan should switch to funky. even the crap one from tok would do!"
Yeah I love this, and I like how Donaeo just sucks up pre-exisitng tunes and makes them his own. Flo Dan totally should be a funky MC though - he always sounds best talking shit over fast beats. Stop fucking with The Bug, Dan, and get on this.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link
^^cosine - also that big latinate remix of princess nyah. really feeling the track that opens it too - more xylophones! love its abstract moodiness. and tawiah into 'our father' is such a great transition.
surprised there hasn't been much lil silva talk here yet, 'seasons' and 'funky flex' are both massive...
also ALSO: crazy cousinz and hard house banton are playing wifey on friday and i am definitely reaching...
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link
http://profile.ak.facebook.com/object3/253/3/n46748313035_1475.jpg
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah Lil' Silva is great, I think I talked about "Seasons" is one of my overviews last year. My only complaint is that he's the producer that lots of funky house sceptics check for in order to legitimise their sweeping dismissals of the rest of the genre, presumably because "Seasons" is the archetypal (grime)-funky tune. But this is not his fault and it's an amazing track either way (also approaching "Yellowtail" levels of deserving ubiquity at this stage).
― Tim F, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link
don't know the ID but its a remix of / shares the sample with Hi Times - Journey Into Jazz, which is phenomenal
― Benjamin, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link
yeha wifey sounds sick this week but it clashes with prosumer/maurice fulton at east village. plus every time i go some sort of uk dance ting i attempt to blend in by wearing a new era hat and look like a tool.
― straightola, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 10:51 (fifteen years ago) link
i found an mp3 of that amazing n10-tainment track on the faze mix http://www.zshare.net/audio/547459512b656c83/
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:03 (fifteen years ago) link
re: 'seasons' and grime-funkiness - i see where you're coming from but i think it's so much more obviously melodic, and with more of that steelpanny carnival vibe, than 'yellowtail'. also it feels like it's always on the verge of turning into '4 minutes' (and wow, imagine a funky remix of that beat)
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah can I stress that it's a fabulous track! My beef is purely contextual (as is the "yellowtail" comparison - but also remember "yellowtail" is a really fun bumping tune - the bass drop!).
Mak 10's "Sequence" - now there's a crappy "hard" effort.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
don't think i've heard that...
cooly g's "mwah mwah mwah": best producer stamp ever?
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.illestlyrics.com/wp-content/uploads/jadakiss3.jpg
nah.
― lol laocoon (r|t|c), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
kode9's new funky stuff
http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=HYP009
― jon b (bass), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link
The reservations I have about "Black Sun" and "Gone 2 Far" are fairly similar to those I have about "Sequence", though they're better tracks: sure the rhythm programming is nice enough and the synth chords are impressively discordant but... it's not very funky is it? The groove doesn't really build at all, on either track, it just sort of assaults you repetitively. Compare/contrast with "Inflation" which doesn't hold itself out as groundbreaking but is all about the build, the sense of excitement of the ratatat snares glancing off the string slashes, the point when the booming bass finally comes in, then the xylophone. Whereas Kode9 seems to like making tracks that hover in stasis, suspended, sort of wavering in glowering confusion. This isn't a bad thing per se but it seems to me to depart from the core value of UK funky's approach to its groove (and its basis in house), which is I think very much about hype-building, trying to work a sense of narrative development into a relatively repetitive groove-framework. People like Roska and Apple do this less so than others (whereas Crazy Couzins, perhaps owing to their songfulness, are at the absolute extreme - all their tracks and remixes have multiple sections, builds, breakdowns etc.; Fuzzy Logic is another producer big into narrative development), but even with them there's more of this than on these Kode9 tracks - plus listening to most Roska or Apple tracks in full you start to realise how DJ/MC toolsy they are, best suited to appearing for 2 minutes in a mix with an MC on top rather than played out in corpulent seven minute glory. Whereas with these Kode9 tracks (and even more so "Sequence") it takes about thirty seconds to start wondering what the point of this continuing is.
Maybe this is why the hip hop parts of Memories of the Future are far and away my favourite Kode 9 productions: Spaceape provides the sense of "build" around which Kode 9 can then do his superlative creepy sound design thing.
Marcus Nasty on his most recent show apologised to Ramadanman for not being able to download his new funky tracks in time to play them. Based on "Blimey" and (the also amazing, headwrecking) "Revenue" I wouldn't be surprised if his funky tracks are strong; I think his approach to groove is already closer to the underlying approach of funky. "Revenue" sounds a bit like Aphrodisiax actually.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Kode9 seems to like making tracks that hover in stasis, suspended, sort of wavering in glowering confusion
a very satisfying description! very much so for Black Sun
i don't actually enjoy the tunes that much (as in i would probably be a bit bored on a dancefloor), but i guess that's not really the point for his stuff, and fair play. i'm glad he's drawn from a new set of influences and made a shift in terms of tempo and beats, but retained his individuality, vibe and vision. but you're right, as a result it feels a long long way from the heart of uk funky
interesting in terms of the discussion of his approach to narrative is to contrast his Reminnissin remix. in fact i think to be fair he mixes it up a lot between tracks in that regard... Konfusion, Magnetic City, Stung etc all involve pretty slow burning but intense narrative development (still glowering though!). there is though a sense in which you could almost say they evoke stasis in motion in some sense, an evolving closed circuit, wheras the likes of Fuzzy Logik or Crazy Cousinz evolve in a much more fluid and absolute way
as you point to, one of the things i find amazing about Crazy Cousinz is the amount of progression and build they can get into their vocal tracks without you really even noticing... they can feel like traditionally structured pop songs but in fact they swell and lift and break in pretty epic ways
― Benjamin, Thursday, 19 February 2009 11:59 (fifteen years ago) link
tbh despite the funkyesque rhythm i can't really think of those kode9 tracks as "funky" per se at all, and labelling them as such does both kode9 and UK funky a disservice - they seem to fit quite neatly into what joker, ikonika et al are doing right now though.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:05 (fifteen years ago) link
To be fair, I've heard Kode9 play 'Black Sun' in a straight funky set and it was totally danceable, fitted in fine but obviously sounded a bit alien. The second drop in particular went off.
