No but now I'm looking forward to it!
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 30 May 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
sisko is really bland compared to dukat, weyoun, garak. You can see Avery brooks really come to life on the few outings where they do something different than just "constantly irritated bureaucrat."
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link
what i can't even
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link
Sisko is not bland that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
That said, Dukat, Weyoun, and Garak are fucking amazing.
I've enthused about the DS9 relaunch novels before on this thread, but they provide some great insight into Garak's character that is making our rewatch of the series even more delightful.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
Dukat is just such a perfect balance of charming, smarmy, and utter sociopath.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:26 (ten years ago) link
that time sisko went undercover as a Klingon, there was this look in the actor's eyes like "finally I get to do something fun!"there's a line later where he goes "I'll miss those fangs" -- I think that's brooks talking, not just sisko
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
smdh
― carl agatha, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
Andrew Robinson is a brilliant character actor, Garak is awesome.
but yeah. I don't even understand *how* Sisko is bland. I'm confused over what you could possibly want from that character that Avery Brooks does not bring.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
If I had the time and skill and wherewithal, I would make a supercut of Avery Brooks' more astounding moments of scenery chewing and general weirdness re: his delivery of certain lines (one in particular is in an, I think, mirror universe episode (or as we like to call them Kira Wears a Headband episodes) where he changes command codes and when MirrorKira finds out, he throws up his hands and says, "Ha HA! I changed it!" in a way that defies description) and I would probably watch it like, every day.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
One interesting thing they could have done was make him less duty-bound.Like have him more actively rebel against obligations to star fleet and being a messiah.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link
"In the Pale Moonlight"
― carl agatha, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link
Mirror sisko was great but that just underlines how regular sisko is a bland anchor character
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link
Quark is kind of vexing, he's sort of played for the usual scoundrel lols but then it's like 'hi your work for hire dancer contract stipulates you must also fuck me' which is kind of like, oh i see he's a total piece of shit?
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link
he gets more interesting throughout the series imo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link
He's plenty interesting! After that episode though I'm just reading him as more 'total reprehensible scumbag' than 'waggish ne'er do well'.
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
I liked in the pale moonlight but it's garak who gets to do the scarface "you need me to be the bad guy" speech. He's practically rubbing the constraints of the sisko character in his face.
It might have also been interesting to follow the slippery ethics of wartime sisko to some kind of psychologically rending conclusion over an arc (like they do with dukat) but he's basically cool with it by end of episode.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link
Nunez, you are straight-up crazy, Sisko is just barely below Picard's level on excitable scenery-chewing
― Nhex, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link
He has a really good character arc. That's another reason to stick with the show.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 30 May 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link
most definitely
― Nhex, Thursday, 30 May 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
fyi this is my keyring
It's kinda beat up now, the NEVER PLACE FRIENDSHIP ABOVE PROFIT used to be legible
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp201/sharonjoy666/70E50083-2E6F-4F71-8044-1CB6E6B639BF-123-000000024A514DB0_zpsc22c2bbe.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link
i also have a click-pen that shows you a different Rule of Acquisition every time you click it :D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link
nice!
― Nhex, Thursday, 30 May 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link
http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA1LzMwL2NmL3NpcnBhdHJpY2tzLjc1ZDllLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTk1MHg1MzQjCmUJanBn/8db0ed13/344/sir-patrick-stewart-pizza.jpg
― herr doktor (askance johnson), Thursday, 30 May 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
http://lemonsweetie.tumblr.com/post/51652237280/let-me-tell-you-a-thing-about-an-amazing-man
― carl agatha, Thursday, 30 May 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link
DS9 was my jam when I was 14 and this thread got me nostalgic and I'm 5 minutes into S1E1 and OMG you're right about SIsko, its like english is his 2nd language and the intonations h'es using are perfectly normal in his language but in english its the worst. Just the way he says "Acknowledged" in that first scene . . .
― Random .mdb Memories (NotEnough), Thursday, 30 May 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
imma FP the next person who throws shade at Sisko
FOR REAL
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link
sisko's the only thing i remember liking from any of the DS9 episodes i watched.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link
odo is awesome c'mon
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_NQnac8Abk
― go cray cray on my lobster soufflé (snoball), Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
BOO YA
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link
I just learned what John de Lancie (Q) is up to these days:
Discord is the former ruler of Equestria, and the main antagonist of The Return of Harmony Part 1 and part 2. Once Discord escapes from his stone prison, Twilight Sparkle and her friends must act quickly to summon the Elements of Harmony in order to stop him. He is a representation of the disharmony of pony kind.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
(spoilers for a Maquis episode but this scene is great)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS4L8owZinw
― go cray cray on my lobster soufflé (snoball), Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link
xp yeah he voices the villain in My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. Also he voices the father of the Desmond, the protagonist of the videogame series Assassin's Creed.
― go cray cray on my lobster soufflé (snoball), Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
'the Desmond' lol I spekes Engerlish well good...
― go cray cray on my lobster soufflé (snoball), Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
Those are good Sisko clips! The face he makes after he pops Q is the kind of weird acting flourish I have been talking about.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
i love how he's a total peace & love hippie irl, it's kinda funny in contrast with the clipped brooding captainyness of sisko
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link
avery brooks I mean, not Q
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link
Hey you know that Jeff and I will be seeing Mr. Brooks on Sunday. And Patrick Stewart on Saturday. La di da
― carl agatha, Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
Duuuurh, don't know how I managed to miss it before but this show now makes a lot more sense when I realised that different races = DIFFERENT RACES
― Random .mdb Memories (NotEnough), Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link
xpost omg u guys!! how exciting!!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
Jesus, this show is significantly weirder than I remember. Siske negotiating with his memories in the wormhole is some budget Lynchian shit.
― Random .mdb Memories (NotEnough), Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link
I generally like mannerist performances/disjunctive effects in all kinds of things so I expect once I get over the bends I will be a big Brooks/Sisko fan.
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link
When he shows up with a goatee you're almost there, and when he shaves his head you will have arrived at your destination.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link
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― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
Wait how big is this click pen -- are t there like 100 rules?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:11 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmXzamLDgFk
This is totally Avery Brooks coming through in the character. This was in the last episode before the final 9 episode story arc. Perfect setup.
― Jeff, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:36 (ten years ago) link
xpost lol no not all of them, I think it has like 6 or 7 of them
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link
i have totally blanked on that "he's just a man!" clip, how i could forget the Sisko rage
― Nhex, Saturday, 1 June 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link
He was the original Barack Obama - after Sisko, the way had already been paved.
― Call the Cops, Sunday, 2 June 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
ebert being inattentive to that pleasure in a positive review is frankly a black mark, but he earns back my goodwill in the nemesis review where he says "life is too short to sit through 10 movies in which the power is shifted around on these shields".
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, May 11, 2011 1:33 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Agreed, this is great:
I've also had it with the force shield that protects the Enterprise. The power on this thing is always going down. In movie after movie after movie I have to sit through sequences during which the captain is tersely informed that the front shield is down to 60 percent, or the back shield is down to 10 percent, or the side shield is leaking energy, and the captain tersely orders that power be shifted from the back to the sides or all put in the front, or whatever, and I'm thinking, life is too short to sit through 10 movies in which the power is shifted around on these shields. The shields have been losing power for decades now, and here it is the Second Generation of Star Trek, and they still haven't fixed them. Maybe they should get new batteries.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 2 June 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link