ILX'S 100 GREATEST VIDEO GAMES EVER

Planescape: Torment, Arcanum, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines (at least for the first 3/4ths of the game), and Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas all have interesting quest solutions for characters with strong speech skills.

Think we might almost be getting close to it being okay to re-do this. Maybe in another year or two. Dom's ''each person gets one nom per decade'' really squeezed out some faves to the point where we had to have a secondary poll of flagrantly overlooked games (e.g. SFII). On the other hand, plenty of beloved cult-favorite stuff DID get nommed but still got no votes so maybe it was fine...

dom haunts us from beyond the grave

That list needs more Castlevania and Mega Man games.

Thanks for the recommendations, One Way Street! I've previously read positive comments on Planescape: Torment and Arcanum, but I'm not sure if I can handle the isometric (is that the correct word?) graphics and old-school RPG gameplay... Maybe I'll try them one day, though. As for Vampire the Masquerade, I'm kinda averse to vampire stuff in general, and the VtM franchise in particular, so I'm not sure I want to play that one.

So yeah, I'd still love to hear recommendations on newer (i.e. ones with 3D graphics) fantasy RPGs where fighting is not the only option.

Action adventure game (a la Zelda or Psychonauts) recommendations are welcome too.

i think we're due to redo this poll.
anybody wanna drive?

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If C+P doesn't destroy me, this is something i might be willing to do in ~6 months. if there's interest.

I'd endorse that, it's been a reasonably long time and it might be interesting to see how things roll witha different nom system/ballot size. I'd vote, for sure, with the caveat that I haven't *played* that many additional games since 2008!

yesssssssss

I'd be down. I'd almost prefer, though, to see the results as applied to just this century. The older results seem fairly predictable and are likely to just show up again in a slightly different order.

I dunno, I could see them being different. The weird "balanced decade" ballot meant that a lot of much-beloved older things were actually not eligible. OTOH this probably gave rise to some of the most interesting quirks (aka British games I'd never heard of before). There's also the factor of ILX membership turnover and some generational shifting. Still, I get where you're coming from - the 'canon' is more set for the 80s and 90s.

gtfo with separate super mario entries but "championship manager series" "pro evolution series" imo

Yeah, no idea how I'd handle that if I were pollrunner though, like clearly a vote for SM64 is not the same as a vote for Super Mario Bros. The funny thing is you'd think it would lead to vote-splitting but then like EVERY Mario game placed! I guess I'd like to see no consolidations of series, but lots of horse-trading and backroom deals in the voting thread as fans of the hundreds of low-res Hop To It, Cricket Boy! games decide which one to vote for.

yesssssssss

― difficult listening hour, lundi 26 janvier 2015 21:42 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Re: lumping series, I'm happy to go with whatever seems liek the popular option. Personally I'd say case-by-case and determined during the nominations.

Honestly don't see how lumping ~5-10 completely discrete games released over 30 years makes as much sense to you as ~20 games released annually with incremental changes, but if you wanna vote-split CM97 vs CM03 vs FM08 vs etc etc etc into oblivion I guess it's yr life.

Like, a non-franchise poll would be cool. Nothing that has more than maybe one sequel or spin-off.

I mean, we all know that everybody likes Mario and stealing cars in various cities.

I think by decade would be better.

Also, I'd love to see a mobile games poll. Thinking just iOS/Android/etc.

I'd be willing to drive this one i think

maybe put it on ILE for maximum exposure

i think this thread is on ile, and yeah i def agree -- the more the merrier with the big ones!

Decades is a pretty interesting idea. Wonder if making several separate ballots would intimidate some people out of playing along, or alternately encourage participation in certain decades by people who otherwise wouldn't bother.

Decades seems like a weird way to split it, at least to me. I kinda prefer generations? (I did a PS2 poll some time ago, I should've included Xbox...)

generations is ideal for console games i think

(but)

This was a really bizarre list. No fighting games either, which is kind of understandable because they usually tend to blur into series rather than stand on their own.