― jon b (bass), Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:32 (fifteen years ago) link
i like to think that roska's 'in your handbag' is a sly nod to the halcyon days of handbag house
― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 February 2009 13:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I think Lex is OTM here. “Black Sun," for example, is really something like one part dubstep, one part funky, and one part wonky. I am excited at the prospect of Ramadanman doing funky tracks however.
― Brian C, Thursday, 19 February 2009 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link
bit too late to avoid the hail of old dubstep chestnuts coming down, but i think the secret of 'in the morning' is, in its very fine balance, how well it plays off all the sides it concerns. in a funky mix it stands out a mile, like an outside tune the scene's co-opted, but in pop radio terms it retains just enough spare trackyness and circularity, and therefore dance cache, to stand out in that context too; any further into fully-formed songcraft and we'd be talking about one of those retro 80s wonky jobs like alphabeat or something. CHOON.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 19 February 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link
also i think i have come to love the overlooked bit in 'inflation' where it goes full-on gloria estefan most of all.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 19 February 2009 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link
what the melody right at the end? isn't that just them playing their "cray-zee cousinz" stamp" on a xylophone?
― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 February 2009 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/deck?track=FUNKYANTHEM-c
thanks to the magnificent chemical records web deck thingy i can now say "oh yeah, so it is". but still, it's a good payoff in its own context.
(... seriously, that thing is great!! well done to all @ chemical for authentically replicating the tedious and depressing mental journey you travel on watching a label go round as you sift thru a bunch of new records in a shop.)
incidentally when i looked at the cousinz myspace just now it said they were playing luton on friday. i suppose they could do wifey as well but...
― r|t|c, Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link
haha, look where they're playing next friday. horrific.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link
"bit too late to avoid the hail of old dubstep chestnuts coming down, but i think the secret of 'in the morning' is, in its very fine balance, how well it plays off all the sides it concerns. in a funky mix it stands out a mile, like an outside tune the scene's co-opted, but in pop radio terms it retains just enough spare trackyness and circularity, and therefore dance cache, to stand out in that context too; any further into fully-formed songcraft and we'd be talking about one of those retro 80s wonky jobs like alphabeat or something. CHOON."
Yes. It's pretty amazing. I think this tune is much more pop than "Do You Mind" to be honest, but the beat is so sharp. I was in love from the first "Wooh!"
Re Kode9 - interestingly the tracks that Ben mentioned (the "Reminiscin" remix, "Magnetic City" etc.) are all my favourite Kode9 tracks. He works best when he's got a bit of lightness of touch I think, and goes mysterious rather than out'n'out oppressive dystopian. Otherwise he can come across a bit heavy-handed - a lot of his "big statement" tracks fall into that category (e.g. "Spit", "Ghost Town").
― Tim F, Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link
hey can some1 hook me up w/ a copy of 'inflation'?? is there a good place to buy (cheaply) these mpeg layer 3's?
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I've only got it in mixes at the moment.
ukfunky.com is selling "Inflation" as an MP3 via paypal. As soon as I get paid again from pitchfork (as that's how they pay me anyways) I plan to lay down some soft cash.
― Tim F, Friday, 20 February 2009 01:51 (fifteen years ago) link
yeh In The Morning i think is much much more chart-friendly than Do You Mind, the crispness and brightness of production alone give it so much more of a chance. r|t|c on the mark though, it is totally out there in both contexts
Inflation is also available at dubplate.net for one small english pound :)
― Benjamin, Friday, 20 February 2009 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link
swines! ukfunky charges 2. how much more funky stuff is on dublate, just big tunes? 2 for an mp3 is a jack
― straightola, Friday, 20 February 2009 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link
yeh 2 is a lot but i don't mind cos of how close to the producers ukfunky is
dubplate has got quite a lot of stuff up
― Benjamin, Friday, 20 February 2009 11:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I've heard bad things about buying mp3s from dubplate.net. A mate bought loads of stuff from there, it took days to be delivered to his inbox (someone is actually sitting there zipping up mp3s for each individual order it seems!) and half of the mp3s that eventually turned up were just the short samples that stream on the site - beware!
― all my single lobsters put a ring on it (tpp), Friday, 20 February 2009 11:47 (fifteen years ago) link
yeh i heard that stuff too, but when i bought some recently it worked like a totally professional download site, the links appeared on the right of the webpage which i could download from directly. don't know if ppl are still having problems but seems worth stating my experiences to balance
― Benjamin, Friday, 20 February 2009 12:12 (fifteen years ago) link
ive still never been able to find 'lift me up' anywhere :( is it @ ukfunky.com? that site is hard to navigate
lol im expecting some international music writing money to hit the paypal soon too, fraid its gonna end up in the same place
― gucci mane gretzky (deej), Friday, 20 February 2009 12:20 (fifteen years ago) link