Everyone thought someone else was going to burn their one '90s pick on Street Fighter II, but it turned out there were a lot of good games made in the 1990s.

Symphony of the Night for one.

somebody start a nomination thread for video games of the 80's plz

I still like generations -- question is, would we start at 1? 2? (3 is where everyone's a renaissance person i think, probably a lot more response on best NES vs best Atari 2600)

(and all 80s = good luck atari 2600)

How do arcade and personal computer games fit in though?

i reckon i might well be the biggest Football Manager saddo left on this board and no fucken way am i distinguishing one year from another, bundle or die imo

also if we do this again maybe my ballot won't get disappeared

is ILX still british enough for lords of midnight to place

important questions 2015

The handhelds hold roughly similar generations as well (DS vs PSP, 3DS vs Vita). The problem of course is that the PC doesn't really care - so where does a game released before the last PS3 title but after the first PS4 count? And that's not counting staggered console release dates.

Hmm maybe decades is just the best way to do it then. Until '89, 90-99, 00-09?

or make best-computer-games its own category? 1/2gen, 3,gen, 4gen, ... & computer games

I like mixing everything together but I'll go with whatever

I understand that this would probably be a totally separate thing, but it'd also be cool to see a poll by genre.

I really see no reason to segregate computer games off in their own space, just reduces turnout in every poll as people may not feel they have enough of a stake to throw in on any given individual poll. Plus, a lot of work for the poll-runner etc.

If they need to be broken down, decades makes more sense - you'll catch people who were gaming a lot at a certain moment in time, regardless of how they split their time between arcade/console/computers. Plus, then the results feel more like a comparison among peers, which could be more interesting - - - ranking Zelda vs. Mario 3 is meaningful in a way that ranking Asteroids vs. Half-Life 2 might not be.

however we do it can we have a lot of votes on our ballots? esp for games i'm gonna be bummed if i only get like 25 spots.

just throw everything together, if the kids can't deal with the fact that games were better back in my day then fuck em

This was a really bizarre list. No fighting games either, which is kind of understandable because they usually tend to blur into series rather than stand on their own.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, January 26, 2015 7:36 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Everyone thought someone else was going to burn their one '90s pick on Street Fighter II, but it turned out there were a lot of good games made in the 1990s.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, January 26, 2015 7:50 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Unforgivable!

No offense to Rygar, but there is no way it would have made it on my ballot had Street Fighter 2, any Sim City, DOOM, or Ms. Pac-Man been available.

for kicks heres another thing we did

ILX TOP PS2 GAMES POLL RESULTS (116 - 86)
ILX TOP PS2 GAMES POLL RESULTS (85-51)
ILX TOP PS2 GAMES POLL RESULTS (48-21)
ILX TOP PS2 GAMES POLL RESULTS (20-1)

I love that it went :

100-7. other games
6. Team Ico game
5. Katamari game
4. GTA game
3. GTA game
2. Katamari game
1. Team Ico game

And their combined scores wouldve been
3. GTA games, 280 (incl. gta3)
2. Katamari games, 294
1. Team Ico games, 303

yr hivemind @ work

old hivemind though tbh, i dunno if overwhelming lasting love for GTA, Katamari or Team Ico still exists universally on this board

hmm maybe, in the context of ps2 i can't imagine they'd move far from the top...

dang it yall, i am seriously considering running an X360+PS3+Wii "seventh generation" ILX poll just so i can think more and talk more about mgs4. i'm reviving this thread because the conversation kinda died, but i like games and rankings and shit.

i'm also into running previous gens polls too...
6: ps2/xbox/dreamcast/gamecube, even though we did ps2 already it'd be worth a redo including the xbox and gc and especially the DC
5: ps1/n64/saturn/jaguar?/3do?
4: snes/genesis/neo geo/tg16 (this one would be v popular... did we ever do this?)
3: nes/master system/7800?

the original issue with the generation method is that it became murky when to include PC games. easy fix: no pc games. we could do a separate thing for pc games at some point.

an october rollout for one of these would be pretty fun, what is up ILX can we do it?!